Music's influence

[sledheavy]

This one's common sense. I just want to get a taste for most of your views on music.

I've found music of all qualities and genres to be as equally inspiring as they are ignorant in word choice.

I've even been told by pastors that 'god loves music' I guess because when we get into symphony and such we find tones defining a more humanlike characteristic.

At what point is music's influence considered wrong? Should there be limitations? If the music that people support affects major record labels more than the artist is it necessarily good or bad? And last, at what point should people just know better (totally generally speaking)?

[agnosis]

You can't judge music by the people who listen to it, because not everyone who likes the music will fit neatly into the stereotype you create.

[sledheavy]

You can't judge music by the people who listen to it, because not everyone who likes the music will fit neatly into the stereotype you create.

No but you can't surely base the idea that if music is influencing ignorant people, be it 10% of the time or 75% of the time, those ignorant people still make up a part of that music's culture. And are still capable of making stupid choices based on what their influences tell them.

May not happen all the time, but we have to consider it.

Hence, me saying that anyone who actually puts a lot of intelligence and thought into the music they listen to, even based on personal standards, I give MUCH more credit for, than those that are just ignorantly comparing themselves to it.

Stereotypes or not, this should be well beyond stereotypes. But even still, lol, would you go to a rap concert in east L.A. wearing red clothing? Probably not. Avoiding some stereotypes can also get us killed.

[Osiris]

You can't judge music by the people who listen to it, because not everyone who likes the music will fit neatly into the stereotype you create.

No but you can't surely base the idea that if music is influencing ignorant people, be it 10% of the time or 75% of the time, those ignorant people still make up a part of that music's culture. And are still capable of making stupid choices based on what their influences tell them.

May not happen all the time, but we have to consider it.

Hence, me saying that anyone who actually puts a lot of intelligence and thought into the music they listen to, even based on personal standards, I give MUCH more credit for, than those that are just ignorantly comparing themselves to it.

Stereotypes or not, this should be well beyond stereotypes. But even still, lol, would you go to a rap concert in east L.A. wearing red clothing? Probably not. Avoiding some stereotypes can also get us killed.

You will be fine if you wear red to a "rap" concert in LA. But what kind of rap concert are you talking about? Its not like all rap is the same, or that the music and ppl associated with it are violent. Also,what are you refering to with the red statement? How do you think "red at a rap concert" would be dangerous? You seem to be playing in to media bias and stereotypes.

[sledheavy]

You can't judge music by the people who listen to it, because not everyone who likes the music will fit neatly into the stereotype you create.

No but you can't surely base the idea that if music is influencing ignorant people, be it 10% of the time or 75% of the time, those ignorant people still make up a part of that music's culture. And are still capable of making stupid choices based on what their influences tell them.

May not happen all the time, but we have to consider it.

Hence, me saying that anyone who actually puts a lot of intelligence and thought into the music they listen to, even based on personal standards, I give MUCH more credit for, than those that are just ignorantly comparing themselves to it.

Stereotypes or not, this should be well beyond stereotypes. But even still, lol, would you go to a rap concert in east L.A. wearing red clothing? Probably not. Avoiding some stereotypes can also get us killed.

You will be fine if you wear red to a "rap" concert in LA. But what kind of rap concert are you talking about? Its not like all rap is the same, or that the music and ppl associated with it are violent. Also,what are you refering to with the red statement? How do you think "red at a rap concert" would be dangerous? You seem to be playing in to media bias and stereotypes.

sigh....irrevalent.

That IS just a detail to the overall point. I'm probably wrong about the statement anyway, b/c half the time I'm not in east L.A. Regardless, you're not seeing the main point.

Maybe I'm just not getting it across.

There still exists some ignoramus' of any culture or following that're more than willing to do something stupid. Yes? I really shouldn't have to explain this.

Whatever you associate yourself with, you're conveying a message. Be it music, fads, likeness, WhAtEvEr. If stereotypes are determined or deciphered by this message, there's a strong possibility some ignorant bastard's going to get offended. There's no denying that.

If I'm listening to common sense, and a gang banger pulls up next to me hearing my rap music, he's not going to stop and think 'hmm. Common has a good message to what he says, maybe this person's thinking the same thing.' No, he's probably going to at the least, look a little aggressive, and probably boost the ever more ignorant gangster rap to drown me out.

My point in relation to what you're actually picking at, is that a strong portion of the time, profiling can actually save your life. Please, please, please don't tell me you're nieve enough to say all stereotypes and profiling issues are void.

I'm not picking on rap here, this is just common knowledge.

Call it stereotyping on my part all you want, the examples should hardly matter to this point.