What is homosexuality could be scientifically explained?

[Openmind]

I'm sure this has come up before, but I'm going to try it again.

I'm not suggesting that it is, but what if homosexality could be explained by different genetics and brain chemistry. There has been some research into this kind of thing. Psychologists believe human sexuality is a sliding scale, rather than a scale of absolutes:


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really gay bi-sexual really heterosexual


Everyone has the propensity to be gay. Some are just born that way. I'm not arguing that environment and sociology has no impact - I'm aware that that can also be a major factor.

But if someone was predisposed to becoming gay, then what impact would that have on the "GOD HATES GAYS!!!!" or the whole idea of homosexuality being a sin. If we could prove that genetics is what fosters homosexuality, then it clearly isn't a sin, anymore than having any other genetic difference is a sin. Now I'm not trying to suggest that homosexuality is by that ground abnormal, or a disease or disorder.

Don't come on and blast me about how wrong I am, and how it is not genetic but a choice all gays make. Use your hypothetical sense and think...what if?

[melikio]

Following this logic, we should prevent engineers from marrying engineers, blacks marrying blacks, artists marrying artists, etc.

Good point, period.

It is possibly worth another thread, but maybe people could seriously (reasonably) discuss the "negatives" of gay relationships (as they see them).

All too often, people create horrible images of what being homosexual (or behaving accordingly) is, while in reality it is nothing but negative hype. And it would be nothing to find something negative about HETEROSEXUAL relationships as well.

Human beings romanticize what they WANT to. And while I certainly understand that homosexuality is relatively unpopular, this is mainly because there are fewer homosexuals, and they are socially less open about their sexuality (even concerning those things most positive about it).

If there is something about homosexual people that appears to be neurotic, then I believe the way many human beings have dealt with homosexuality has contributed greatly to that. As far as actual "gay" relationships go, I haven't seen anything more/less negative than I've see with straight relationships. And for those who have only noticed those stereotypical, over-the-top, flamboyantly-gay homosexuals, I have to say that you really aren't paying attention to the more full spectrum of human relations and expressions.

I think it is fair to say that some aspects of human relationships can be negative (even generate victims), but there is nothing particularly "terrible" in gay relationships, that does not also have the same potential to exist in straight relationships (with the exception of enduring EXTREME prejudice from much of the rest of society).

Maybe I can't figure out the "29 Dimensions of Compatibility" that a certain company claims to regard, but I've seen enough people in relationships to know that gender is only one possible aspect that defines success/love.

-Mel-

[melikio]

"Additionally, many people continue to believe the propaganda from right-wing religious organizations that homosexuality is about nothing but sex, considering it to be merely a sexual perversion. The reality is that homosexuality is multidimensional, and is much more about love and affection than it is about sex. And this is what gay relationships are based on -- mutual attraction, love and affection. Sex, in a committed gay relationship, is merely a means of expressing that love, just the same as it is for heterosexuals. Being gay is much more profound than simply a sexual relationship; being gay is part of that person's core indentity, and goes right the very center of his being. It's like being black in a society of whites, or a blonde European in a nation of black-haired Asians. Yes, being gay is just that profound to the person who is. This is something that few heterosexuals can understand unless they are part of a minority themselves." [emphasis mine]

Most any person who is gay, will tell you that it certainly isn't all about sex. And with many who oppose homosexuality, don't even know how to consider that there IS more to being homosexual than sex itself. Many are taught/conditioned to regard the sexual acts primarily, and thus do not see why many homosexual people find their sexual-orientation to be natural AND positive. It certainly isn't always about seeking some pleasure session or randon orgasmic experience (though many both gay and straight, don't often reject such things very "loudly").

Sexual irresponsibility combined with abject promiscuity can and does tend to lead to serious societal problems, and may actually victimize many within a given community. Still, I don't see where homosexuals are particularly anymore apt to promote such a "lifestyle", than the average heterosexual person.

And a society promoting more legal unions and acceptance of gays, would likely reduce many problems with promiscuity overall.

More here: http://www.bidstrup.com/marriage.htm

[Cathar1950]

"Additionally, many people continue to believe the propaganda from right-wing religious organizations that homosexuality is about nothing but sex, considering it to be merely a sexual perversion. The reality is that homosexuality is multidimensional, and is much more about love and affection than it is about sex. And this is what gay relationships are based on -- mutual attraction, love and affection. Sex, in a committed gay relationship, is merely a means of expressing that love, just the same as it is for heterosexuals. Being gay is much more profound than simply a sexual relationship; being gay is part of that person's core indentity, and goes right the very center of his being. It's like being black in a society of whites, or a blonde European in a nation of black-haired Asians. Yes, being gay is just that profound to the person who is. This is something that few heterosexuals can understand unless they are part of a minority themselves." [emphasis mine]

Most any person who is gay, will tell you that it certainly isn't all about sex. And with many who oppose homosexuality, don't even know how to consider that there IS more to being homosexual than sex itself. Many are taught/conditioned to regard the sexual acts primarily, and thus do not see why many homosexual people find their sexual-orientation to be natural AND positive. It certainly isn't always about seeking some pleasure session or randon orgasmic experience (though many both gay and straight, don't often reject such things very "loudly").

Sexual irresponsibility combined with abject promiscuity can and does tend to lead to serious societal problems, and may actually victimize many within a given community. Still, I don't see where homosexuals are particularly anymore apt to promote such a "lifestyle", than the average heterosexual person.

And a society promoting more legal unions and acceptance of gays, would likely reduce many problems with promiscuity overall.

More here: http://www.bidstrup.com/marriage.htm

I think your right and you would think for heterosexuals it wouldn't be all about sex either. But our culture is both obsessed with sex and prudishly immature.