The Truth: The Mathematical Proof God, The Holy Trinity.

[kingiyk]

Take The Time to Review The Mathematical Proof of The One True God: The Holy Trinity.

Within this text is The Proof, beyond an ounce of doubt, by way of the language of the Universe: Mathematics, that The Triune God is The One True God and The Holy Bible is His Word.

https://trinitythetruth.github.io/ << Review Proof

[SiNcE_1985]

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Who was greater, Jesus Christ, or Pontius Pilate?

By what is said in the Bible, God is the greatest, and Jesus is the second greatest. And I agree with it.

For, "He put all things in subjection under his feet." But when he says, "All things are put in subjection," it is evident that he is excepted who subjected all things to him. When all things have been subjected to him, then the Son will also himself be subjected to him who subjected all things to him, that God may be all in all.
1 Cor. 15:27-28

Congratulations, you've just proved my point.

Reading comprehension (respectfully).

Keywords: Will also himself be.

If Jesus will be subjected to the Father, then what was he before he became subjected to the Father?

If Jesus was always subjected to the Father (as you seem to believe), then he wouldn't have to become what he always was.

So obviously, there was a point when Jesus was not subjected to the Father.

Now my question is, what was Jesus before he became subjected to the Father?

[SiNcE_1985]

That depends on the definition of greatness. Jesus said:

Matthew 11:11
Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.

Matthew 18:4
Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.

Matthew 23:11
But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.

I'm with you there.

My only point was, if we can understand how Jesus can be ontologically/intrinsically greater than Pontius Pilate, and yet still subject himself to Pilate's authority...

Then we should also be able to understand how the Father and Son can be equal to each other, yet one (Father) can be greater than the other (Son) in terms of authority, position, and/or rank.

[marke]

That depends on the definition of greatness. Jesus said:

Matthew 11:11
Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.

Matthew 18:4
Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.

Matthew 23:11
But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.

I'm with you there.

My only point was, if we can understand how Jesus can be ontologically/intrinsically greater than Pontius Pilate, and yet still subject himself to Pilate's authority...

Then we should also be able to understand how the Father and Son can be equal to each other, yet one (Father) can be greater than the other (Son) in terms of authority, position, and/or rank.

I'm not familiar with any verse in the Bible that compares God the Father and God the Son in any way to suggest one is greater than the other.

[SiNcE_1985]

I'm not familiar with any verse in the Bible that compares God the Father and God the Son in any way to suggest one is greater than the other.

John 14:28.

[servant1]

[Replying to kingiyk in post #1]


Jesus teaches clearly at John 17:3= The one who sent him= Father is THE ONLY TRUE GOD.
Paul teaches clearly at 1 Cor 8:6-- There is one God to all the Father.

Do you see a trinity in either teaching?
When ones teachers do not match Jesus and Paul= RUN FROM THEM.

[marke]

[Replying to kingiyk in post #1]


Jesus teaches clearly at John 17:3= The one who sent him= Father is THE ONLY TRUE GOD.
Paul teaches clearly at 1 Cor 8:6-- There is one God to all the Father.

Do you see a trinity in either teaching?
When ones teachers do not match Jesus and Paul= RUN FROM THEM.

Details about the Holy Trinity are generally hidden from sinners who have chosen to reject God.

[1213]

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Now my question is, what was Jesus before he became subjected to the Father?

It says: "he is excepted who subjected all things to him", which means, there is one exemption. God is the one who puts in subjection and obviously then He is the exception, because without Him it would not be possible.

[servant1]

[Replying to marke in post #36]


Maybe you missed the facts of reality=
1) Israel never served a trinity while serving the true God
2) In 381 CE at the council of Constantinople they added the holy spirit to a godhead for the very first time= recorded history fact.
3)Catholicism( 2 Thess 2:3) translated in the 4th century using a corrupted latin translation putting errors in translating, they removed Gods name as well against Gods will to mislead, to fit false council teachings such as God being a trinity. If God were a trinity Jesus would be a liar at John 17:3, and we all know he isn't the one lying.
4) In Greek, the Word( Logos) is not called capitol G God at John 1:1-- There have many translations in history by Greek scholars, with a god at John 1:1 because its correct.

[SiNcE_1985]

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Now my question is, what was Jesus before he became subjected to the Father?

It says: "he is excepted who subjected all things to him", which means, there is one exemption. God is the one who puts in subjection and obviously then He is the exception, because without Him it would not be possible.

Not sure what you are talking about here.

If Jesus became subjected to the Father, then what was he before he became subjected to the Father?

He obviously wasn't in a state of subordination, otherwise he wouldn't have to become subordinate.

Please answer the question, without the filibustering.

[SiNcE_1985]

Maybe you missed the facts of reality=
1) Israel never served a trinity while serving the true God

Syllogism test...

1. Old testament Israel never had a system of baptism, as part of their holy sacraments.

2. Therefore, Christians shouldn't baptize as part of any holy sacrament.

Non sequitur. It does not logically follow.

Test failed.

2) In 381 CE at the council of Constantinople they added the holy spirit to a godhead for the very first time= recorded history fact.

All that shows, is that they were late to the party.

3)Catholicism( 2 Thess 2:3) translated in the 4th century using a corrupted latin translation putting errors in translating, they removed Gods name as well against Gods will to mislead, to fit false council teachings such as God being a trinity.

4th century?

Jesus was called and viewed as God as early as the second century (Polycarp, Justin Martyr, Ignatius).

And the Holy Spirit was viewed as within the Truine Godhead by the Fathers as well..all before the 4th century.

If God were a trinity Jesus would be a liar at John 17:3, and we all know he isn't the one lying.

If God were a Trinity, then Yahweh would be a liar in Isa 43:11, and we all know he isn't the one lying.

4) In Greek, the Word( Logos) is not called capitol G God at John 1:1-- There have many translations in history by Greek scholars, with a god at John 1:1 because its correct.

There are so many Trinity-proof texts in the Scriptures, one can Biblically prove the Trinity doctrine without even appealing to John 1:1.