why does God create physically handicapped children?

[sin_is_fun]

Why does God create physically handicapped children?Why do they suffer from birth?why are other children created with Good health and born in Good families while the unlucky are born as destitutes,orphans and as physically handicapped children?

what is the religious explanation for this?

[Curious]

Yes,its God who assigns a soul to a body and thus its god who creates imbeciles and blind people.

Says who? How do you know this? Didn't I have a choice of body that I could enter? Stop blaming God, make the most of what you have and fulfil your promise.

[McCulloch]

Yes,its God who assigns a soul to a body and thus its god who creates imbeciles and blind people.

Says who? How do you know this? Didn't I have a choice of body that I could enter? Stop blaming God, make the most of what you have and fulfil your promise.

I did not know that christian theology included a pre-life as well as an after-life. I guess there is about the same amount of evidence for either.

[sin_is_fun]

Says who? How do you know this? Didn't I have a choice of body that I could enter? Stop blaming God, make the most of what you have and fulfil your promise.

says bible.

Ecclesiastes 12:7

And the dust returns to the ground it came from, and the spirit returns to God who gave it.

In Genesis 2:7 God breathed the breath of life into Adam

Genesis 2:7 - states that Man was created as a living soul.

[Curious]

says bible.

Ecclesiastes 12:7

And the dust returns to the ground it came from, and the spirit returns to God who gave it.

In Genesis 2:7 God breathed the breath of life into Adam

Genesis 2:7 - states that Man was created as a living soul.

But your claim appears to be that God personally chooses the body for a soul to "inhabit". I could give money to charity but I don't pick which person or project gets that particular money.

[Curious]

I did not know that christian theology included a pre-life as well as an after-life. I guess there is about the same amount of evidence for either.

There are many different philosophies within "Christianity". I do concede though that there is precious little evidence concerning either outside of blind belief in the Bible or other texts. Unfortunately, the lack of evidence is often taken as a test of faith and actually supports some people's beliefs, however absurd they may seem.

[sin_is_fun]

[quote="Curious]
But your claim appears to be that God personally chooses the body for a soul to "inhabit". I could give money to charity but I don't pick which person or project gets that particular money.[/quote]

Yes.'God breathes life into adam' means God created soul and body of adam.Then he breathed his soul into it.That is what Bible says.

Genesis says man was 'created as a living soul'.This means creation of body,soul and sending the body into the soul.God also sends the soul into the body"God breathed life to adam".

Creation means doing everything.God doesnt outsource part of his job to somebody else.

[Curious]

Yes.'God breathes life into adam' means God created soul and body of adam.Then he breathed his soul into it.That is what Bible says.

Genesis says man was 'created as a living soul'.This means creation of body,soul and sending the body into the soul.God also sends the soul into the body"God breathed life to adam".

Creation means doing everything.God doesnt outsource part of his job to somebody else.

I suppose if you take a literal view of the Genesis this would be a reasonable assumption. Genesis is not meant to be taken literally though and Adam is not a single entity but a symbolic representation of mankind. If you accept the veracity of the literal Genesis account then you might believe that God issues souls personally. You say God does not outsource but does everything Himself, excluding Jesus can you tell me when the last virgin birth was or is that part left to us?

[otseng]

But that doesnt justify creating blind children and imbeciles.

Again, you never proved your assertion that God creates blind children.

Yes,its God who assigns a soul to a body and thus its god who creates imbeciles and blind people.

The soul and the physical body are two separate things. The physical body can be described as having "imperfections". Yet the soul cannot. And as I've mentioned earlier, there are many natural reasons to explain for physical handicaps. None of which have God as a direct cause.

So, the only argument left is that God assigns a soul to a handicapped person. But again, what other alternative is there? And also, being handicapped is not necessarily a bad thing. As I've demonstrated, it's possible for a blind person to live a very meaningful life.

On a side note. I find it interesting that people can quite easily attribute the cause of "bad" things to God and blame him for them. Yet, deny that God is the cause of anything else, particularly anything that is "good". But, I'll save that discussion for another thread.

Almighty God will defenitely have various alternatives to stop this.

What are the alternatives?

God by giving freewill makes us suffer the consequences.

I'll have to start a thread on this. But briefly, there is but no other choice than to give us freewill if we are to be able to love. Of course we can suffer from bad decisions. But, we can also experience joy from good decisions. Only by having freewill can this be possible.

But what did the child do do deserve such a cruel punishment?

What cruel punishment are you referring to?

You are comparing everything to what the "ideal" should be like. But, there is no ideal on earth.

What did I do to deserve the cruel punishment of being born Asian and raised in the deep south? Why did I have to be the brunt of racist remarks? Why couldn't I have just grown up in Taiwan where I would've been accepted for my skin color? But, actually, though I've experienced "suffering", it has actually made me a more understanding person. It is a major reason that I believe people should respect others regardless of race, religion, or any superficial criteria. And without my strong belief in respect for all, I highly doubt this forum would even exist as it is. So, though I've gone through some degree of suffering, meaning can come out of it.

Some physically handicapped suffer and still remain atheists.

Of course. But, the Bible offers hope for these whereas atheism offers no hope.

So he does have a say in deciding whether a child is blind or healthy.

So, all blind babies should be still born?

The omnipotent God surely must have a fair way of determining what is the cut off limit for physical disability.

I'll simply say that such a cutoff does not exist. Conjoined twins can be happy. Quadraplegics can live meaningful lives. Autistic people can be productive.

Christianity offers hope and meaning to those who suffer. It deals with the raw reality of life and accepts that life on this earth is full of suffering. And the way that Christians are to deal with suffering is to offer hope, not to blame things or to say that their life is not worth living.

The greatest example of this was the life of Jesus. He ministered to and healed the outcast of society. He gave hope to those who were "poor in spirit and those that mourn". He demonstrated his love and acceptance to those who are shunned by society.

Psalms 98:9 Before the LORD; for he cometh to judge the earth: with righteousness shall he judge the world, and the people with equity.

Equity is in regards to the judgement of the law.

Romans 2:11 For God does not show favoritism.

Here also, the context is in reference to judgement by the law.

Rom 2:3 And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God?

Rom 2:12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;

So, God will be "fair" in regards to judgement. This is what "just" signifies. But in regards to things outside of the law and judgement, I do not see anywhere in the Bible that describes God as fair.

[Cathar1950]

sin_is_fun wrote:

Why does God create physically handicapped children?Why do they suffer from birth?why are other children created with Good health and born in Good families while the unlucky are born as destitutes,orphans and as physically handicapped children?
what is the religious explanation for this?

God runs out of parts? Ok let us pretend God does all this stuff.
Or does God? Destitutes are created in our cultures and societies. Why do we have children that are destitute? It seems the question Should be why do we allow it. Blaming it on God seems like we are passing the buck.
Orphans are created when parents die. we all die some one is going to be an orphan just by chance alone. Then it seems people kill people and make orphans all the time. When Ezra can to Jerusalem he had every one(by the command of God) and the Persian messiah leave their wives that were not Jewish. Instant orphans. Handicapped children? I don't know But usually they are loved(by their parents I hope) so are they really Handicapped? I think it is part of evolution adaptation. We have to have the ability to adapt sometimes it goes wrong. I don't belive God is punishing any one or their parents even if it says so in the Bible it also says God doesn't. Take your pick.
sin_is_fun wrote:

Yes,its God who assigns a soul to a body and thus its god who creates imbeciles and blind people.

Do you really think God is handing out souls to bodies? I think the soul is developed. But I think some Republicans are blind imbecials. But that is politics.
McCulloch wrote:

I did not know that christian theology included a pre-life as well as an after-life. I guess there is about the same amount of evidence for either.

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That is what I was trying to say above. You can get at least two or three opinions from the Bible alone.
sin_is_fun wrote:

Creation means doing everything.God doesnt outsource part of his job to somebody else.

When did you become a creationist? Have you been sneaking around?
In some sources God out sources. Sometimes the Satan did his dirty work.
In Job it was kind of a testing game. I wonder if anyone made wagers?
I think God is doing the best God can.
otseng wrote:

The soul and the physical body are two separate things. The physical body can be described as having "imperfections". Yet the soul cannot. And as I've mentioned earlier, there are many natural reasons to explain for physical handicaps. None of which have God as a direct cause.

Even if it seems kind of dualist because I am not sure they are two different things. You are right some live very meaningful lives.
Some perfect people don't. I belive a perfectionist is a person with just one more fault.

You are comparing everything to what the "ideal" should be like. But, there is no ideal on earth.

Bingo! Do you think it is Plato's fault?

[lifeisboring]

That's simple. Each and every deformed child is a warning to the rest of us. If we were all perfect tall/blond/blue-eyed people, we wouldn't have anything to look at and worry about. However, if every once in a while you give an infant a disease such as PHK that makes a great deal of the food that we eat toxic, it helps keep enough worry in the world that the 10% cut keeps coming in, and keeps the churches full.

Would God really make his children suffer just to teach others a lesson? If so, that's a messed-up God right there.