honestly
if you do them you get sent to hell
yup that is love
as someone else menchend to me all you have to do is basiclly repent
but whats the point of them??????????
The 10 sins
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The 10 sins
Post #1If god loved you why would he give you 10 things not to do???
honestly
if you do them you get sent to hell
yup that is love
as someone else menchend to me all you have to do is basiclly repent
but whats the point of them??????????
honestly
if you do them you get sent to hell
yup that is love
as someone else menchend to me all you have to do is basiclly repent
but whats the point of them??????????
Re: The 10 sins
Post #11well you do techniclly if you get the law involvedMcCulloch wrote:Who's parents set up a situation where if they make a mistake, which they will all do, they will end up in torment for the rest of their lives? Yup, that is luv.MikeH wrote:If your parents loved you why would they give you things not to do???
honestly
if you do them you get sent to your room
yup that is love
as someone else menchend to me all you have to do is basiclly repent
but whats the point of them??????????
Re: The 10 sins
Post #12No god does that either. Parents grant forgiveness and move on, and it seems the God of the Bible does the same...McCulloch wrote:Who's parents set up a situation where if they make a mistake, which they will all do, they will end up in torment for the rest of their lives? Yup, that is luv.
Re: The 10 sins
Post #13only if u repent(say sorry in the parents terms)MikeH wrote:No god does that either. Parents grant forgiveness and move on, and it seems the God of the Bible does the same...McCulloch wrote:Who's parents set up a situation where if they make a mistake, which they will all do, they will end up in torment for the rest of their lives? Yup, that is luv.
but God only sincerlly forgives you if you Mean it
your parents don't have to know if you mean it or not.
Re: The 10 sins
Post #14[/quote]only if u repent(say sorry in the parents terms)
but God only sincerlly forgives you if you Mean it
your parents don't have to know if you mean it or not.[/quote]
This is true. Your parents can probably tell if you are sincere some of the time, but they can be tricked / lied to pretty easily too.
but God only sincerlly forgives you if you Mean it
your parents don't have to know if you mean it or not.[/quote]
This is true. Your parents can probably tell if you are sincere some of the time, but they can be tricked / lied to pretty easily too.
Re: The 10 sins
Post #15only if u repent(say sorry in the parents terms)MikeH wrote:
but God only sincerlly forgives you if you Mean it
your parents don't have to know if you mean it or not.[/quote]
This is true. Your parents can probably tell if you are sincere some of the time, but they can be tricked / lied to pretty easily too.[/quote]depends on how well they know you, mine don't know a thing.
but i guess you are right.
so where does this fall into????
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Re: The 10 sins
Post #16McCulloch wrote:Who's parents set up a situation where if they make a mistake, which they will all do, they will end up in torment for the rest of their lives? Yup, that is luv.
Who was it that decided what the punishment for sin would be? Who was it who decided that the temptation for sin would be in the garden? Don't Christians (at least some of them and many of their institutions) teach that not believing will end you up in eternal torment?MikeH wrote:No god does that either. Parents grant forgiveness and move on, and it seems the God of the Bible does the same...
Examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
First Epistle to the Church of the Thessalonians
The truth will make you free.
Gospel of John
First Epistle to the Church of the Thessalonians
The truth will make you free.
Gospel of John
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Post #18I see a really peculiar idea being taken for granted here: that rules, in this case the. Ten, are set up for no other reason than to get people into trouble. (Logical corollary; there ought to be no rules.)
Has anyone really reflected on this? That is the attitude of a five-year-old child.
My parents gave me rules: Don't touch the stove when it's on. Don't play in the street. Don't run with scissors. Don't play with matches.
Anybody notice a pattern?
The Ten are all things that are bad for you. Not just for others; for you yourself.
If you steal and kill and lie under oath, you become the kind of person that no one should want to be. The same applies to all the rest, including the commandments against blasphemy, following other gods, and even coveting.
Geez, people, think it through. Only children think the point of rules is just to prevent you from doing whatever you want, and only children think that the worst thing that can happen to you if you break a rule--and the only thing that matters--is that you might get punished.
I came to understand this when I was four and pressed Daddy's car lighter, which I was forbidden to touch, to my mouth. I figured it was okay, because no one was looking. I still have the scar. (They didn't have that protective rim back in the 50s.)
The punishment is irrelevant, whether it's Hell or a spanking. God doesn't want us to play in the street.
This stuff isn't rocket science; it isn't even theology. It's just an understanding of things like consequences and character and intent that's maybe made it to middle-school level.
Honestly. This may be the weirdest thread I've ever read.
Has anyone really reflected on this? That is the attitude of a five-year-old child.
My parents gave me rules: Don't touch the stove when it's on. Don't play in the street. Don't run with scissors. Don't play with matches.
Anybody notice a pattern?
The Ten are all things that are bad for you. Not just for others; for you yourself.
If you steal and kill and lie under oath, you become the kind of person that no one should want to be. The same applies to all the rest, including the commandments against blasphemy, following other gods, and even coveting.
Geez, people, think it through. Only children think the point of rules is just to prevent you from doing whatever you want, and only children think that the worst thing that can happen to you if you break a rule--and the only thing that matters--is that you might get punished.
I came to understand this when I was four and pressed Daddy's car lighter, which I was forbidden to touch, to my mouth. I figured it was okay, because no one was looking. I still have the scar. (They didn't have that protective rim back in the 50s.)
The punishment is irrelevant, whether it's Hell or a spanking. God doesn't want us to play in the street.
This stuff isn't rocket science; it isn't even theology. It's just an understanding of things like consequences and character and intent that's maybe made it to middle-school level.
Honestly. This may be the weirdest thread I've ever read.
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Post #19Thank you for adding the five-year-old child analogy. Mature people make their own rules, not individually but collectively. Do we need a God to tell us to take the seventh day off when we have determined collectively that society seems to work better when days off are staggered?cnorman18 wrote:I see a really peculiar idea being taken for granted here: that rules, in this case the. Ten, are set up for no other reason than to get people into trouble. (Logical corollary; there ought to be no rules.)
Has anyone really reflected on this? That is the attitude of a five-year-old child.
My parents gave me rules: Don't touch the stove when it's on. Don't play in the street. Don't run with scissors. Don't play with matches.
Anybody notice a pattern?
The Ten are all things that are bad for you. Not just for others; for you yourself.
Examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
First Epistle to the Church of the Thessalonians
The truth will make you free.
Gospel of John
First Epistle to the Church of the Thessalonians
The truth will make you free.
Gospel of John
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Post #20it si for our own goodcnorman18 wrote:I see a really peculiar idea being taken for granted here: that rules, in this case the. Ten, are set up for no other reason than to get people into trouble. (Logical corollary; there ought to be no rules.)
Has anyone really reflected on this? That is the attitude of a five-year-old child.
My parents gave me rules: Don't touch the stove when it's on. Don't play in the street. Don't run with scissors. Don't play with matches.
Anybody notice a pattern?
The Ten are all things that are bad for you. Not just for others; for you yourself.
If you steal and kill and lie under oath, you become the kind of person that no one should want to be. The same applies to all the rest, including the commandments against blasphemy, following other gods, and even coveting.
Geez, people, think it through. Only children think the point of rules is just to prevent you from doing whatever you want, and only children think that the worst thing that can happen to you if you break a rule--and the only thing that matters--is that you might get punished.
I came to understand this when I was four and pressed Daddy's car lighter, which I was forbidden to touch, to my mouth. I figured it was okay, because no one was looking. I still have the scar. (They didn't have that protective rim back in the 50s.)
The punishment is irrelevant, whether it's Hell or a spanking. God doesn't want us to play in the street.
This stuff isn't rocket science; it isn't even theology. It's just an understanding of things like consequences and character and intent that's maybe made it to middle-school level.
Honestly. This may be the weirdest thread I've ever read.
but we should make the choice not be told
