Comments on the Zzyzx / Easyrider debate

[Zzyzx]

I open this thread to encourage people to express their ideas on the topics being discussed in the ZZ vs. ER debate thread.

Of course anyone can post in the original thread because one of us declined opening it in Head to Head (that would have been a controlled one-on-one debate. However, it might be more appropriate to post comments in this thread.

The "questions for debate" are:

1. Does the debate make any sense or is it a waste of time and energy?

2. Would you like to see more one-on-one debates?

3. Is the idea of a “comments on the debate thread” appealing to you?

[Goat]

The historical document is out there, has been for 2,000 years nobody has proven wrong! Feel lucky big boy? Give it a shot.

How about one that was known to have been composed more than 2700 years ago which has been written about and commented on by others since the 6th century BCE. The Mahabharata., of which the Bhagavad Gita is a part, is ostensibly an historical account of a battle betwee Arjuna and his relatives. He was having a few 'difficulties' and Krishna (funny how this ancient name for a god sounds so familiar) came to advise him. It purports to be an account of a war that happened a millennia or more before the Jesus myth was concocted.

Prove it didn't happen?

Lets take a little look at the Mahabharata.
Mahabharata, Date Written ?, Earliest Copy ?, Number of Copies ?, Accuracy of Copy 90%
New Testament, Date Written 1st Century A.D. (50-100 A.D.), Earliest Copy 2nd Century A.D. (c. 130 A.D.f.), Number of Copies 5,700, Accuracy of Copy 99.5%
The national epic of India has suffered even more textual corruption than the Iliad. The Mahabharata is some eight times the size of the Iliad, of which some 26,000 lines are in doubt. This would be roughly 10% textual corruption or a 90% accuracy copy of the original.
Compared to a 99.5% accuracy for the NT.
The great story (Mahabharata), I cannot accurately comment on because it has suffered so much textual corruption that the writing cannot be trusted for its content. The extant copies are so few that an accurate copy cannot be drawn together. My understanding is it is just a story anyway.
It is not in the same class as the New Testament because Jesus was God manifest in the flesh, and the historical record is in tact, and the NT clearly lays out Gods plan of salvation and how Jesus Christ accomplished it with details on the future culmination of all things here on earth, by Jesus.
So the two cannot be compared similar to the NT and the Iliad poem.
See my earlier post on the Iliad for more details on the supernatural accuracy of the New Testament manuscript. It is uncanny to say the least.

Biker

I'm not looking for a literary analysis.

Prove to me that the stories in the Mahbharata did not happen.

What's that? You can't'? Well blow me down.

Its not "literary analysis", its textual criticism, and the text you refer to the(Mahabharata) is so unreliable, incomplete, and compromised that one cannot with any degree of certainty trust what it says. I don't think anyone with any degree of certainty could prove that "the stories" did happen or are true? So since you brought the subject up, the burden of proof is on you. And since you constantly parrot that the New Testament is

myth

The burden of proof is also on you to back up your nonsense claim. Your teapot story is nonsense and quit reading Bertrand Russell its nonsense.
You really should start reading the Bible Bernee 51 and repent and accept the Lord Jesus Christ and stop all of that nonsense you talk about all the time.

Biker

Precisely. The teapot story is nonsense. To me, the "Jesus" story is nonsense too, as is the concept of a deity is to bernee.

You got the point, now you have to see if you can apply the point.