Evolutionary Purpose of Morality

[Wootah]

I think I worked it out.

The evolution purpose of morality is to forget the evil we have done and do.

No one can cope with the horror show of biology and human history. We are all descended for murderers, etc.

So in response morality evolved to help with an illusion that we are the good guys.

Does anyone want to debate my notion on the evolution of morality?

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[Wootah]

[Replying to POI in post #50]

I think slavery is allowed in the Bible. I think God knows that we are all slaves to sin in the truest and deepest sense of the word and that the world is truly and deeply fallen awaiting the second coming.

So in that context, there is a 'time for everything' as Ecclesiastes says.

A proper understanding of slavery and since you own the topic on slavery as I now see, should lead a person to run to Jesus whose yoke is lightest.

But I think slavery is part of the fabric of reality. I think a proper understanding of God is that we see God as the ultimate slave.

[POI]

[Replying to POI in post #50]

I think slavery is allowed in the Bible.

You would be correct. But not just any slavery, but the kind the Bible allows or okays, which is humans owning other humans, as property, for life. In other words, forms of chattel slavery.

I think God knows that we are all slaves to sin in the truest and deepest sense of the word and that the world is truly and deeply fallen awaiting the second coming.

Hence, God sanctions the allowance of humans owning other humans as lifetime slave property?

So in that context, there is a 'time for everything'

To the OP, this is your own "morality" trying to rationalize what you know the Bible God actually condones To sleep better at night, you make such statements.

A proper understanding of slavery and since you own the topic on slavery as I now see, should lead a person to run to Jesus whose yoke is lightest.

But Jesus never expressed abolition for chattel slavery. Which means he's okay with it, just like his daddy. And the kicker here is... The New Testament, when speaking about humans owning other humans, never expresses abolition for such practices either. And since we know Jesus is the law maker, and Jesus has full ability to tell folks what is right and wrong, Jesus is a-okay with chattel slavery. And so, I can completely understand why you issue the responses you do... To apply 'morality' to help you sleep better at night.

But I think slavery is part of the fabric of reality. I think a proper understanding of God is that we see God as the ultimate slave.

Whatever helps you sleep better at night. If you follow my other thread, you will see why your own morality does not align with the Bible God, which means your own morality is deemed "evil", as you are not a-okay with chattel slavery, -- (but you should be).

[Wootah]

[Replying to POI in post #52]

And yet whom the son sets free is free indeed John 8:36.

[POI]

[Replying to Wootah in post #53]

This lack of any subtenant reply is quite revealing to the conclusion that you have no real response here. The conclusion is that your own 'morality' does not align with the Bible God, in that you do not believe chattel slavery is OK. A matter of fact, anyone who does not condone chattel slavery is apparently "morally evil."

[Wootah]

[Replying to POI in post #54]

God is the master. We are the chattel slaves.

I am being explicit.

You have a choice from Devil to God to choose your master. Gods yoke is lightest. But I don't believe you can choose to not be a slave. Pretend all you like of course.

I think chattel slave is redundant. All my words apply.

[POI]

[Replying to Wootah in post #55]

You didn't address my response, (again).

From the given dichotomy between (the Bible God vs. the devil), in which you present, since you choose the Bible God, this means you are required to deem humans owning other humans as property for life, as a-okay. But I know you don't actually believe such activities are truly 'moral'. Which means the Bible God deems you as 'evil'.

[Wootah]

[Replying to Wootah in post #55]

You didn't address my response, (again).

From the given dichotomy between (the Bible God vs. the devil), in which you present, since you choose the Bible God, this means you are required to deem humans owning other humans as property for life, as a-okay. But I know you don't actually believe such activities are truly 'moral'. Which means the Bible God deems you as 'evil'.

I need someone to explain that sorry.

[POI]

[Replying to Wootah in post #55]

You didn't address my response, (again).

From the given dichotomy between (the Bible God vs. the devil), in which you present, since you choose the Bible God, this means you are required to deem humans owning other humans as property for life, as a-okay. But I know you don't actually believe such activities are truly 'moral'. Which means the Bible God deems you as 'evil'.

I need someone to explain that sorry.

No problem. In your original post, you stated "So in response morality evolved to help with an illusion that we are the good guys". Since you have chosen the Bible God as our moral director, you are required to accept chattel slavery as good. Meaning, you are deemed one of the actual 'good guys' if you are OK with humans owning other humans as chattel slaves. But since you likely do not deem this action OK, this means you are instead deemed 'evil' by the Bible God. So now what?

[Wootah]

[Replying to Wootah in post #55]

You didn't address my response, (again).

From the given dichotomy between (the Bible God vs. the devil), in which you present, since you choose the Bible God, this means you are required to deem humans owning other humans as property for life, as a-okay. But I know you don't actually believe such activities are truly 'moral'. Which means the Bible God deems you as 'evil'.

I need someone to explain that sorry.

No problem. In your original post, you stated "So in response morality evolved to help with an illusion that we are the good guys". Since you have chosen the Bible God as our moral director, you are required to accept chattel slavery as good. Meaning, you are deemed one of the actual 'good guys' if you are OK with humans owning other humans as chattel slaves. But since you likely do not deem this action OK, this means you are instead deemed 'evil' by the Bible God. So now what?

Oh no, I am OK with chattel slavery. It comes under slavery. I said that explicitly.

Here are some of my quotes in the thread

> The post-hoc rationalisation is morality's purpose.

> I think slavery is part of the nature of reality. We are all slaves to sin. The biggest illusion of today (apart from the regular ones) is that slavery no longer exists. But for my intents I am also content to say that it is irrational to think you have done good/evil in a materialist universe. Whatever good/bad/evil is ... that's what morality is designed to cover up.

> I think it is a clear example. How did the slave owners sleep well at night knowing they were abusing other people? Morality. They felt it was morally OK.

> I think slavery is allowed in the Bible. I think God knows that we are all slaves to sin in the truest and deepest sense of the word and that the world is truly and deeply fallen awaiting the second coming.

So in that context, there is a 'time for everything' as Ecclesiastes says.

A proper understanding of slavery and since you own the topic on slavery as I now see, should lead a person to run to Jesus whose yoke is lightest.

But I think slavery is part of the fabric of reality. I think a proper understanding of God is that we see God as the ultimate slave.

> God is the master. We are the chattel slaves.

I am being explicit.

You have a choice from Devil to God to choose your master. Gods yoke is lightest. But I don't believe you can choose to not be a slave. Pretend all you like of course.

I think chattel slave is redundant. All my words apply.

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I just don't think you have an eyes wide open view of the world as it is right now. Most people are chattel slaves in my view right now. As best as I think I am able I am trying to run to the better chattel slave master.

[Wootah]

[Replying to POI in post #58]

I think our discussion is like this. I am saying gravity exists and you are saying that therefore I have to condone jumping off cliffs.