A Million Screaming Zulus

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A Million Screaming Zulus


King Asa defeated a million Cushites and their 300 chariots, 2 Chronicles 14:9-12.

Topic For Debate: Did this really happen? Is it historically plausible?


I know they weren't Zulus, but African warriors were said to scream as they fought and were widely feared. The ancient Cushites had the same notoriety as the Zulus had centuries later.

According to our text they were lousy strategists. They sent a million screaming Zulus, but only a meager 300 chariots.

According to historians Cush and Egypt were a united kingdom. Cush needed Egypt's grain and Egypt needed Cush's muscle. Egypt seemed perfectly content to allow the nation of Judah to exist as a buffer zone to potential northern threats, Assyria, Babylon, Persia etc. Judah was allied with Egypt. Judah needed its grain and its protection. Why would Egypt send a million screaming Zulus to obliterate Judah? Would cause unstability in the region. Seems, I don't know, ...wreckless

[JehovahsWitness]

, I think the authors were prejudiced ....

There is no doubt that the bible presents the descendants of Abraham as God's favored people however there is nothing in the bible that encourages racism or prejudice.





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PREJUDICE , HATE and ...RACISM

[JehovahsWitness]

.... the Cushites: the etymology of the Hebrew word implies the gatherers.

DOES THE ETYMOLOGY OF THE HEBREW WORD CUSH IMPLY THE GATHERER?



source : https://www.abarim-publications.com/Mea ... ds%20Black.

Etymology and biblical use

The word is a derivation of Cush (כּוּשׁ‎ Kūš), referring to the ancient Kingdom of Kush which was centered on the Upper Nile and Nubia (modern-day Sudan). Mentioned in the Hebrew Bible, Cushites are considered descendants of Noah's grandson, Cush the son of Ham. In biblical and historical usage, the term "Cushites" (Hamites) refers to individuals of East African origin (Horn of Africa and Sudan).[1]

Source : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cushi#: ... nd%20Sudan).

[JehovahsWitness]

DOES ISAIAH 18 CONDEMN THE EHTIOPIANS FOR THEIR DARK SKIN?

The Hebrew bible contains several condemnations of nations that had proved hostile to God's people. These were not based on skin colour or nationality but were divine judgement based on actions and attitudes. Amongst them the Ethiopians who had launched unprovoked attacks on Israel.

RACISM

prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized

CONCLUSION The basis of the condemnation of Isaiah 18 was not that they had dark skin or were Ethiopians per se but because, according to the Hebrew narrative, as a nation they and acted wickedly. Thus it does not constitute racism in the strict meaning of the term.

[JehovahsWitness]

DOES ISAIAH CHAPTER 18 VERSES 1-7 CONTAIN RACISTE SLURS?

Hebrew as a language (and Hebrew poetry in particular of which this passage is arguably an example) is very "visually inspired" , leaning heavily on metaphor and simile. With this in mind, the verses in question can be interpreted in many ways and those determined to superimpose a raciste slant to a non-raciste description can, no doubt do so.

Woe to the land of whirring insect wings /In the region of the rivers of Ethiopia! - Isaiah 18:1 NWT (various other translations : https://biblehub.com/isaiah/18-1.htm)

• While some may conclude the writer is calling the Ethiopian people "lowly bugs" a more contextually sound conclusions is an allusion to the swarms of insects native to the land
  

  NOTE The writer focuses on the sound of the wings of the insect not the insect themselves.

  Various interpretations are this is a metaphor for their vast numbers, their military force or to the sails of their boats . Whatever the case the context is clearly not on repulsive uselessness or lowly position but on fearsome force or swift movement,
  
  NOTE Is 18v2
  

  Go, you swift messengers, To a tall and smooth-skinned nation*, To a people feared everywhere, To a strong, conquering nation, whose land is washed away by rivers.

  For more commentaries on Is 18v1 see link --> https://biblehub.com/commentaries/isaiah/18-1.htm

[Tcg]

There is no doubt that the bible presents the descendants of Abraham as God's favored people however there is nothing in the bible that encourages racism or prejudice.

Of course there is:

Leviticus 25
44 “‘Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. 45 You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. 46 You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.


Tcg

[BrotherBerry]

.... the Cushites: the etymology of the Hebrew word implies the gatherers.

DOES THE ETYMOLOGY OF THE HEBREW WORD CUSH IMPLY THE GATHERER?



source : https://www.abarim-publications.com/Mea ... ds%20Black.

Etymology and biblical use

The word is a derivation of Cush (כּוּשׁ‎ Kūš), referring to the ancient Kingdom of Kush which was centered on the Upper Nile and Nubia (modern-day Sudan). Mentioned in the Hebrew Bible, Cushites are considered descendants of Noah's grandson, Cush the son of Ham. In biblical and historical usage, the term "Cushites" (Hamites) refers to individuals of East African origin (Horn of Africa and Sudan).[1]

Source : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cushi#: ... nd%20Sudan).

Studylight.org Strong's 3568 Cush=black. Strong's 6983 Qush=gather, to trap
Bibletools.org Strong's 3568 Cush=black Strong's 6983 Qush=gather, to trap
Biblehub.com Strong's 3568 Cush=black Strong's 6983 Qush=gather to trap


Cush and Qush are pronounced the same, Koosh. Sometimes used interchangingly.

I don't think King Asa was racist. He killed a million Cushites because God helped him destroy them. Hope this helps you. Why you have movie pictures in here? Are those movies about the Bible?

[BrotherBerry]

Also yall forgetting how Moses was married to a Cushite, Numbers 12:1.

[JehovahsWitness]

There is no doubt that the bible presents the descendants of Abraham as God's favored people however there is nothing in the bible that encourages racism or prejudice.

Of course there is:

Leviticus 25
44 “‘Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. 45 You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. 46 You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.


Tcg

What do you prejudicial or racist in the above ? (I see nothing)

[JehovahsWitness]

.... the Cushites: the etymology of the Hebrew word implies the gatherers.

DOES THE ETYMOLOGY OF THE HEBREW WORD CUSH IMPLY THE GATHERER?



source : https://www.abarim-publications.com/Mea ... ds%20Black.

Etymology and biblical use

The word is a derivation of Cush (כּוּשׁ‎ Kūš), referring to the ancient Kingdom of Kush which was centered on the Upper Nile and Nubia (modern-day Sudan). Mentioned in the Hebrew Bible, Cushites are considered descendants of Noah's grandson, Cush the son of Ham. In biblical and historical usage, the term "Cushites" (Hamites) refers to individuals of East African origin (Horn of Africa and Sudan).[1]

Source : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cushi#: ... nd%20Sudan).

Studylight.org Strong's 3568 Cush=black. Strong's 6983 Qush=gather, to trap
Bibletools.org Strong's 3568 Cush=black Strong's 6983 Qush=gather, to trap
Biblehub.com Strong's 3568 Cush=black Strong's 6983 Qush=gather to trap

Do you have a clickable link because none of my searches mention gathering...

https://www.studylight.org/lexicons/eng ... /3568.html

VERB - QUSH
https://openbible.com/strongs/hebrew/6983.htm

https://www.bibletools.org/index.cfm/fu ... 68/nun.htm

https://biblehub.com/hebrew/6983.htm

3568
https://biblehub.com/hebrew/3568.htm

[Tcg]

There is no doubt that the bible presents the descendants of Abraham as God's favored people however there is nothing in the bible that encourages racism or prejudice.

Of course there is:

Leviticus 25
44 “‘Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. 45 You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. 46 You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.


Tcg

What do you prejudicial or racist in the above ? (I see nothing)

This should help your vision:




Tcg