A question to Jews about Jesus Christ:

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A question to Jews about Jesus Christ:

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The following question has been in my mind since quite a few days and thus have decided to ask posters of Judaism belief (on board):

If Jesus (peace be upon him) was a false prophet/messiah (God forbid) and was punished by the court by being killed at the cross, do you have any grave or anything as a proof to show that he really died at the cross (God forbid)???

Will be very thank if any Jew can clarify things here by replying.

Waiting for your answers folks......
O People! See the difference between Mullah-ism and Islam. They both are two opposite things.

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carolineislands wrote:No kidding! I cried.
It doesn´t happen too often and that´s the fact why you cried. Norman said it right, "It doesn't happen often. Let us rejoice when it does."
O People! See the difference between Mullah-ism and Islam. They both are two opposite things.

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Truth_Teller wrote:
carolineislands wrote:No kidding! I cried.
It doesn´t happen too often and that´s the fact why you cried. Norman said it right, "It doesn't happen often. Let us rejoice when it does."
Let me also note that I suddenly have a great appreciation for your signature line.

I think an analogous line for Christians might be, "O people! See the difference between televangelism (or fundamentalism) and Christianity!"

For Jews, maybe "ultra-Orthodoxy" would apply, but at least they tend to hassle only other Jews.

Well, they and Tehuda Berg. But he's a special case and very few Jews take him seriously. (He's the founder of the Kabbalah Centre and peddles fake Jewish mysticism to credulous Gentiles. Think red string and Madonna. He's not political, just venal.)

Anyway. The most virulent conflict in the present day seems to be between some Muslims, at least, and many Jews. It's heartening to know that there are lights in that darkness.

For the record, there are many, many programs in Israel and elsewhere that are intended to foster contact and friendships between members of our two religions, particularly camping programs that include both Jewish and Muslim children and youth (camping has been a big thing for Jewish kids for ages). These programs are very highly regarded by those who work in them and participate in them.

Every little bit helps.

Thanks again for your candor and your good will.

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Truth_Teller wrote:
carolineislands wrote:No kidding! I cried.
It doesn´t happen too often and that´s the fact why you cried. Norman said it right, "It doesn't happen often. Let us rejoice when it does."
I always cry when I'm rejoicing.

:)

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carolineislands wrote:
Truth_Teller wrote:
carolineislands wrote:No kidding! I cried.
It doesn´t happen too often and that´s the fact why you cried. Norman said it right, "It doesn't happen often. Let us rejoice when it does."
I always cry when I'm rejoicing.

:)
Kids do sometimes show us the best in ourselves before the world crushes them into their mold.
I remember when I was 12 and 13 my best friends were Jewish kids and frankly we didn't see much of a difference. We played together, ate together and stayed over night at each others houses.

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Cathar1950 wrote:
carolineislands wrote:
Truth_Teller wrote:
carolineislands wrote:No kidding! I cried.
It doesn´t happen too often and that´s the fact why you cried. Norman said it right, "It doesn't happen often. Let us rejoice when it does."
I always cry when I'm rejoicing.

:)
Kids do sometimes show us the best in ourselves before the world crushes them into their mold.
I remember when I was 12 and 13 my best friends were Jewish kids and frankly we didn't see much of a difference. We played together, ate together and stayed over night at each others houses.
That's really cool, Cathar. The Jewish ideal is that someday it won't make any difference to adults, any more than it does to kids. Peace. I think it's called.

And that, by the way, will be our sign of the End Times and when we start looking around for the Messiah. As you might suspect, we're not expecting him any time soon...

More's the pity.

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cnorman18 wrote:
Cathar1950 wrote:
carolineislands wrote:
Truth_Teller wrote:
carolineislands wrote:No kidding! I cried.
It doesn´t happen too often and that´s the fact why you cried. Norman said it right, "It doesn't happen often. Let us rejoice when it does."
I always cry when I'm rejoicing.

:)
Kids do sometimes show us the best in ourselves before the world crushes them into their mold.
I remember when I was 12 and 13 my best friends were Jewish kids and frankly we didn't see much of a difference. We played together, ate together and stayed over night at each others houses.
That's really cool, Cathar. The Jewish ideal is that someday it won't make any difference to adults, any more than it does to kids. Peace. I think it's called.

And that, by the way, will be our sign of the End Times and when we start looking around for the Messiah. As you might suspect, we're not expecting him any time soon...

More's the pity.
For that matter, not all Jews expect the Messiah at all. The Reform Jews are not expecting a 'star messiah' but rather a messanic age that we all should work towards.

In the 2nd and third Century, there was debate about when the Messiah would come if at all. One opinion was the time the messiah could come was past, the
other was the messiah was Hezekiah.
“What do you think science is? There is nothing magical about science. It is simply a systematic way for carefully and thoroughly observing nature and using consistent logic to evaluate results. So which part of that exactly do you disagree with? Do you disagree with being thorough? Using careful observation? Being systematic? Or using consistent logic?�

Steven Novella

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goat wrote:
cnorman18 wrote:
Cathar1950 wrote:
carolineislands wrote:
Truth_Teller wrote:
carolineislands wrote:No kidding! I cried.
It doesn´t happen too often and that´s the fact why you cried. Norman said it right, "It doesn't happen often. Let us rejoice when it does."
I always cry when I'm rejoicing.

:)
Kids do sometimes show us the best in ourselves before the world crushes them into their mold.
I remember when I was 12 and 13 my best friends were Jewish kids and frankly we didn't see much of a difference. We played together, ate together and stayed over night at each others houses.
That's really cool, Cathar. The Jewish ideal is that someday it won't make any difference to adults, any more than it does to kids. Peace. I think it's called.

And that, by the way, will be our sign of the End Times and when we start looking around for the Messiah. As you might suspect, we're not expecting him any time soon...

More's the pity.
For that matter, not all Jews expect the Messiah at all. The Reform Jews are not expecting a 'star messiah' but rather a messanic age that we all should work towards.
I don't think that whether or not a personal Messiah shows up is important either way. Universal peace and justice are the important parts.
In the 2nd and third Century, there was debate about when the Messiah would come if at all. One opinion was the time the messiah could come was past, the
other was the messiah was Hezekiah.
It's my understanding that there is a strand of the tradition in Kabbalah that holds that the Messianic Age will begin in the Seventh, or Sabbath, Millenium, which begins with the Hebrew year 6000. Since the current year is 5768, we have about 232 years to go if that bit of mystical hoo-hah turns out to be correct.

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