Is there a word for when one creature convinces another creature to not do something in its evolutionary interest?
Like when a cuckoo bird takes over a nest and the other bird feeds it thinking it is feeding its children?
Or more to my point, if I can convince someone they are gay or should not have children because of the planet or there is no God - what would be the word for that?
evolutionary attack
Moderator: Moderators
- Wootah
- Savant
- Posts: 9264
- Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:16 am
- Has thanked: 194 times
- Been thanked: 108 times
evolutionary attack
Post #1
Last edited by Wootah on Thu Aug 18, 2022 7:11 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Proverbs 18:17 The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.
Member Notes: viewtopic.php?t=33826
"Why is everyone so quick to reason God might be petty. Now that is creating God in our own image ."
Member Notes: viewtopic.php?t=33826
"Why is everyone so quick to reason God might be petty. Now that is creating God in our own image ."
- JoeyKnothead
- Banned
- Posts: 20879
- Joined: Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:59 am
- Location: Here
- Has thanked: 4093 times
- Been thanked: 2572 times
Re: evolutionary attack
Post #61This even counts for hand sanitizers. Pre-covid we were warned about overuse.Difflugia wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 8:34 amI take them when I have something bacterial that needs antibiotics, but I'm careful about taking them correctly. I also don't use topical antibiotics unless the wound actually appears infected and then I use them until the wound is healed. Yes, because of the superbug thing.
I might be Teddy Roosevelt, but I ain't.
-Punkinhead Martin
-Punkinhead Martin
- Difflugia
- Prodigy
- Posts: 3085
- Joined: Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:25 am
- Location: Michigan
- Has thanked: 3347 times
- Been thanked: 2049 times
Re: evolutionary attack
Post #62And if you live in an area that chlorinates water, there are most likely chlorine-resistant bacteria living on your shower head.JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:15 amThis even counts for hand sanitizers. Pre-covid we were warned about overuse.
My pronouns are he, him, and his.
- Wootah
- Savant
- Posts: 9264
- Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:16 am
- Has thanked: 194 times
- Been thanked: 108 times
Re: evolutionary attack
Post #63So that seems like many people who do take antibiotics too often to me? Does it to you?Difflugia wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 8:34 amI take them when I have something bacterial that needs antibiotics, but I'm careful about taking them correctly. I also don't use topical antibiotics unless the wound actually appears infected and then I use them until the wound is healed. Yes, because of the superbug thing.
Proverbs 18:17 The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.
Member Notes: viewtopic.php?t=33826
"Why is everyone so quick to reason God might be petty. Now that is creating God in our own image ."
Member Notes: viewtopic.php?t=33826
"Why is everyone so quick to reason God might be petty. Now that is creating God in our own image ."
- Wootah
- Savant
- Posts: 9264
- Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:16 am
- Has thanked: 194 times
- Been thanked: 108 times
Re: evolutionary attack
Post #64[Replying to brunumb in post #60]
Yes that is my example. But you deny that example so what is an example?
Yes that is my example. But you deny that example so what is an example?
Proverbs 18:17 The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.
Member Notes: viewtopic.php?t=33826
"Why is everyone so quick to reason God might be petty. Now that is creating God in our own image ."
Member Notes: viewtopic.php?t=33826
"Why is everyone so quick to reason God might be petty. Now that is creating God in our own image ."
- Wootah
- Savant
- Posts: 9264
- Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:16 am
- Has thanked: 194 times
- Been thanked: 108 times
Re: evolutionary attack
Post #65I didn't bring up this tangent Joey.JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 6:56 amThe problem here is in attempting to meld the scientific - evolution - with the religious - "sin".
As an atheist, until someone can show me they know the mind of God, I have no need to attempt to justify my "sin".
This is kinda the problem the religious encounter when they fuss about "sin" - their complete and utter inability to show sin is anything other'n the upset some folks try to justify by declaring a god they can't show exists has an opinion they can't show he does.
"Evolutionary attack"?
This OP is an empty attack.
Proverbs 18:17 The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.
Member Notes: viewtopic.php?t=33826
"Why is everyone so quick to reason God might be petty. Now that is creating God in our own image ."
Member Notes: viewtopic.php?t=33826
"Why is everyone so quick to reason God might be petty. Now that is creating God in our own image ."
- Wootah
- Savant
- Posts: 9264
- Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:16 am
- Has thanked: 194 times
- Been thanked: 108 times
Re: evolutionary attack
Post #66But yes our children often pay the price for our crimes.Tcg wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 2:34 am Yep. All those nasty little babies God killed in the flood and in the Passover event and in the genocides and of course the poor little baby that sinned by being born as a result of David's adultery. He was such a bad little guy to be born as a result of David's lustful and eventually murderous action. And let's not forget he was a man after God's own heart. David that is, not the murdered baby. What a shining example of God's heart.
Oh, and by the way, I've never watched Die Hard or any other of those shoot and kill people flicks.
Tcg
Well, it's not too late. But not essential either.
Proverbs 18:17 The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.
Member Notes: viewtopic.php?t=33826
"Why is everyone so quick to reason God might be petty. Now that is creating God in our own image ."
Member Notes: viewtopic.php?t=33826
"Why is everyone so quick to reason God might be petty. Now that is creating God in our own image ."
- brunumb
- Savant
- Posts: 6002
- Joined: Thu Nov 02, 2017 4:20 am
- Location: Melbourne
- Has thanked: 6652 times
- Been thanked: 3222 times
Re: evolutionary attack
Post #67But if you go back and look I granted you that one, but asked you to support Ken Ham's many. It's your position so don't ask me to defend it for you.Wootah wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:17 pm [Replying to brunumb in post #60]
Yes that is my example. But you deny that example so what is an example?
George Orwell:: “The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it.”
Voltaire: "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."
Gender ideology is anti-science, anti truth.
Voltaire: "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."
Gender ideology is anti-science, anti truth.
- JoeyKnothead
- Banned
- Posts: 20879
- Joined: Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:59 am
- Location: Here
- Has thanked: 4093 times
- Been thanked: 2572 times
Re: evolutionary attack
Post #68If you'd ask why I find it pertinent, you might get a little bit closer to understanding why it's not a tangent.Wootah wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 11:38 pmI didn't bring up this tangent Joey.JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 6:56 amThe problem here is in attempting to meld the scientific - evolution - with the religious - "sin".
As an atheist, until someone can show me they know the mind of God, I have no need to attempt to justify my "sin".
This is kinda the problem the religious encounter when they fuss about "sin" - their complete and utter inability to show sin is anything other'n the upset some folks try to justify by declaring a god they can't show exists has an opinion they can't show he does.
"Evolutionary attack"?
This OP is an empty attack.
Instead, like so many theists on this site, you dismiss what you so obviously don't understand.
I might be Teddy Roosevelt, but I ain't.
-Punkinhead Martin
-Punkinhead Martin
- Wootah
- Savant
- Posts: 9264
- Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:16 am
- Has thanked: 194 times
- Been thanked: 108 times
Re: evolutionary attack
Post #69[Replying to JoeyKnothead in post #68]
Actually, if you stop being offended and look at the topic it is a very deep issue. Everyone is verbally pushing and pulling each other all the time and if you are not careful you will find yourself without a family or a future or even a penis these days if you listen to the wrong voices.
Actually, if you stop being offended and look at the topic it is a very deep issue. Everyone is verbally pushing and pulling each other all the time and if you are not careful you will find yourself without a family or a future or even a penis these days if you listen to the wrong voices.
Proverbs 18:17 The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.
Member Notes: viewtopic.php?t=33826
"Why is everyone so quick to reason God might be petty. Now that is creating God in our own image ."
Member Notes: viewtopic.php?t=33826
"Why is everyone so quick to reason God might be petty. Now that is creating God in our own image ."
- JoeyKnothead
- Banned
- Posts: 20879
- Joined: Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:59 am
- Location: Here
- Has thanked: 4093 times
- Been thanked: 2572 times
Re: evolutionary attack
Post #70You're the one carring on about trying to convince folks to be gay. I'd say You're offended by their mere existence.Wootah wrote: ↑Thu Aug 18, 2022 7:13 pm [Replying to JoeyKnothead in post #68]
Actually, if you stop being offended and look at the topic it is a very deep issue.
See.Everyone is verbally pushing and pulling each other all the time and if you are not careful you will find yourself without a family or a future or even a penis these days if you listen to the wrong voices.
I happen to hear voices that ain't there. I take meds.
Maybe you should find a doctor, and give up the potential Christian self hatred of homosexuality.
I might be Teddy Roosevelt, but I ain't.
-Punkinhead Martin
-Punkinhead Martin