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Star Wars: The Force Awakens

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Anyone seen it? Is it as good as the critics are making it out to be?

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I suspect that were are not connecting because I don't agree with what you say. Such as your generalizations of genres like science fiction and horror for example.

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bluethread wrote:
Tired of the Nonsense wrote:
WinePusher wrote: Anyone seen it? Is it as good as the critics are making it out to be?
None of the Star wars films have ever been as fresh and exciting as the first one. I doubt that any new film will ever be able to capture that sort of magic again. With that said, the new Star Wars film is worth seeing, if for no other reason than the joy of rediscovering Han Solo and Chewbacca all over again. The entire audience cheered when they first turned up.
It is important to note that the late 70's were a golden age for movies. Industrial Light and Magic, Rocky, Alien, Dolby Stereo, Airport, Earthquake . . . This combination of eye and ear candy made complicated story lines and intense acting unnecessary. It also lead to a golden age of parody in the 80's. This created a great sense of nostalgia in the late boomers and early Gen X. In the 40 years since then . . . , WOW has it been 40 years? . . . , the movie going public has become rather jaded as entertainment has become more personal in the information age. People expect more than good effects and loud noises these days.
I fully agree. With a nod to the 30's, the 70's is my favorite decade for movies. Thirties movies were stylish and charming, but in the 70's film makers really hit their stride as great story tellers.
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Re: Star Wars: The Force Awakens

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help3434 wrote: [Replying to post 1 by WinePusher]

I really liked it but it is very derivative of A New Hope and Empire Strikes back. Hopefully now that they have established that this new trilogy will be more like the original trilogy than the bad prequel trilogy Disney will have more confidence to tell their own story for the next installment.
I finally saw it and I have to say I totally agree with what you said about it paralleling A New Hope. I suppose it was good...it's just difficult for me get into this movie that has completely new characters in it, with only brief (and tragic) appearances of the original crew, Leia, Han and Luke.

At least in the prequels the characters were not completely brand new, with no connection to the original story. You had young Anakin, young Obi Wan, the antagonist was the Emperor disguised as a politician, etc. But with this installment the protagonists and antagonists were completely new...

New is usually better, but not in this case where the movie already has iconic characters. They should've ended the franchise with episode III.

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Re: Star Wars: The Force Awakens

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WinePusher wrote:
At least in the prequels the characters were not completely brand new, with no connection to the original story. You had young Anakin, young Obi Wan
I thought those were crap characters in the prequel trilogy (Palpatine was fun though). In contrast in Force Awakens we have likable new characters, as well as having Harrison Ford do a great job portraying Han Solo again.

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