Sonofason wrote:
No, you are not thinking this through at all. I have never once suggested that Allah is not God. Nor have I ever suggested that Zeus is not God. I am telling you, there is only one God. You figure it out.
It's simple to figure out, you have chosen to believe one of the god myths amongst the many purported throughout history and ignore all the rest. I totally get that.
I know that even in the world of Christianity there are various and often contradicting beliefs of men. I think it is you atheists who always bring up the fact that there are, I don't know, some 2,000 denominations of Christianity.
Actually, there are over 38,000 Christian denominations that will attest and support the contradictions.
It is not that one of them is right, and all the others are wrong. But ALL of them are mostly wrong.
And, yours is right, yeah, I get that, too.
And I can tell you with all certainty, that this is not God's problem. It is a problem in man.
Agreed, it is a problem that has plagued mankind for centuries, has started wars and continues to cause conflict and grief throughout the world.
The pride of man is a tremendous stumbling block that prevents ALL men from truly understanding God.
And, of course, that would be YOUR personal understanding of God.
So I am not telling you that all these supposed different gods are indeed different gods. I don't know much about them.
That admittance would most definitely show bias on your part.
I know the one God who exists, and I discovered Him in Christianity. I am not telling you you can't find Him some other way. But I am telling you that you can find Him in Christ.
That is highly doubtful.
You have no evidence to support your claim that God does not exist.
So what? You have no evidence to show He does exist. You also have no evidence to show all the other gods don't exist, either.
What exactly is your point?
Suggesting to me that there are numerous religions in the world only proves my point. God is apparent to the world.
Since you have already admitted to not knowing much about other gods, I can conclude your confirmation bias, considering all those other gods have completely different scriptures and messages delivered to the masses. If you actually took the time to research other gods, you'd know that, too.
The point is, you have absolutely no reason to dis-believe in God; yet you do. That is BLIND FAITH.
Says the kettle to the pot.
I on the other hand do have faith, but it is not blind faith at all. My faith is based on experience. I have experienced God, and so I have faith in God. I have faith in what I experience. I got up out of bed this morning because I experienced the light coming through my window. Was it blind faith?
So, the light coming through your window was God as opposed to a collection of photons.
Of course not. I saw the light and so I got out of bed. I experience God. Believe me or not. Either way it is no loss to me.
It is obvious that one could not believe something so absurd.
I have faith in God, not because I have no evidence of Him, but because I do. I am confident that God is real because I experience Him. I trust in Him because I know Him. That is my faith in God. It is confidence and it is trust in Him; not blind faith like that of an atheists whose faith in the absence of something is based on an utter lack of evidence.
Yet, you have offered nothing but blind faith. Where is your evidence other than a collection of photons traveling through your window?
The cause of my faith in God is very similar to your example here. Indeed when you begin to fall from gravity, it's hard to escape the reality of gravity. When you've been touched first hand by the love of God, you cannot escape the reality of the love of God. But you keep telling me that I don't experience God. And so I have little reason to believe that you do indeed experience gravity. Please prove to me that you experience something called gravity. How do I know you're not just delusional?
Asking absurd questions does not an argument make. Jump off any cliff or tall building and you too will experience the result of gravity and most certainly, up to point of splattering on the ground below will you understand the "delusion" of gravity.
Gravity is an experience every person on the planet cannot escape, yet they won't experience your God.
Let's back up a bit, shall we. You here admit that you have NO evidence to support your claim that my God does not exist. Yet you believe it. Let's be clear, you have no evidence to show me, and you have no evidence yourself, to support your claim that there is no God.
You have no evidence to support your Gods existence. But, YOU are the one making the positive claim, not me.
That is not where I am friend. I have evidence of God.
No, you don't. If you did, we would all observe it, too.
I believe in God because of the evidence I have received. But it is true, none of my experience of God can I share with you. I just can't pull my experience out of my back pocket to show you.
Exactly, which is why your so-called experiences cannot be distinguished from delusion or mental illness.
If I should explain my experience of God to a believer, he would surely understand. Because he would have experienced something similar of God, and so my story would be quite believable to them.
That is false considering we observe arguments between many believers here in that regard, far more than we see any agreement.
Don't forget about the 38,000 denominations of Christianity.
You have no experience of God, and so your ego is telling you that you are as good as any one else, and so if there is a God, surely, He'd speak to me too. But that hasn't been the case has it. You've been left out of the evidence locker. You've been shut out. You are an outcast in the realms of God. Not my problem.
Yes, I can understand how one can consider themselves "special" that they have experienced God while the rest of us have been "shut out, outcasts". That is exactly what we expect and observe from the delusional and mentally disturbed.
Of course, we also understand that God would never leave anyone out, not matter what. He would make sure we all had God experiences and that we would most certainly be able to acknowledge them and be able to distinguish them from delusions.
We have to wonder though, why God has cursed so many with mental disorders that they are unable to distinguish reality from fantasy.