Are Atheists Just Imaginary
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Post #1In light of the overwhelming attempt to kill God by the most atheist I thought I'd post up this link for those who would like to look into the minds of some atheist.
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Atheists don't fight god. That again would be futile, fighting something not considered real. They fight theists, or the ideas of theists. To use your notions of power, god is powerless against atheism. One cannot fight what does not exist.fisherofmen wrote:I'm new here and maybe shouldn't speak up just yet, but this post caught my eye. I feel that-
A: God can't be killed. Satan is the most powerful evil spirit, next to God's power, and Satan doesn't hold a candle to the power of God.
B: I don't believe Atheist are in total disbelief of God or they wouldn't keep fighting him so much.
Good luck with your endeavor of becoming what God might approve. From what I've seen, the feedback is lousy, and generally through someone who's always going to find you lacking from their human perspective.C: Kind of goes back to the OQ. Maybe they aren't as imaginary as they are perhaps unwilling to commit themselves to a spirit who some know or feel is and always has been control all along? Which may be frightening.
With each page of the bible I turn, each day I have a new fear. I won't lie, the bible has struck fear in me numerous times, but I want (one day) to be the man God approves of. It's extremely tough work. But if you don't believe in Gods promises, you wouldn't waste a minute on it I suppose. But kill God, beg your pardon I don't want to offend but I found that amusing at best. A being that can move mountains and raise the dead and level cities isn't gonna be bumped off by a handful of mortals. IMHO
If all the ignorance in the world passed a second ago, what would you say? Who would you obey?
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Welcome to the forum Fisherofmen. Are you a professional fisher of men – a cleric?
I cannot imagine deliberately choosing to live in fear. Many of us live free of religion and the fears it brings.
Could living in fear of gods restrict decision making and thinking abilities????
Welcome to the forum Fisherofmen. Are you a professional fisher of men – a cleric?
Can someone explain why one would choose to live in fear? Why worship a “god” that causes such fear? Is the purpose to achieve “heaven” in an “afterlife”?fisherofmen wrote: With each page of the bible I turn, each day I have a new fear. I won't lie, the bible has struck fear in me numerous times,
I cannot imagine deliberately choosing to live in fear. Many of us live free of religion and the fears it brings.
Could living in fear of gods restrict decision making and thinking abilities????
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In a general sense I would say it is because the object of fear has the power to harm the one that is fearful.Zzyzx wrote: Can someone explain why one would choose to live in fear?
Zzyzx wrote:Why worship a “god” that causes such fear?
Why worship a god that is powerless to to make one fearful?
When you are having a fearful dream is your fear deliberate act of your will?Zzyzx wrote:I cannot imagine deliberately choosing to live in fear.
Indeed we do!Zzyzx wrote:Many of us live free of religion and the fears it brings.
If it didn't, it wouldn't really be fear would it?Zzyzx wrote:Could living in fear of gods restrict decision making
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Is the choice of a god similar to choosing to follow a Mafia chief because one fears him?
Nice dodge of the question.
I do not study dreams nor structure my life around dreams, visions or delusions, and thus do not become concerned about such matters.
Are you a professional religionist?
Since the “object of fear” cannot be shown to exist and since one chooses to live in fear, the question remains; “Why CHOOSE to live in fear?Fisherking wrote:In a general sense I would say it is because the object of fear has the power to harm the one that is fearful.Zzyzx wrote: Can someone explain why one would choose to live in fear?
Is the choice of a god similar to choosing to follow a Mafia chief because one fears him?
Fisherking wrote:Zzyzx wrote:Why worship a “god” that causes such fear?
Why worship a god that is powerless to to make one fearful?
Nice dodge of the question.
I have no opinion regarding whether a fearful dream is a deliberate act of will.Fisherking wrote:When you are having a fearful dream is your fear deliberate act of your will?Zzyzx wrote:I cannot imagine deliberately choosing to live in fear.
I do not study dreams nor structure my life around dreams, visions or delusions, and thus do not become concerned about such matters.
Do you include yourself in the statement, “live free of religion and the fears it brings”?Fisherking wrote:Indeed we do!Zzyzx wrote:Many of us live free of religion and the fears it brings.
Professional religionists benefit when the god they promote can be made to appear fearful and dangerous.Fisherking wrote:If it didn't, it wouldn't really be fear would it?Zzyzx wrote:Could living in fear of gods restrict decision making
Are you a professional religionist?
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Nope, I've never been a professional religionist and have had no formal training in theology whatsoever. You might be suprised what my profession is currently. If you really want to know what I do, PM me, I'll tell yaZzyzx wrote: Professional religionists benefit when the god they promote can be made to appear fearful and dangerous.
Are you a professional religionist?

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Now, would you care to address the issues I raised and the questions I asked (bolded for convenience)?
I have sent a PM requesting the above information.Fisherking wrote:Nope, I've never been a professional religionist and have had no formal training in theology whatsoever. You might be suprised what my profession is currently. If you really want to know what I do, PM me, I'll tell yaZzyzx wrote: Professional religionists benefit when the god they promote can be made to appear fearful and dangerous.
Are you a professional religionist?
Now, would you care to address the issues I raised and the questions I asked (bolded for convenience)?
Zzyzx wrote:.Since the “object of fear” cannot be shown to exist and since one chooses to live in fear, the question remains; Why CHOOSE to live in fear?Fisherking wrote:In a general sense I would say it is because the object of fear has the power to harm the one that is fearful.Zzyzx wrote: Can someone explain why one would choose to live in fear?
Is the choice of a god similar to choosing to follow a Mafia chief because one fears him?
Fisherking wrote:Zzyzx wrote:Why worship a “god” that causes such fear?
Why worship a god that is powerless to to make one fearful?
Nice dodge of the question.
I have no opinion regarding whether a fearful dream is a deliberate act of will.Fisherking wrote:When you are having a fearful dream is your fear deliberate act of your will?Zzyzx wrote:I cannot imagine deliberately choosing to live in fear.
I do not study dreams nor structure my life around dreams, visions or delusions, and thus do not become concerned about such matters.
Do you include yourself in the statement, “live free of religion and the fears it brings”?Fisherking wrote:Indeed we do!Zzyzx wrote:Many of us live free of religion and the fears it brings.
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Post #17Having watched the video on that website, it is time for another of my rants. but im getting tired of repeating myself so ill make this one short.
I am not stalin. Atheist is equivalent to theist in its usefullness as a description.
the term atheist has nothing to do with morals. an atheist's morals are based upon their philosophy. You can not associate two people with different philosophies and claim that they share blame for something that only one of them did.
If an atheist sophist murdurs somebody, and an atheist pacafist doesnt, how does that say anything about the atheist pacafist?
Here is a challenge for you. find a group of atheist pacafists that kills and murders men women and children, or any such group that has ever done so.
Its impossible. stop trying to slur all atheists for the action of some, or I will have to start sluring all theists(inculding christians) for muslim extremest actions such as 9/11. Both prospects are equally ridiculous.
I'm getting awful tired of repeating myself. please stop making me.
I am not stalin. Atheist is equivalent to theist in its usefullness as a description.
the term atheist has nothing to do with morals. an atheist's morals are based upon their philosophy. You can not associate two people with different philosophies and claim that they share blame for something that only one of them did.
If an atheist sophist murdurs somebody, and an atheist pacafist doesnt, how does that say anything about the atheist pacafist?
Here is a challenge for you. find a group of atheist pacafists that kills and murders men women and children, or any such group that has ever done so.
Its impossible. stop trying to slur all atheists for the action of some, or I will have to start sluring all theists(inculding christians) for muslim extremest actions such as 9/11. Both prospects are equally ridiculous.
I'm getting awful tired of repeating myself. please stop making me.