Cancel Culture

[boatsnguitars]

Cancel Culture appears to be a global discussion, through social media, on what we will and won't tolerate. Both the Right and Left Wing do it. We all do it. Even the Birds and Bees do it: We all decide what we will and won't tolerate as individuals, and bounce that off our "in group". But, now, unlike all of human history, our "in group" spans the globe in real time.

Here is a list of things people have tried to Cancel over time:

Amazon
Because the Washington Post published articles which were critical of Donald Trump, and the Post is owned by Jeff Bezos, Trump called for a boycott of Bezos's primary company, Amazon.
American Airlines
The company didn't punish its employees who showed solidarity with the Black Lives Matter movement, so conservatives called for a boycott. The boycott was renewed when the company rebuked the racist voter restrictions of Texas.
Amy Grant
Despite being a popular Christian singer, Grant had her albums and books pulled from the shelves and her songs blacklisted from Christian radio stations after she filed for divorce from her drug addict husband.
Apple
Donald Trump called for a nationwide boycott of Apple unless the company purposely weaken its phone encryption. Later, Conservatives called for a boycott because Apple wouldn't allow Parler on their App Store.
Arizona Republic
After the conservative newspaper endorsed Hillary Clinton, Trump said readers should cancel their subscriptions.
AT&T
Donald Trump called for a boycott of the communications company in hopes that it would encourage AT&T to cancel CNN.
Bank of America
After the company turned over account records for people involved in the January 6th Capitol insurrection, various Conservatives called for a boycott.
Banks which plan for climate change
Like all other major industries, banks are increasingly factoring in the cost of climate disasters into their finances. In their effort to eliminate any mention of climate change, Republicans in multiple states created bills that would force their state governments to end all business with any bank which mentioned climate change.
Barney
The purple dinosaur entertainer for pre-schoolers was boycotted by Christians in the 1990s because they felt the show had an anti-Christian agenda.
BBC
Republicans banned BBC journalists from White House briefings calling them the "enemy of the people," because they asked tough questions.
The Beatles
John Lennon said that The Beatles were bigger than Jesus which led to Conservative Christians publicly burning their albums.
Beauty and the Beast (2017 film)
The film includes a gay character and, very briefly, a male character who is happy to be in women's clothing, which Conservatives thought was inappropriate, so they boycotted the film.
Ben & Jerry's
The ice cream company was boycotted by Conservatives for the limited flavor "Schweddy Balls," based on an SNL skit, and later received calls for boycotts because of their anti-white supremacist and pro-black lives matter stance.
Black people
The US institutions of slavery, segregation, and redlining, all of which cancel black people from society, have all been supported primarily by Conservatives. They have also continually fought against equal voting rights.
Books
Conservatives in most US states have created long lists of books they want criminalized for a wide variety of reasons.
Bud Light
When the company announced a partnership with a transgender person and temporarily added rainbows to their can design, Republicans called for their followers to never drink the beer again. They even bought cases of the beer just so they could shoot them.
Budweiser
After the company released an ad briefly showing the hate the company's immigrant founder received when he arrived in the USA, Republicans called for a boycott.
Campbell's Soup
Conservatives called for a boycott of company because they had a commercial which featured a same-sex couple.
Capitol Hill Club
Despite being a private club which caters to Conservatives, Republicans called for a boycott because the club required its employees get a COVID-19 vaccine.
Carhartt
After the clothing company required its workers get vaccinated during the COVID-19 pandemic, many Conservatives burned their clothes and called for a boycott.
Charles Krauthammer
After the Conservative reporter pointed out all the reasons why Trump was lying when he claimed he fired FBI director James Comey, Trump said he should be fired.
Chick-Fil-A
Despite it being a company run by Conservative people who constantly donate money to Christian and anti-LGBT causes, Conservatives toyed with boycotting the company because they were trying to increase the company's diversity of employees who were people of color.
Chinese products
Trump urged Americans to boycott all Chinese products (despite most Trump merchandise being made in China) and urged people to shop at Walmart (which gets most of its products from China).
Chuck Todd
After the journalist aired a trimmed video of William Barr answering a question about Republicans dropping the charges against Michael Flynn, Trump said he should be fired, and suggested the FCC get involved.
Cisco
The software company was one of many who spoke out against Georgia's racist anti-voter laws, so Donald Trump called for their boycott.
Citigroup
The company was one of many who spoke out against Georgia's racist anti-voter laws, and one that Republicans boycotted.
CNN
The Trump administration banned the network from meetings several times because they asked tough questions.
Coca-Cola
After Coke spoke out against Georgia's racist anti-voter laws, Conservatives called for the company's boycott. Trump also called for a boycott, but kept drinking Coke. Republicans also called for a boycott of the company because they prevented a law that would allow for religious discrimination in Georgia.
Colin Kaepernick
The professional football player knelt during the national anthem to raise awareness for police violence against black people, so the NFL black listed him.
Common Core
Common Core is a general list of educational standards that children are expected to know as they progress through school. Although Conservatives were initially all for it, after it the Tea Party gained power, they opposed it, and most Conservatives followed along and now want the standards banned.
Cracker Barrel
Although the restaurant chain was once respected by Conservatives because it fired all their LGBT staff in 1991, the company slowly changed its opinion and, by the 2010s, was adopting LGBT-friendly policies. For Pride Month in 2023, the company even advertised a rainbow rocking chair prompting the expected Conservative boycott.
Critical race theory
Critical race theory is an academic framework for identifying racism in established law taught to college students entering legal professions. Yet, Republicans keep calling for it to be banned from grade schools.
The Da Vinci Code
Various conservative religious organizations called for a boycott of the book and film because they viewed it as anti-Christian.
The Dallas Morning News
After the conservative newspaper endorsed Hillary Clinton, Trump said readers should cancel their subscriptions.
Delta Airlines
Delta Airlines spoke out against several racist anti-voter laws passed by Republicans who responded to the chastisement with a boycott. They were also the target of a boycott after they stopped offering a discount to NRA members following another mass-shooting. They were also boycotted for preventing the passing of a religious discrimination law in Georgia.
Disney
When Disney reported they would allow their health insurance to cover same-sex couples in 1995, the Florida Baptist Convention, as well as many other Conservative groups, boycotted everything Disney. Conservatives called for Disney to lose all their copyrights for condemning the "don't say gay bill."
Dixie Chicks
The band disapproved of George W. Bush invading Iraq after the 9/11 since Iraq had nothing to do with the terrorist attack. This led to Conservatives denouncing them, burning their albums, and the band being blacklisted from thousands of country music radio stations. DJs were even punished for playing their music.
Doom
The popular game includes demons, so, Conservative Christians called for it to be banned.
Dr. Anthony Fauci
During the COVID-19 pandemic, the Republican party prevented their own head of infectious diseases from being allowed to speak about the virus because he wasn't downplaying the disease like they were. After losing the presidency, Republican congressmen continued to call for him to be censored from television.
Dungeons & Dragons
Because the game features mythological elements, Conservatives have accused it of teaching children Satanism.
Ellen DeGeneres
Even though Ellen was already out about being lesbian, when her character in the show Ellen came out as lesbian, advertisers pulled from the show and Conservatives demanded it be banned from television.
Enterprise Rent-A-Car
The car rental company was the target of a boycott after they stopped offering a discount to NRA members.
Evolution
Conservatives, driven primarily by religion, object to the very idea of evolution existing, let alone to it being taught.
Ford
19 Conservative groups boycotted Ford Motor Company because they wouldn't stop buying ad space in publications which supported same-sex marriage.
Fox
After seeing unfavorable comments made about him, Trump called for a boycott of Fox claiming they no longer worked for the Republican party.
France
While there has long been animosity between France and the USA, Conservative ire was piqued when France refused to help the USA invade Iraq. This led to calls of tariffs, boycotts, and even explicit violence against the nation.
French fries
After France refused to help the USA invade Iraq, Republican Bob Ney renamed French fries to freedom fries in three Congressional cafeterias. Several Conservative-run restaurants followed suit.
Ghostbusters (2016)
When it was announced that the Ghostbusters reboot would have heroines instead of heroes, Conservatives criticized and boycotted the film even before the first trailer was released.
Glenfiddich whiskey
Glenfiddich praised a farmer for refusing to sell his farm to Trump so he could turn it into a golf course, so Trump called to a company boycott and banned the drink from all his properties.
The Golden Compass
Conservatives boycotted the book and film because they viewed it as anti-Christian.
Good Omens
Since the TV series pokes fun at religious fundamentalists and has a demon as a main character, Christians have demanded its cancellation. They're probably not too thrilled about the book either.
Goodyear
Donald Trump called for a boycott of Goodyear after the company said his MAGA hats were not appropriate worker attire.
Grubhub
The food delivery company faced boycotts after the CEO said he rejects the "nationalist, anti-immigrant and hateful politics of Donald Trump."
The Guardian
Republicans banned the news organization from White House briefings calling them the "enemy of the people," because they asked tough questions.
Hallmark Channel
After the network aired ads features same-sex couples, Conservative groups called for a boycott.
"Happy holidays"
Conservatives have made the popular winter phrase "happy holidays" into a slur and demand that people say Merry Christmas, even if they don't celebrate Christmas. Trump even went as far as to say he would rid the nation of the phrase.
Harley-Davidson
After the motorcycle company moved manufacturing overseas, Donald Trump called for a boycott.
Harry Potter
Conservatives have staged numerous boycotts of the series claiming it promotes witchcraft, Satanism, and homosexuality.
HBO
Not liking criticism from shows on the network, Trump called for a total boycott.
Hershey
For International Women's Day, Hershey of Canada included a transgender woman in their ad, so Conservatives called for a boycott.
Hertz
After a the car rental company said they would stop offering discounts to NRA members, Conservatives began to boycott them.
History of racism
A Monmouth University poll found that 43% of Republicans do not want the history of racism in the USA to be taught in schools.
Home Depot
Georgia Republicans blamed their failure to pass a religious discrimination law on the company, and called for a boycott.
InterContinental Hotels
The hotel chain was one of the companies Georgia Republicans blamed for their failure to pass a religious discrimination law, so they called for a boycott.
Islam
In 2015, Donald Trump called for a complete ban on all Muslims from entering the USA, and the ban was eventually signed into law by the Republicans in Congress.
Jonah Goldberg
Despite being a Conservative pundit, Goldberg got into a Twitter feud with Trump and pointed out that he tweeted "like a 14-year-old girl," to which Trump said he should be forced to quit.
JPMorgan Chase
The company was one of many who spoke out against Georgia's racist anti-voter laws, and one that Republicans boycotted.
Judaism
Many of the most outspoken anti-Semites have been Conservative Christians.
Karl Rove
After the long-time Republican strategist failed to get excited over Trump winning the Nevada caucuses, Trump said he should be fired.
Kathy Griffin
After Trump's attack on Megyn Kelly where he said she had, "blood coming out of her, whatever." Griffin posed for a photo where she held up a fake bloody head of Donald Trump with the comment, "blood coming out of his wherever." This led to Conservative outrage resulting in Griffin losing several endorsements and jobs, and being put on the federal no-fly registry.
Katy Tur
After reporting how bad Trump handled a protest, Trump said the journalist should be fired and singled her out at a rally causing Trump fans to become so violent, the Secret Service had to escort her to safety.
Kellogg's
After Breitbart published various hate speech articles, Kellogg's pulled their ads. Breitbart retaliated by telling their readers to boycott the company.
Keurig
Sean Hannity defended Alabama Senate candidate Roy Moore despite many allegations of sexually assaulting children, so Keurig pulled their commercials from his show. Conservatives responded by publicly destroying their coffee makers.
Kohl's
After supporting LGBT people for Pride Month, Kohl's saw boycotts from Conservatives.
The Little Mermaid (2023)
After Disney announced that Halle Bailey, a black woman, would play Ariel in the live-action version of The Little Mermaid, many Conservative groups were angry that a fictional character that was once white would be depicted as black, so they said they would boycott the film. 1, 2.
Lego
After making its Everyone is Awesome rainbow set in 2021, Conservatives called for a boycott saying the plastic toy bricks were
grooming children.
Levi Strauss & Co.
When the company pulled its yearly funding from the Boy Scouts of America because they banned all LGBT members, Conservatives called for a boycott.
Libraries
Conservatives have called for and succeeded in closing down numerous libraries, firing librarians, and banning books because the libraries contained books about LGBT people that could be checked out by children.
Little Demon
When a cartoon about a 13-year-old girl being the daughter Satan and a mortal was announced, Christians immediately demanded it to be taken off the air.
Liz Cheney Liz Cheney was one of the few Republicans to publicly criticize Donald Trump's crimes, vote to have him impeached, and admit that he fairly lost the 2020 election. Because of this, several prominent Republicans called for her resignation and worked to strip her of her political authority.
M&Ms
Several Conservative spokespersons tried to cancel the candy after the company said it would de-sexualize their female candy cartoon characters in their advertisements.
Macy's
Donald Trump called for a boycott of Macy's after the retail chain dropped his clothing line for calling Mexican immigrants murderers and rapists.
Madonna
Catholic pope John Paul II urged Christians to boycott Madonna for being critical of Catholicism.
MLB
The head of Major League Baseball pulled the All-Star game out of Atlanta because Republicans passed several racist anti-voter laws, and Republicans called for a boycott.
Megyn Kelly
After the Fox pundit wasn't on his side firmly enough during a presidential debate, Donald Trump boycotted the Fox debate because of her and urged his followers to boycott her future shows.
Merck
The company was one of many who spoke out against Georgia's racist anti-voter laws, and one that Republicans boycotted.
Mexico
Trump called for a boycott on the entire nation of Mexico for multiple reasons.
Miller Lite
Miller was targeted by Conservative boycotts after posting an advertisement supporting Pride Month.
Mormonism
Some of the most fervent anti-Mormons are Conservative Christians.
Ms. Marvel
Christians called for a boycott of the series because they thought that the lead character is a gay Muslim.
NASCAR
After NASCAR banned the Confederate flag, many Conservative fans boycotted their races.
NBA
Conservatives boycotted the NBS for not punishing players who knelt during the national anthem to raise awareness of police violence against black people.
NBC
Donald Trump threatened to shut down the entire news network for publishing articles critical of him.
NFL
Conservatives boycotted the NFL because they wouldn't fire players who knelt during the national anthem to raise awareness of police violence against black people.
Netflix
Conservatives called for a boycott and a legal investigation against Netflix because they felt the documentary against child sexualization "Cuties" was too provocative. They also called for a boycott because Netflix signed a deal to make documentaries with Barack Obama.
The New York Times
Republicans banned the news organization from White House briefings calling them the "enemy of the people," because they asked tough questions.
Nike
After hiring Colin Kaepernick, Conservatives were publicly burning Nike shoes.
Nordstrom's
After the retailer dropped Ivanka's clothing line due to low sales, Donald Trump called for a boycott.
North Face
When the company said they supported LGBT people for Pride Month in 2022, they were met with several Conservative boycotts.
Oreo
Trump said he would boycott the cookie because the parent company moved a factory to Mexico, and the boycott trended on Conservative social media.
Patagonia
Republicans called for a boycott of the company because they were critical of Donald Trump selling off national monuments.
Paul Krugman
The economist published an article predicting Trump would tank the US economy, so Trump called for him to be fired.
Pepsi
When Donald Trump won the Electoral vote in 2016, the CEO of Pepsi said his employees were disheartened and afraid for the LGBT friends and family. Because of this, Trump supporters called for a boycott of all PepsiCo products.
Pokémon
Conservative Christians boycotted the franchise not only because they thought it taught evolution, but, because it they felt it promoted Satanism.
Potato Head
Various Fox hosts spent much of their time on television deriding Hasbro when they changed their "Mr. Potato Head" toy to just "Potato Head" which included both male and female accessories.
Procter & Gamble
The didn't support excluding LGBT people from anti-discrimination laws so Conservative Christians called for a boycott.
PBS
Donald Trump tried to pull funding from all of PBS because Sesame Street parodied him.
Republicans who voted to hold Trump accountable
The seven Republicans who voted to impeach Donald Trump for his incitement of an insurrection all faced calls to resign.
Rich Lowry
The pundit said Republican competitor Carly Fiorina had castrated Trump, so Trump said Lowry should be fined by the FCC and not allowed on television.
Rock music
Effectively all musical genres under the "rock" blanket have been denounced and boycotted by Conservative Christians.
Samantha Bee
She called Ivanka Trump a "feckless c*nt" for using her father's political position for personal gain and Conservatives demanded she be fired.
Same sex weddings
Conservatives have a long history of being against same-sex marriage, and many groups call for a boycott of any and all same sex weddings.
Sandi Patty
When it came out that the popular Christian singer had an extra-marital affair, she was canceled from Christian music.
Sesame Street
Donald Trump tried to pull funding from not just Sesame Street, but all of PBS because the show parodied him. Conservatives in Mississippi temporarily banned the show from television for showing black and white children playing together.
Sex education
Conservatives fight the vast majority of attempts to educate children on matters of sex.
Scooby-Doo
When a new cartoon showed the character Velma having a crush on another woman, Conservatives called for a boycott.
She-Hulk: Attorney at Law Christians boycotted the film claiming that the main character is a trans character.
The Simpsons
In the 1990s, Conservatives all over the country were banning Simpsons apparel because it wasn't wholesome enough.
Social media
After Twitter applied a "potentially misleading" notice to one of Trump's tweets, he called for all social media outlets to be strongly regulated or closed down.
Star Wars
Donald Trump supporters called for a ban on the franchise because an upcoming film might contain footage critical of Trump-style politics. Years earlier, Conservative Christians boycotted the films because they likened the Force to witchcraft.
Starbucks
In 2012, Starbucks was the target of a boycott because they supported the legalization of same-sex marriage. In 2015, Starbucks designed a new holiday-themed cup that wasn't Christian enough for Conservatives, so they boycotted the stores.
Stephen Colbert
After making a long tirade of jokes where Donald Trump was the butt, several prominent Conservatives, including Trump, called for a boycott, and many demanded the FCC investigate his show.
Target
When the retail store announced their customers could use the bathroom that best matched their gender, Conservatives called for a boycott. In June 2023, Conservatives all around the country picketed and boycotted Target for selling LGBT-themed merchandise for Pride Month.
Teletubbies
Though sexuality and sexual preference are never mentioned on the show in any form, Conservatives created a conspiracy theory the Teletubby Tinky Winky was created by liberals to secretly promote homosexuality.
Thor: Love and Thunder
Christians called for the film to be boycotted because it contained too many LGBT characters.
Touré
The black reporter saying Mitt Romney was using racially coded language, so Trump called him racist and said he should be fired.
Toy Story 4
Because the film had a same-sex couple, Conservatives called for a boycott.
Transgender people
Republican politicians around the country have tried to cancel transgender people from receiving medical treatment, playing sports, and going to the bathroom.
United Airlines
When the airline stopped offering discounts to NRA members, Conservative boycotted them.
Univision
After Trump referred to Mexicans as drug dealers, murderers, and rapists, Univision cut ties with Trump, so Trump not only called for Americans to boycott the Mexican TV channel, but banned all Univision employees from his properties, and doxed one of the network's reporters.
UPS
The company was one of many who spoke out against Georgia's racist anti-voter laws, and one that Republicans boycotted. Republicans also called for a boycott because the company spoke out against Republicans trying to pass a religious discrimination law.
ViacomCBS
The company was one of many who spoke out against Georgia's racist anti-voter laws, and one that Republicans boycotted.
Video games
The very concept of video games have been called on to be banned, boycotted, or otherwise decried by Conservatives, primarily because they don't represent Christian values, but they are frequently attacked for not representing general values.
Walmart
A third party seller on Walmart's website sold a T-shirt which read "Impeach 45," which resulted in boycotts of the chain. Other calls for boycotting occurred when the company required their employees be vaccinated.
Washington Post
Trump canceled the White House subscription to "fake news" newspapers and urged all other federal agencies to do the same.
Wall Street Journal
After the Conservative media outlet said he was in second place in the polls, Trump called for the firing of the pollster and the entire editorial staff.
Wells Fargo
After the company ran a commercial with a lesbian couple, Conservative Christians pulled their money from the bank.
Wrangler Jeans
Country music fans boycotted Wrangler jeans after the company released some apparel featuring the song "Old Town Road" which was sung by black rapper Lil Nas X.
Yoga
Many Conservative Christians want yoga banned because they view it a teaching Hinduism. In Alabama, yoga has been banned from public schools.

Let's not forget Rap Music, The Life of Brian, the statue of David (a Biblical figure - no less), nude art in general, etc.... Oh, and J.K. Rowling.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/03/t-ma ... story.html

The important point is that this is now a genie out of the bottle (in terms of social media being a fixture in society now), and as long as we allow open conversation, we will have people moralizing - and people agreeing or disagreeing.

We are in the process of creating a new society on the ruins of the pre-social media one. It's going to be messy because we are mixing, e.g., smart, educated, Liberals raised in Vegan homes, with solar panels - with unintelligent, uneducated, Conservatives raised in Vegan-hating homes in the middle of some rural backwater of a country.

There is a lot to hash out between us all, and since we don't have Objective Moral Values, or a God to sort it out for us, we'll have to do the hard work as a society, together.

[marke]

Well, let's take a look at that. Republicans ordered an investigation and hired a republican company to find the fraud. But...

PHOENIX — The Senate’s long-awaited audit report formally confirmed Friday that Joe Biden defeated Donald Trump in Arizona’s largest county, and found no evidence of fraud in the 2020 election.

Doug Logan, CEO of Cyber Ninjas, said the hand count his firm performed with volunteers found 1,040,873 votes for Biden, which is actually 99 more than the official Maricopa County tally.

By contrast, the audit tallied 995,404 votes for the former president, 261 less than the county found.
https://tucson.com/news/local/arizona-a ... fb6f8.html

At some point, it's necessary to make an accommodation to reality.

Marke: Crooks in Arizona stole the election by voting fraud and then committed more fraud by covering up the facts and obstructing real investigators at every turn.

1. Predetermined Algorithms Source of Widespread Election Fraud in Arizona - UncoverDC 6-29-22
2. Arizona Lawmakers Subpoena Audits of Ballots, Dominion Voting Machines | The Epoch Times 12-15-20
3. GOP officials rebut audit, The Hill 1-5-22
4. AZ AG demands Maricopa officials turn over mis-matched signature files, West Journal 3-22-22
5. More AZ fraud; whistleblowers reveal hundreds of thousands of ballots with mis-matched signatures counted in 2020, Gateway Pundit 12-13-22
6. AZ Senate finds 200,000 ballots with mis-matched signatures illegally counted, humanevents.com 2-28-22
7. Confirmed: 200,000 ballots with mis-matched signatures counted in 2020, WMD 2-28-22
8. BREAKING HUGE: "Voter Identity Theft" - Arizona Judge Defines Voter Registration Record, Rules that Mail-In Ballot Signatures Have Been Compared Illegally! - ORDER INCLUDED | The Gateway Pundit | by Jordan Conradson 9-6-23
9. Court Finds Arizona’s Signature Matching Process Unlawful in ‘Massive Win’ for Election Integrity | NTD 9-7-23
10. WATCH: Kari Lake WRECKS Katie Hobbs and Other Corrupt Officials Who Colluded With Twitter to Interfere in Midterm Election During AZ House Hearing on Big Tech Election Interference | The Gateway Pundit | by Jordan Conradson 9-7-23
11. Runbeck whistleblower exposes violations of election laws in Arizona, Gateway Pundit 12-10-22
12. Maricopa County uses Runbeck to count ballots without supervision, Clever Journeys 11-12-22
13. 5-12-21_Letter_to_Maricopa_County_Board.pdf (chipleybugle.com)
14. https://www.abc15.com/news/state/what-d ... audit-mean 5-13-21
15. BREAKING UPDATE: Maricopa County Republican Committee Votes UNANIMOUSLY To Reject Fraudulent 2020 Election Results | The Gateway Pundit | by Jordan Conradson 7-8-22

[Purple Knight]

History has proven that evil political activists promote the false narrative that income inequality or uneven wealth distribution is an evil that must be fixed by socialists like themselves. No fascist socialist has ever fixed wealth disparities while most who succeed only end up increasing their own wealth far above the levels of those they dishonestly claim they want to help. Income inequalities will always exist and shame on those who promote impossible cures to advance their own wealth and power.

None of that means extreme wealth disparity is not wrong. Though it might mean it can't be fixed, that's different. Slavery, which is assumed to be a wrong, is nothing more than the most extreme extreme of wealth disparity: One party having everything and the other owning nothing, not even himself. The next-worst extreme collapses into the extreme of slavery, because even if you must own yourself but you own nothing else, you now owe rent to whichever land baron owns the land you're standing on. And how will you pay that when you're a naked bum? Well, you'll have to work for him obviously. Whatever is slavery with extra steps... is just slavery.

Health free societies allow the freedom of competition to govern who gets the best jobs.

Allowing free competition quickly turns into a rat's nest of nepotism as soon as the holders of wealth can deter fair competition by raising barriers to entry. Hollywood is an example. The more wealth and industry power they hold, and the less feasible they can make it for someone to make a successful movie in their basement, the more they can simply hire their talentless friends and crash the quality of their product because nobody else can raise the millions necessary to make a movie, and even if they could, it would never make anything back because the theatres make more money bowing to the system and taking guaranteed profit than they could by bucking the system for one huge hit and hoping some other guy in his basement makes another. The medical, insurance, and many other industries suffer from the deliberate restriction by industry, of choice.

To give you a simpler example of how wealth and power corrupt a fair system, let's say both Bob and Rob have little private theatres. They start out in competitive equilibrium but Rob has more wealth and power. So he pays for property owners near Bob's theatre to turn up their lights, turn up their noise, and ruin Bob's theatre. There are unlimited dirty tricks of this nature to throw your weight around rather than fairly compete in a capitalist system. And once we say, well, the government should intervene then, of course, we've given the government the very power it can't have: The power to mess with peoples' property.

The US treasury is like a pie in that it does not create wealth for itself but must rely on what it can obtain from tax payers to pay bills. Because there is always a limited size of the pie we need to root out waste, fraud, and theft where crooks are stealing large slices of the pie totally for themselves that should instead be reserved for the massive needs of the whole nation.

Agreed, but that requires government to be empowered.

The US government does not produce income but there is no limit to the amount of wealth that can be created by those doing the hard work of producing durable goods. Government wealth is limited like the size of pies, but private wealth has no cap and one person's gain of wealth does not make other workers poorer.

In a system without money, you're right. My having ten billion oranges does nothing to you unless you happen to make your way by oranges, in which case you'll just have to make your way by something else and in all likelihood, you can. But in a system with money, my having more money hurts you significantly because every time I throw it around, I am increasing demand which increases prices for you.

A system without fiat currency might look a lot like a system without money at all, but it depends on how people with a lot of wealth are getting it. If they really dug resources out of the ground and increased real wealth to gain their money, all is well because that balances the equation. But if they gained wealth by deceit or simply by collecting rent on already vast wealth, that eventually collapses to slavery because the flow of wealth toward them is not only always positive, it is always increasing. If wealth alone = more wealth, which it does in a capitalist system, that = bad.

[marke]

History has proven that evil political activists promote the false narrative that income inequality or uneven wealth distribution is an evil that must be fixed by socialists like themselves. No fascist socialist has ever fixed wealth disparities while most who succeed only end up increasing their own wealth far above the levels of those they dishonestly claim they want to help. Income inequalities will always exist and shame on those who promote impossible cures to advance their own wealth and power.

None of that means extreme wealth disparity is not wrong. Though it might mean it can't be fixed, that's different. Slavery, which is assumed to be a wrong, is nothing more than the most extreme extreme of wealth disparity: One party having everything and the other owning nothing, not even himself. The next-worst extreme collapses into the extreme of slavery, because even if you must own yourself but you own nothing else, you now owe rent to whichever land baron owns the land you're standing on. And how will you pay that when you're a naked bum? Well, you'll have to work for him obviously. Whatever is slavery with extra steps... is just slavery.

Marke. It is not the job of a free government to rob wages from workers to give to non-workers, especially if the society that robs from the rich and gives to the poor also unjustly funnels billions of dollars into the coffers of the wicked and deranged leftist supporters of the government in order to prop up the unjust system.

Health free societies allow the freedom of competition to govern who gets the best jobs.

Allowing free competition quickly turns into a rat's nest of nepotism as soon as the holders of wealth can deter fair competition by raising barriers to entry. Hollywood is an example. The more wealth and industry power they hold, and the less feasible they can make it for someone to make a successful movie in their basement, the more they can simply hire their talentless friends and crash the quality of their product because nobody else can raise the millions necessary to make a movie, and even if they could, it would never make anything back because the theatres make more money bowing to the system and taking guaranteed profit than they could by bucking the system for one huge hit and hoping some other guy in his basement makes another. The medical, insurance, and many other industries suffer from the deliberate restriction by industry, of choice.

Marke: Capitalism promotes the greedy while socialism promotes the lazy and greedy.

To give you a simpler example of how wealth and power corrupt a fair system, let's say both Bob and Rob have little private theatres. They start out in competitive equilibrium but Rob has more wealth and power. So he pays for property owners near Bob's theatre to turn up their lights, turn up their noise, and ruin Bob's theatre. There are unlimited dirty tricks of this nature to throw your weight around rather than fairly compete in a capitalist system. And once we say, well, the government should intervene then, of course, we've given the government the very power it can't have: The power to mess with peoples' property.

Marke: Socialists in the US have used the full weight of the weaponized government to help the favored classes like malcontented racist black democrats at the expense of white conservatives.

The US treasury is like a pie in that it does not create wealth for itself but must rely on what it can obtain from tax payers to pay bills. Because there is always a limited size of the pie we need to root out waste, fraud, and theft where crooks are stealing large slices of the pie totally for themselves that should instead be reserved for the massive needs of the whole nation.

Agreed, but that requires government to be empowered.

The US government does not produce income but there is no limit to the amount of wealth that can be created by those doing the hard work of producing durable goods. Government wealth is limited like the size of pies, but private wealth has no cap and one person's gain of wealth does not make other workers poorer.

In a system without money, you're right. My having ten billion oranges does nothing to you unless you happen to make your way by oranges, in which case you'll just have to make your way by something else and in all likelihood, you can. But in a system with money, my having more money hurts you significantly because every time I throw it around, I am increasing demand which increases prices for you.

Marke: Funding leftists like Stacey Abrams, George Soros and hundreds of others with billions of dollars robs the US of resources that can only be replished by raising higher taxes on workers.

A system without fiat currency might look a lot like a system without money at all, but it depends on how people with a lot of wealth are getting it. If they really dug resources out of the ground and increased real wealth to gain their money, all is well because that balances the equation. But if they gained wealth by deceit or simply by collecting rent on already vast wealth, that eventually collapses to slavery because the flow of wealth toward them is not only always positive, it is always increasing. If wealth alone = more wealth, which it does in a capitalist system, that = bad.

Marke: Anyone can accuse anyone else of being evil and greedy but a socialist society of the greedy and evil is much worse for good people that a capitalist society full of greedy and evil citizens.

[The Barbarian]

(Numerous unsupported claims of voter fraud in Arizona)

But the republican party's chosen group of auditors finally admitted the truth...

PHOENIX — The Senate’s long-awaited audit report formally confirmed Friday that Joe Biden defeated Donald Trump in Arizona’s largest county, and found no evidence of fraud in the 2020 election.

Doug Logan, CEO of Cyber Ninjas, said the hand count his firm performed with volunteers found 1,040,873 votes for Biden, which is actually 99 more than the official Maricopa County tally.

By contrast, the audit tallied 995,404 votes for the former president, 261 less than the county found.
https://tucson.com/news/local/arizona-a ... fb6f8.html

That's right. The republicans' chosen auditor found that Biden won by a bigger margin than intially reported.

At some point, it's necessary to make an accommodation to reality.

Kari Lake, once the fresh-faced MAGA firebrand set to shake up Arizona’s political scene, is now a veteran loser.

Monday night, with Lake trailing in Arizona’s U.S. Senate race by more than 72,000 votes, several news organizations called the race in favor of Democratic Rep. Ruben Gallego. After also losing the 2022 gubernatorial race to Gov. Katie Hobbs — which Lake never conceded, even as the courts shot down her multiple lawsuits trying to overturn the results — Lake has now suffered two straight statewide election losses.
https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/ar ... y-20553872

[The Barbarian]

The massive 2020 voting fraud evidence democrats seek to hide was enough to change the outcome of the 2020 election.

Trump's own Ag admitted that there was no such fraud. Over 30 courts, some presided over by Trump-appointed judges, found no such fraud. C'mon.

Marke: Barr was not always right and he was wrong in some statements he made about the 2020 election.

https://www.inquirer.com/politics/elect ... 20drafting

Former AG Bill Barr personally involved in drafting misleading statement on Pa. mail ballot investigation, DOJ watchdog finds

In those cases, Barr was taken to task for acting to support Donald Trump's false claims of voter fraud by misleading press releases. You seem to have made my point for me.

[marke]

(Numerous unsupported claims of voter fraud in Arizona)

But the republican party's chosen group of auditors finally admitted the truth...

PHOENIX — The Senate’s long-awaited audit report formally confirmed Friday that Joe Biden defeated Donald Trump in Arizona’s largest county, and found no evidence of fraud in the 2020 election.

Doug Logan, CEO of Cyber Ninjas, said the hand count his firm performed with volunteers found 1,040,873 votes for Biden, which is actually 99 more than the official Maricopa County tally.

By contrast, the audit tallied 995,404 votes for the former president, 261 less than the county found.
https://tucson.com/news/local/arizona-a ... fb6f8.html

That's right. The republicans' chosen auditor found that Biden won by a bigger margin than intially reported.

At some point, it's necessary to make an accommodation to reality.

Marke: One of the problems with the audit was that the auditors did not verify the legitimacy of every vote cast. Of course recounting illegitimate votes will yield the same number or closely the same number of votes every time you count the same tainted batch of votes.

Here are the legitimate concerns of non-democrat officials who questioned both the 2020 election and the shoddy recount:

5-12-21_Letter_to_Maricopa_County_Board.pdf (chipleybugle.com)
Clear evidence of fraud, corruption, and obstruction.

KAREN FANN COMMITTEES:

SENATE PRESIDENT Rules, Chairman FIFTY-FIFTH LEGISLATURE 1700 WEST WASHINGTON, SENATE PHOENIX, ARIZONA 85007-2844 PHONE: (602) 926-5874 TOLL FREE: 1-800-352-8404 kfann@azleg.gov
DISTRICT 1

Arizona State Senate May 12, 2021 Maricopa Board of Supervisors c/o Chairman Jack Sellers 301 West Jefferson Street, #10 Phoenix, Arizona 85003

Dear Chairman Sellers: I am writing to seek your assistance and cooperation in the resolution of three (3) serious issues that have arisen in the course of the Senate’s ongoing audit of the returns of the November 3, 2020 general election in Maricopa County. I. Ongoing Non-Compliance with the Legislative Subpoenas The first issue concerns Maricopa County’s apparent intent to renege on its previous commitment to comply fully with the legislative subpoenas issued on January 13, 2021, which, as you know, Judge Thomason found were valid and enforceable. To date, attorneys for Maricopa County have refused to produce virtual images of routers used in connection with the general election, relying on a conclusory and unsupported assertion that providing the routers would somehow “endanger the lives of law enforcement officers, their operations, or the protected health information and personal data of Maricopa County’s citizens.” If true, the fact that Maricopa County stores on its routers substantial quantities of citizens’ and employees’ highly sensitive personal information is an alarming indictment of the County’s lax data security practices, rather than of the legislative subpoenas.

Similarly, the County’s assertion that producing the internet routers for inspection would cost up to $6,000,000 seems at odds with Deputy County Attorney Joseph La Rue’s prior representation to Audit Liaison Ken Bennett that the routers already had been disconnected from the County’s network and were prepared for imminent delivery to the Senate. Nevertheless, in an effort to resolve the dispute regarding production of the routers, we propose that agents of CyFIR, an experienced digital forensics firm and subcontractor of Cyber Ninjas, review virtual images of the relevant routers in Maricopa County facilities and in the presence of representatives of the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office. Such an arrangement would permit Maricopa County to retain custody and monitor the review of router data, while ensuring that the Senate may access the information it requires—and to which it is constitutionally entitled—to successfully complete its audit. The Senate has no interest in viewing or taking possession of any information that is unrelated to the administration of the 2020 general election.

Separately, Maricopa County has refused to provide the passwords necessary to access vote tabulation devices. Its attorneys’ insistence that the County does not have custody or control of this information is belied by the County’s conduct of its own audits, which, if they were as comprehensive as they purported to be, almost certainly would have entailed use of the passwords to examine the tabulation devices, and it strains credulity to posit that the County has no contractual right to obtain (i.e., control of) password information from Dominion. II. Chain of Custody and Ballot Organization Anomalies As the audit has progressed, the Senate’s contractors have become aware of apparent omissions, inconsistencies, and anomalies relating to Maricopa County’s handling, organization, and storage of ballots.

We hope you can assist us in understanding these issues, including specifically the following: 1. The County has not provided any chain-of-custody documentation for the ballots. Does such documentation exist, and if so, will it be produced? 2. The bags in which the ballots were stored are not sealed, although the audit team has found at the bottom of many boxes cut seals of the type that would have sealed a ballot bag. Why were these seals placed at the bottom of the boxes? 3. Batches within a box are frequently separated by only a divider without any indication of the corresponding batch numbers. In some cases, the batch dividers are missing altogether. This lack of organization has significantly complicated and delayed the audit team’s ballot processing efforts. What are the County’s procedures for sorting, organizing, and packaging ballot batches?

4. Most of the ballot boxes were sealed merely with regular tape and not secured by any kind of tamper-evident seal. Is that the County’s customary practice for storing ballots? 5. The audit team has encountered a significant number of instances in which there is a disparity between the actual number of ballots contained in a batch and the total denoted on the pink report slip accompanying the batch. In most of these instances, the total on the pink report slip is greater than the number of ballots in the batch, although there are a few instances in which the total is lower.

What are the reasons for these discrepancies? For your reference, please see several illustrative (i.e., not comprehensive) examples in the table below: Pallet Ballot Type Batch Pink Slip Total Actual Total Discrepancy 5 EV 2104 200 198 -2 5 EV 9276 200 165 -35 15 EV 9278 200 187 -13 15 EV 1643 200 218 18 7 EV 6359 197 187 -10 For your convenience, images of the corresponding pink report slips are attached in Exhibit A. III. Deleted Databases We have recently discovered that the entire “Database” directory from the D drive of the machine “EMSPrimary” has been deleted. This removes election related details that appear to have been covered by the subpoena. In addition, the main database for the Election Management System (EMS) Software, “Results Tally and Reporting,” is not located anywhere on the EMSPrimary machine, even though all of the EMS Clients reference that machine as the location of the database. This suggests that the main database for all election related data for the November 2020 General Election has been removed. Can you please advise as to why these folders were deleted, and whether there are any backups that may contain the deleted folders? The image below shows the location of the files known to be deleted. In addition, the main database for “Results Tally and Reporting” is not present. * * *

I am hopeful that we can constructively resolve these issues and questions without recourse to additional subpoenas or other compulsory process. To that end, I invite you and any other officers or employees of Maricopa County (to include officials in the Elections Department) who possess knowledge or information concerning the matters set forth above to a meeting at the Arizona State Capitol on Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 1:00 p.m. in Hearing Room 109. Chairman Petersen, former Secretary Bennett and I will attend the meeting, which will be live-streamed to the public. Please let me know at your earliest convenience whether you accept my invitation and, if so, which Maricopa County personnel will attend. Thank you for your cooperation on these important issues of public concern.

Respectfully, Karen Fann, President Arizona State Senate.

[The Barbarian]

(Numerous unsupported claims of voter fraud in Arizona)

But the republican party's chosen group of auditors finally admitted the truth...

PHOENIX — The Senate’s long-awaited audit report formally confirmed Friday that Joe Biden defeated Donald Trump in Arizona’s largest county, and found no evidence of fraud in the 2020 election.

Doug Logan, CEO of Cyber Ninjas, said the hand count his firm performed with volunteers found 1,040,873 votes for Biden, which is actually 99 more than the official Maricopa County tally.

By contrast, the audit tallied 995,404 votes for the former president, 261 less than the county found.
https://tucson.com/news/local/arizona-a ... fb6f8.html

That's right. The republicans' chosen auditor found that Biden won by a bigger margin than intially reported.

At some point, it's necessary to make an accommodation to reality.

Marke: One of the problems with the audit was that the auditors did not verify the legitimacy of every vote cast.

Hard to see how the republican-chosen auditors managed to get such precise data on the election, if they did not.

Of course recounting illegitimate votes will yield the same number or closely the same number of votes every time you count the same tainted batch of votes.

You're claiming you know more than the republican auditors? How so? Why not just accept the facts; even a highly partisan republican auditing group admitted that Biden won by a larger margin than Maricopa county initially determined.

Absent actual evidence, you have nothing but "I really wish Trump had won."

Marke:Here are the legitimate concerns of non-democrat officials who questioned both the 2020 election and the shoddy recount:

If so, they have no one to blame but themselves; they appointed the auditors.

[Purple Knight]

Anyone can accuse anyone else of being evil and greedy but a socialist society of the greedy and evil is much worse for good people that a capitalist society full of greedy and evil citizens.

It depends on whether there is a mechanism in that capitalist society to prevent wealth from simply flowing towards more wealth passively, and whether there are mechanisms in place in that society to prevent wealth from flowing regardless of any real contribution being made. If those mechanisms exist and work, then I agree. If they do not work, then the socialist good person has it better, because even in the worst case, where he was the farmer, and he is killed, the elites then starve with him. In our system, the worker will be endlessly disenfranchised and replaced, and the elites will never suffer with him.

[marke]

(Numerous unsupported claims of voter fraud in Arizona)

Marke: One of the problems with the audit was that the auditors did not verify the legitimacy of every vote cast.

Hard to see how the republican-chosen auditors managed to get such precise data on the election, if they did not.

Marke: You don't have to suppose the auditors went to the trouble to verify the eligibility of every vote since there is no evidence that anyone has ever done that still to this day. With thousands of double votes, illegal immigrant votes, illegally registered voters, and mysterious ballots lacking chain-of-custody or signature verification documentation there is no way anyone can claim the election was not seriously damaged by serious failures in verification.

Of course recounting illegitimate votes will yield the same number or closely the same number of votes every time you count the same tainted batch of votes.

You're claiming you know more than the republican auditors? How so? Why not just accept the facts; even a highly partisan republican auditing group admitted that Biden won by a larger margin than Maricopa county initially determined.

[The Barbarian]

(Numerous unsupported claims of voter fraud in Arizona)

One of the problems with the audit was that the auditors did not verify the legitimacy of every vote cast.

Hard to see how the republican-chosen auditors managed to get such precise data on the election, if they did not.

. With thousands of double votes, illegal immigrant votes, illegally registered voters, and mysterious ballots lacking chain-of-custody or signature verification documentation

Your problem is that no one can show any evidence for those claims. That's why nearly 30 different courts, some headed by Trump-appointed judges, tossed out Trump's lawsuits.

there is no way anyone can claim the election was not seriously damaged by serious failures in verification.

We can merely point out, as Trump's own Attorney General admitted, that there is no evidence to support such claims.