Does intelligence need to be redefined?

[Difflugia]

Does intelligence need to be redefined?

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[The Barbarian]

Neither Khelif nor Lin identify as transgender or as having been born with a male body. According to a fact check from GLAAD, there is no indication Khelif has ever identified as transgender or as intersex.

Self-identification is an utter sham. There is no credible basis for people being able to deny reality and identify as whatever they like. It is irrelevant that the two boxers never identified as trans. They were incorrectly identified as female at birth and raised accordingly. At puberty the truth would have emerged. How they responded to that appears to be to maintain their female identity regardless.

The vast majority of people claiming to be trans are transvestites or autogynophiles. Very few genuinely suffer from gender dysphoria who can be considered as actual transsexuals. Gender ideology has encouraged all of the narcissists and kink fetishists to come out of the woodwork with the misguided support of those who consider themselves to be caring and sharing. Hopefully the Trump administration will help to re-establish the fact that there are only two sexes and sweep away as much as possible of the depravity that was encouraged by the Biden administration.

This all could be cleared up by a cheek swab. A Russian sports organization claims Khelif has a Y chromosome, but declined to show the results of the testing, if there was any. I'm pretty sure why that's the case. Could be wrong, though.

[The Barbarian]

Leftists hate women.

Last time I checked, most leftists are women. Try again?

They love to send heaving breathing male perverts

Why would you want to drag Donald Trump into this?

Trump is not fighting like the devil for the evil 'right' of male perverts to show their junk to little girls taking showers.

Courts have found that he sexually assaults women; he was even caught on a live microphone bragging about it. That's a pervert, don't you think? Last time I looked, it was almost entirely heterosexual men molesting little kids. You have an example of a trans person doing that?

Looking over the issue, it seems that the biggest problem is men with a conflicted fascination with trans people.

No matter what rich and famous movie stars, businessmen, preachers, or politicians have done, Trump is not on the political side of the aisle whose members are fighting like the devil to allow male gawkers into little girls shower rooms.

Trump and his buddy Epstein preferred to put little girls on planes to his private island.

“I’ve known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy,” Mr. Trump told New York magazine in 2002. “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/09/us/p ... stein.html

They didn't just gawk, you know.

Last time I looked, it was almost entirely heterosexual men molesting little kids. You have an example of a trans person doing that? Looking over the issue, it seems that the biggest problem is men with a conflicted fascination with trans people.

Which if either of the two following is an unproven false allegation?

Bill Clinton had a lengthy questionable relationship with Epstein that suggested they both shared similar abuses of young girls.
Donald Trump was frequently seen at Epstein's establishments or was frequently seen flying aboard Epstein's plane to questionable destinations.

Neither is. Clinton is better than Trump only in that there are no proven cases of Clinton actually sexually assaulting females, and none of Epstein's underage victims accused Clinton of rape (one did accuse Trump). "Less creepy than Trump" doesn't mean Clinton isn't still a creep. He tends to get a pass because he did a competent job as president. Not from me.

[marke]

Leftists hate women.

Last time I checked, most leftists are women. Try again?

They love to send heaving breathing male perverts

Why would you want to drag Donald Trump into this?

Trump is not fighting like the devil for the evil 'right' of male perverts to show their junk to little girls taking showers.

Courts have found that he sexually assaults women; he was even caught on a live microphone bragging about it. That's a pervert, don't you think? Last time I looked, it was almost entirely heterosexual men molesting little kids. You have an example of a trans person doing that?

Looking over the issue, it seems that the biggest problem is men with a conflicted fascination with trans people.

No matter what rich and famous movie stars, businessmen, preachers, or politicians have done, Trump is not on the political side of the aisle whose members are fighting like the devil to allow male gawkers into little girls shower rooms.

Trump and his buddy Epstein preferred to put little girls on planes to his private island.

“I’ve known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy,” Mr. Trump told New York magazine in 2002. “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/09/us/p ... stein.html

They didn't just gawk, you know.

Last time I looked, it was almost entirely heterosexual men molesting little kids. You have an example of a trans person doing that? Looking over the issue, it seems that the biggest problem is men with a conflicted fascination with trans people.

Which if either of the two following is an unproven false allegation?

Bill Clinton had a lengthy questionable relationship with Epstein that suggested they both shared similar abuses of young girls.
Donald Trump was frequently seen at Epstein's establishments or was frequently seen flying aboard Epstein's plane to questionable destinations.

Neither is. Clinton is better than Trump only in that there are no proven cases of Clinton actually sexually assaulting females, and none of Epstein's underage victims accused Clinton of rape (one did accuse Trump). "Less creepy than Trump" doesn't mean Clinton isn't still a creep. He tends to get a pass because he did a competent job as president. Not from me.

No accusation against Trump with regards to Epstein has been judged credible, but many accusations of Bill Clinton's flights on Epstein's jet have been judged credible.

[The Barbarian]

No accusation against Trump with regards to Epstein has been judged credible, but many accusations of Bill Clinton's flights on Epstein's jet have been judged credible.

In fact, Trump was found by a court to have sexually assaulted a woman. He got caught bragging about getting away with sexual assault on a live microphone. Trump, like Clinton, is known to have made many flights on Epstein's jets. While it has not been proven that the underage girl who accused Trump of molesting her is truthful, no such accusations by Epstein's other victims have been made against Clinton.

Clinton is a creep; there's just no evidence that he commits sexual assault as Trump does (and boasts about doing).

[marke]

No accusation against Trump with regards to Epstein has been judged credible, but many accusations of Bill Clinton's flights on Epstein's jet have been judged credible.

In fact, Trump was found by a court to have sexually assaulted a woman. He got caught bragging about getting away with sexual assault on a live microphone. Trump, like Clinton, is known to have made many flights on Epstein's jets. While it has not been proven that the underage girl who accused Trump of molesting her is truthful, no such accusations by Epstein's other victims have been made against Clinton.

Clinton is a creep; there's just no evidence that he commits sexual assault as Trump does (and boasts about doing).

Trump has been accused by dirt-digging democrats of talking dirty one time decades ago before he entered politics. Big deal. At least he was not having sex with employees inside the WH like Bill Clinton and Joe Biden did.

[The Barbarian]

No accusation against Trump with regards to Epstein has been judged credible, but many accusations of Bill Clinton's flights on Epstein's jet have been judged credible.

In fact, Trump was found by a court to have sexually assaulted a woman. He got caught bragging about getting away with sexual assault on a live microphone. Trump, like Clinton, is known to have made many flights on Epstein's jets. While it has not been proven that the underage girl who accused Trump of molesting her is truthful, no such accusations by Epstein's other victims have been made against Clinton.

Clinton is a creep; there's just no evidence that he commits sexual assault as Trump does (and boasts about doing).

Trump has been accused by dirt-digging democrats of talking dirty one time decades ago before he entered politics.

Trump was bragging that he could get away with sexual assault because he was "a star." I don't think the board would allow me to quote what he said exactly, but he boasted that he would just go up to women and grab their genitals without consequences because he was famous. That's not just "dirty", it's the boast of a pervert and sexual predator. A court later found that he had done exactly what he bragged about doing.

Big deal.

For decent adults it is. However, when it became known, about 22% of his supporters, when polled, said that they actually liked him better because of it. It seems to be a MAGA thing; normal people don't get it.

At least he was not having sex with employees inside the WH

By that time, he was too old and obese to really do much. However, he did commit adultery frequently, betraying three wives in turn. Except for the first, I don't have much sympathy for them; if he'd cheat on his existing wife with them, they should have had the brains to realize that he'd cheat on them as well after they had married him.

like Bill Clinton and Joe Biden did.

I don't find any record of Biden doing that at all, much less in the WH. Got a checkable link?

[marke]

No accusation against Trump with regards to Epstein has been judged credible, but many accusations of Bill Clinton's flights on Epstein's jet have been judged credible.

In fact, Trump was found by a court to have sexually assaulted a woman. He got caught bragging about getting away with sexual assault on a live microphone. Trump, like Clinton, is known to have made many flights on Epstein's jets. While it has not been proven that the underage girl who accused Trump of molesting her is truthful, no such accusations by Epstein's other victims have been made against Clinton.

Clinton is a creep; there's just no evidence that he commits sexual assault as Trump does (and boasts about doing).

Trump has been accused by dirt-digging democrats of talking dirty one time decades ago before he entered politics.

Trump was bragging that he could get away with sexual assault because he was "a star." I don't think the board would allow me to quote what he said exactly, but he boasted that he would just go up to women and grab their genitals without consequences because he was famous. That's not just "dirty", it's the boast of a pervert and sexual predator. A court later found that he had done exactly what he bragged about doing.

Big deal.

For decent adults it is. However, when it became known, about 22% of his supporters, when polled, said that they actually liked him better because of it. It seems to be a MAGA thing; normal people don't get it.

At least he was not having sex with employees inside the WH

By that time, he was too old and obese to really do much. However, he did commit adultery frequently, betraying three wives in turn. Except for the first, I don't have much sympathy for them; if he'd cheat on his existing wife with them, they should have had the brains to realize that he'd cheat on them as well after they had married him.

like Bill Clinton and Joe Biden did.

I don't find any record of Biden doing that at all, much less in the WH. Got a checkable link?

Democrats minimize the flaws of corrupt democrats and maximize the flaws or level false accusations against republicans. Along with a long history of voting fraud, that is the common democrat way.

[The Barbarian]

Democrats minimize the flaws of corrupt democrats and maximize the flaws or level false accusations against republicans.

My goodness. And you're telling us that republicans don't? Seriously? C'mon.

Along with a long history of voting fraud, that is the common democrat way.

There have been a pack of people indicted for election fraud. Want to make a guess as to the proportion of democrats to republicans? If you don't know or want to hazard a guess, I'll post some evidence for you. What do you have?

[marke]

Democrats minimize the flaws of corrupt democrats and maximize the flaws or level false accusations against republicans.

My goodness. And you're telling us that republicans don't? Seriously? C'mon.

Along with a long history of voting fraud, that is the common democrat way.

There have been a pack of people indicted for election fraud. Want to make a guess as to the proportion of democrats to republicans? If you don't know or want to hazard a guess, I'll post some evidence for you. What do you have?

Voting fraud is rarely prosecuted and then usually only for the lesser infractions that crooks fail to successfully keep hidden.