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Are Atheists Just Imaginary

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In light of the overwhelming attempt to kill God by the most atheist I thought I'd post up this link for those who would like to look into the minds of some atheist.

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fisherofmen wrote:I'm new here and maybe shouldn't speak up just yet, but this post caught my eye. I feel that-
A: God can't be killed. Satan is the most powerful evil spirit, next to God's power, and Satan doesn't hold a candle to the power of God.
B: I don't believe Atheist are in total disbelief of God or they wouldn't keep fighting him so much.
Atheists don't fight god. That again would be futile, fighting something not considered real. They fight theists, or the ideas of theists. To use your notions of power, god is powerless against atheism. One cannot fight what does not exist.
C: Kind of goes back to the OQ. Maybe they aren't as imaginary as they are perhaps unwilling to commit themselves to a spirit who some know or feel is and always has been control all along? Which may be frightening.

With each page of the bible I turn, each day I have a new fear. I won't lie, the bible has struck fear in me numerous times, but I want (one day) to be the man God approves of. It's extremely tough work. But if you don't believe in Gods promises, you wouldn't waste a minute on it I suppose. But kill God, beg your pardon I don't want to offend but I found that amusing at best. A being that can move mountains and raise the dead and level cities isn't gonna be bumped off by a handful of mortals. IMHO
Good luck with your endeavor of becoming what God might approve. From what I've seen, the feedback is lousy, and generally through someone who's always going to find you lacking from their human perspective.
If all the ignorance in the world passed a second ago, what would you say? Who would you obey?

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Welcome to the forum Fisherofmen. Are you a professional fisher of men – a cleric?
fisherofmen wrote: With each page of the bible I turn, each day I have a new fear. I won't lie, the bible has struck fear in me numerous times,
Can someone explain why one would choose to live in fear? Why worship a “god” that causes such fear? Is the purpose to achieve “heaven” in an “afterlife”?

I cannot imagine deliberately choosing to live in fear. Many of us live free of religion and the fears it brings.

Could living in fear of gods restrict decision making and thinking abilities????
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Zzyzx wrote: Can someone explain why one would choose to live in fear?
In a general sense I would say it is because the object of fear has the power to harm the one that is fearful.
Zzyzx wrote:Why worship a “god” that causes such fear?

Why worship a god that is powerless to to make one fearful?
Zzyzx wrote:I cannot imagine deliberately choosing to live in fear.
When you are having a fearful dream is your fear deliberate act of your will?
Zzyzx wrote:Many of us live free of religion and the fears it brings.
Indeed we do!
Zzyzx wrote:Could living in fear of gods restrict decision making
If it didn't, it wouldn't really be fear would it?

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Fisherking wrote:
Zzyzx wrote: Can someone explain why one would choose to live in fear?
In a general sense I would say it is because the object of fear has the power to harm the one that is fearful.
Since the “object of fear” cannot be shown to exist and since one chooses to live in fear, the question remains; “Why CHOOSE to live in fear?

Is the choice of a god similar to choosing to follow a Mafia chief because one fears him?
Fisherking wrote:
Zzyzx wrote:Why worship a “god” that causes such fear?

Why worship a god that is powerless to to make one fearful?


Nice dodge of the question.
Fisherking wrote:
Zzyzx wrote:I cannot imagine deliberately choosing to live in fear.
When you are having a fearful dream is your fear deliberate act of your will?
I have no opinion regarding whether a fearful dream is a deliberate act of will.

I do not study dreams nor structure my life around dreams, visions or delusions, and thus do not become concerned about such matters.
Fisherking wrote:
Zzyzx wrote:Many of us live free of religion and the fears it brings.
Indeed we do!
Do you include yourself in the statement, “live free of religion and the fears it brings”?
Fisherking wrote:
Zzyzx wrote:Could living in fear of gods restrict decision making
If it didn't, it wouldn't really be fear would it?
Professional religionists benefit when the god they promote can be made to appear fearful and dangerous.

Are you a professional religionist?
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Zzyzx wrote: Professional religionists benefit when the god they promote can be made to appear fearful and dangerous.
Are you a professional religionist?
Nope, I've never been a professional religionist and have had no formal training in theology whatsoever. You might be suprised what my profession is currently. If you really want to know what I do, PM me, I'll tell ya :)

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Fisherking wrote:
Zzyzx wrote: Professional religionists benefit when the god they promote can be made to appear fearful and dangerous.
Are you a professional religionist?
Nope, I've never been a professional religionist and have had no formal training in theology whatsoever. You might be suprised what my profession is currently. If you really want to know what I do, PM me, I'll tell ya :)
I have sent a PM requesting the above information.

Now, would you care to address the issues I raised and the questions I asked (bolded for convenience)?
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Fisherking wrote:
Zzyzx wrote: Can someone explain why one would choose to live in fear?
In a general sense I would say it is because the object of fear has the power to harm the one that is fearful.
Since the “object of fear” cannot be shown to exist and since one chooses to live in fear, the question remains; Why CHOOSE to live in fear?

Is the choice of a god similar to choosing to follow a Mafia chief because one fears him?
Fisherking wrote:
Zzyzx wrote:Why worship a “god” that causes such fear?

Why worship a god that is powerless to to make one fearful?


Nice dodge of the question.
Fisherking wrote:
Zzyzx wrote:I cannot imagine deliberately choosing to live in fear.
When you are having a fearful dream is your fear deliberate act of your will?
I have no opinion regarding whether a fearful dream is a deliberate act of will.

I do not study dreams nor structure my life around dreams, visions or delusions, and thus do not become concerned about such matters.
Fisherking wrote:
Zzyzx wrote:Many of us live free of religion and the fears it brings.
Indeed we do!
Do you include yourself in the statement, “live free of religion and the fears it brings”?
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Having watched the video on that website, it is time for another of my rants. but im getting tired of repeating myself so ill make this one short.

I am not stalin. Atheist is equivalent to theist in its usefullness as a description.

the term atheist has nothing to do with morals. an atheist's morals are based upon their philosophy. You can not associate two people with different philosophies and claim that they share blame for something that only one of them did.

If an atheist sophist murdurs somebody, and an atheist pacafist doesnt, how does that say anything about the atheist pacafist?

Here is a challenge for you. find a group of atheist pacafists that kills and murders men women and children, or any such group that has ever done so.
Its impossible. stop trying to slur all atheists for the action of some, or I will have to start sluring all theists(inculding christians) for muslim extremest actions such as 9/11. Both prospects are equally ridiculous.

I'm getting awful tired of repeating myself. please stop making me.

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