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Ok just had a night out on the town.

Questions:

Is it immoral to be a dancer in lap dancing club?
Is it immoral tol be a waitress or waiter or doorman for a lap dancing club?
Is it immoral to be a punter in a lap dancing club?

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I thought this'n weird, that a self-professed "Christian" would enter a forum called "Right and Wrong", and deem it perfectly "right" to insult folks.

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Mean ol' Megaboomer wrote: all that i am saying is that there is a moral law that is given and that going to strip clubs is immoral any non- christian with morals and intellegence would agree.
And my "intellegence" is questioned.

So I ask for an apology for the clear insult...
Poor ol' picked on joey wrote: I object to your questioning my intelligence because I disagree.

Does your religious training require you insult all those with whom you disagree?
And what is the response from this "Christian"?
Mean ol' Megaboomer wrote: well that's a whole another discussion in itself because you would have to have a basis on some word of God yourself in order to judge my words.
Now nobody ever confused me with a tree surgeon, but I'm just not thinking this is an apology, so I figure I'll giv'er another go...
Poor ol' picked on joey wrote: So, you'd rather continue the insult than chalk it up to miscommunication?
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All I was asking for was an apology for a slip of the tongue, or a miscommunication. If you're unwilling to reach my outstretched hand I will withdraw it to the safety of my person.
And ya gotta think, well surely the guy is willing to apologize for a miscommunication, it happens all the time, right?
Mean ol' Megabomber wrote: I’m just saying that a whole lot of people that are seen as intelligent agree.
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wow, i must have really hurt your feelings i thought you didn't belive in decency, i apologize

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how do you define decency?
joeyknuccione wrote:I consider it a subjective term, open to personal whim. I consider it most decent that folks are allowed as much freedom of expression as possible.
---i thought you where just saying you don't care about it but i guess i was wrong.

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---(john 3:16) - For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
(romans 3:10) - As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one
--- but thankfully he promises to make us better people.
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Megaboomer wrote:wow, i must have really hurt your feelings i thought you didn't belive in decency, i apologize
Your following post notwithstanding, my "belief" in decency isn't the point, but your considering folks immoral or unintelligent simply because they disagree with you.

That said, I have NEVER even indicated I don't "believe" in decency, but I did say it is a relative term and folks will have different standards.

This is the problem I have with so many Christians - anyone they don't agree with is demonized, considered immoral, lacking in intelligence, and now thought to disbelieve (read lack) decency.

It is my contention this is the product of a belief system that has at its core an animosity, and potentially a downright hatred for anything that goes against their sacred beliefs.

Notice here Megaboomer makes a leap of illogic from my statement regarding decency. It is my contention these sorts of great leaps are a must in a religious belief system that can't be shown to be true. Further, these leaps (and how funny is it my "intellegence" would be questioned) condition the adherent to make these sorts of illogical, irrational, and unfounded jumps in reasoning to such an extent they are no longer able to recognize when they do so.

I feel confident the observer will see that Megaboomer is incapable of understanding what this debate is about, in that he still doesn't seem to understand why questioning one's intellegence is insulting.

I've had my morality questioned, my "intellegence", and now it's questioned whether I "believe" in decency.

Sometimes I feel sad for Christians.

I'll leave the thread until someone with some common courtesy comes along.
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joeyknuccione wrote:That said, I have NEVER even indicated I don't "believe" in decency, but I did say it is a relative term and folks will have different standards.
---that's not true though, the definition of decency in the English language refers to decency as modesty and modesty as not displaying ones body. therefore it is just ones denial or rebellion of moral values to say that it is perfectly decent to show your body publicly. now if you want to debate whether decency should be valid that's fine but i think it's you who have lost what this debate is about. even if decency was relative, history shows that religious people all have agreed on this modesty issue along with sexual purity and really it's only those that think that they want to define what is decent now that disagree. and it's a very small group indeed. (atheists) - around 8%, (the rest of the world) 92%

---as it stands right now moral standards don't support pornography or anything of the sort.
---and if you disagree with the definition of decency as it's stands today then you don't believe in decency or you want to make up your own decency, but i don't see your definition in the dictionary.

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