AquinasForGod wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 1:53 am
There is no evidence against the idea of God existing, so there is no way to determine if the belief is false.
Careful, this kind of reasoning will have you believing in fairies, unicorns and all sorts of other things that we have no evidence for.
These words are a weak justification for believing in any god and even worse when there is a specific god being argued for.
I do admit, for all we know, there could be millions of fairies, unicorns and gods, but I will await evidence before applying faith to justify what I have decided to believe in as faith is the pathway to all the gods. It is also a required mechanism in order to believe in something that is false, note that I'm not saying faith = false.
What is the conflicting evidence that God in general is real?
There is no evidence for the gods, to conflict. They could be real or not real, just like fairies or unicorns. I'm leaning towards them all being human inventions, how about you?
Now claimed traits of a god concept can conflict, like a perfect god making mistakes or a loving god being unloving.
Agnostic philosophers point out that atheists and theists both lack evidence to persuade them to either side.
It doesn't take a philosopher to realize that evidence cannot be provided for things that don't exist. Atheists are not proposing a thing, therefore no evidence would be required for this non thing. Religions are proposing a thing, but lets be honest, most are religions for geographical reasons and that surely would not convince a thinking atheist.
If there is no convincing evidence to persuade an agnostic to become an atheist, then there is no conflicting evidence of God existing.
If there is no evidence for the gods, conflict is impossible. No conflict suggest no evidence and no evidence suggests no gods.
This means it can be rational to believe in God. It can be rational to disbelieve in God. It depends on the reasons.
A lack of a reason to believe in a concept is reason enough to suspend belief.
Not being able to disprove something (for all we know, because it doesn't exist) is not a valid reason to form a belief that a thing is real.
Delusion is when you hold a belief that actually conflicts with evidence
Like believing that snakes/donkeys spoke, or that fish and bread were conjured, or that a man lived in the belly of a fish/whale for days, or that hundreds of dead bodies got out of their graves and walked Jerusalem and on and on?
You can give a man a fish and he will be fed for a day, or you can teach a man to pray for fish and he will starve to death.
I blame man for codifying those rules into a book which allowed superstitious people to perpetuate a barbaric practice. Rules that must be followed or face an invisible beings wrath. - KenRU
It is sad that in an age of freedom some people are enslaved by the nomads of old. - Marco
If you are unable to demonstrate that what you believe is true and you absolve yourself of the burden of proof, then what is the purpose of your arguments? - brunumb