Evolutionist Discrimination in Public Education.

[jcrawford]

There are currently five categories which the U.S. legally recognizes in which persons may voluntarily identify and classify themselves as, according to their self-evident, self-recognized and self-identified common ancestral racial traits of national and geographic origins. None of these categories are Homo sapiens.

http://atlas.usafa.af.mil/meo/Discri~1.htm

http://www.withylaw.com/distopic.htm

http://www.wvf.state.wv.us/eeo/NO.htm

http://mountain-prairie.fws.gov/dcr/Basis.htm

http://www.niehs.nih.gov/oeeo/national.htm

As far as the U.S. legal system is concerned, there does not seem to be any legally protected class of persons called Homo sapiens or any ancestral category of persons named Homo erectus from whom Homo sapiens are believed by neo-Darwinists to have descended.

Since it may reasonably be considered to be a violation of their civil rights to have their human ancestors related to, or called, anything other than what the U.S. Government recognizes as legally protected classes of persons, I respectfully submit that teachers and students in U.S. public school systems who publically volunteer to self-identify and self-classify themselves as members of any of the legally recognized and protected classes of persons established by law, may not be involuntarily labeled and classified as Homo sapiens in public schools without their written consent or the written consent of their parents or legal guardians.

Otherwise, if state governments continue to mandate and impose evolutionary neo-Darwinist beliefs and teachings about the human ancestry of the five legitimate racial catagories in which students and teachers have voluntarily chosen to identify and classify themselves as, then public school students and teachers have every right to sue the state for civil rights violations and a redress of racial and ancestral grievances.

[steen]

So all 5 racial groups in America could all evolve into one or five new species at the same time.

No.

What a bizarre theory.

Well, as it only exists in your overheated mind, I tend to agree.

[steen]

J, I just don't think you understand.
Steen wrote:

At least among hominids. There are cases like this:
http://www.nmsr.org/nylon.htm

Clear example of a single mutation resulting in a new species.

No kidding, cool. Thanks for the link. Very interesting.

Genetic mutations occur in bacteria all the time but bacteria never evolve into into a living cell.

This got to be the most ignorant claim if the day. Bacteria ARE cells. You know, John, you simply are to ignorant and to dishonest to be worth the effort of these discussions.

Genetic mutations occur in Human beings all the time but Human beings never evolve into another species.

Ah, another Johnism, another"because I say so" ignorant postulation.

[steen]

JC said:

Genetic mutations occur in bacteria all the time but bacteria never evolve into into a living cell.

Bacteria are living cells already.

No, they are not. Living cells consist of much more than a few bacteria, according to Michael Behe, at least.

Really? Now you are lying about behe? I am sure Behe doesn't appreciate being shown to be acomplete idiot like you just did. Bacteria are live cells. Your claim is so stupid that it rivals the one up above that you uttered before, but I guess they kind of are together.

Are you a bio-chemist now, Grumpy?

Actually, the experts on cell life are biologists. And yes, bacteria are live cells.

John, this is gradeschool stuff. You can not possibly know this? Were you homeschooled by fundie rightwing nuts or something like that? How else could you NOT know that bacteria are cells? This is just6 to bizzare, It is to stupid. Almost as if yo7u are trying to give creationists a bad name of being stupid, moronic idiots? (hmm, that would explain your posts, though)

[steen]

Just because bacteria attack living organisms

Not all of them do.

doesn't necessarily imply that they are living organisms like a living cell which can replicate itself.

Bacteria are living cells that VERY MUCH replicate themselves.

[steen]

I appreciate your bacterial expertise, Grumpy, but how do bacteria evolve into cells, the smallest unit of a living organism?

You got to be dumber than snot. grumpy's artile above showed that bacteria ARE cells.

Yes, there is no other solution, folks. John is a mole. he post as a creationists in order to come accross as so increduibly stupid that everybody will laugh at any creationist. He is deliberately trying to make creationists look like they are dumber than a rock.

There simply is no other explanation here.

[Cathar1950]

steen wrote:

Yes, there is no other solution, folks. John is a mole. he post as a creationists in order to come accross as so increduibly stupid that everybody will laugh at any creationist. He is deliberately trying to make creationists look like they are dumber than a rock.

Interesting theory and it does have some merit compared to some of what I have read. But who would plant him here or anywhere? I find it hard to believe an evolutionist would need to do it and creationist would seem to shy away from the obvious thick skull. I suspect the home schooling scenario is better. But it seems that some kind of arian racist mentality is at work. It kind of reminds me of a show on Jerry Springer.
They had all these people and women who were breeding for the arian race. I thought wow that is really going to hurt the gene pool. Of course I don't like the show and I think they make the stuff up and the guests are out of work want to be actors.

[otseng]

You got to be dumber than snot. grumpy's artile above showed that bacteria ARE cells.

Yes, there is no other solution, folks. John is a mole. he post as a creationists in order to come accross as so increduibly stupid that everybody will laugh at any creationist. He is deliberately trying to make creationists look like they are dumber than a rock.

Please do not make any comments on other posters. You may attack arguments, but attacking other posters is prohibited. If people make bad arguments, please use only logic and evidence to counter the arguments. Thanks.

[steen]

Interesting theory and it does have some merit compared to some of what I have read. But who would plant him here or anywhere? I find it hard to believe an evolutionist would need to do it and creationist would seem to shy away from the obvious thick skull. I suspect the home schooling scenario is better. But it seems that some kind of arian racist mentality is at work. It kind of reminds me of a show on Jerry Springer.
They had all these people and women who were breeding for the arian race. I thought wow that is really going to hurt the gene pool. Of course I don't like the show and I think they make the stuff up and the guests are out of work want to be actors.

You know what he reminds me off?

"Desotobul" on the .... Well, the name escapes me, but it was something like the thinker's forum or something.

Also on the delphi forums, there was this guy who posted under at least 50 aliases all over, zhwang, Professorr, vegangorrilla etc. The general conclusion on him was that he was some kind of mix of zooasterism and norse mythology with a bit of "aryan" superiority included

[Cathar1950]

otseng, can we say some ideas are dumber then snot?
How do you debate ideas that fall short of ideas?

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