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It is pretty obvious that God is supposed to be male. It is Adam who is made in his image.

That begs the question: Does God have a penis? If so what is it for? If he has one, then he is not only male but the male of his species, because if he's perfect and he has one, it has to be for something and must go somewhere and therefore there must be more of those things. It's just that none of them created Earth or humans.

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An immaterial nothing creating a material something is as logically sound as square circles and married bachelors.


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Purple Knight wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2024 3:01 pm ... he's talking to the Lord specifically and saying, let me wash your feet
They were all angels, one of whom represented YHWH which is why he was addressed by Abraham as if he was God. The angel never declared himself as such. (Biblically, God cannot be a messenger to himself)

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Purple Knight wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2024 3:01 pm...why would male come before female?
Perhaps to give him time to see how incomplete je was without her, so he would always appreciate that he needed her.


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JehovahsWitness wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2024 5:26 pm They were all angels, one of whom represented YHWH which is why he was addressed by Abraham as if he was God. The angel never declared himself as such. (Biblically, God cannot be a messenger to himself)
That is incredibly confusing. Especially the part that says the Lord appeared before Abraham. Not a messenger, but the Lord. I'm not disputing the events, I'm saying the events are related badly. We're not even told how he knows these angels from three randos.
JehovahsWitness wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2024 5:37 pmPerhaps to give him time to see how incomplete he was without her, so he would always appreciate that he needed her.
That's a very good answer. But it also includes the idea that males who ignore this message were not created to be bullheaded, but choose to be. To me it seems like testosterone - natural makeup - has something to do with it. It links in with a thought I often have about trans women in women's sports wouldn't be such a big issue unless the world was already out of balance and tilted toward thinking only male exceptionalism is valuable, which is, of course, why many parts of the world are running out of babies.

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Purple Knight wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2024 3:01 pm
1213 wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 1:23 amI would like to see the scripture that tells God came down and had His feet washed. The wrestle part i know and according to it, the person was a man who called himself god. Doesn't really mean He was the one and only true God, I think.
It's in Genesis. I don't know why it's so hard to find. (I think I feel exactly as silly as I should searching the Bible for "feet" only knowing roughly where it was.)

18:1 And the LORD appeared unto him in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day;
18:2 And he lift up his eyes and looked, and, lo, three men stood by him: and when he saw them, he ran to meet them from the tent door, and bowed himself toward the ground,
18:3 And said, My LORD, if now I have found favour in thy sight, pass not away, I pray thee, from thy servant:
18:4 Let a little water, I pray you, be fetched, and wash your feet, and rest yourselves under the tree:

Upon re-reading it looks like Abraham may well have washed the feet of the three messengers, but he's talking to the Lord specifically and saying, let me wash your feet, which if it is the case that he washed the feet of the messengers, is insanely confusing. It does say the divine messengers are men.

See now, if I was dishonest I'd have just put 18:3 and 18:4.
Thank you! :)

It is interesting that in the 18:1 the word Lord comes from word YHWH, or Jehovah, but the second Lord in the 18:3 is from adonai. I understand the scriptures so that after the God had appeared to the person, he saw three man and called one of them adonai. So, I don't think that was about washing God's feet.
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Purple Knight wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2024 10:27 pm...the world was already out of balance ...
Biblically that is exactly the case. According to scipture that will be remedies soon.

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JehovahsWitness wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2024 1:45 pm
Purple Knight wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2024 10:27 pm...the world was already out of balance ...
Biblically that is exactly the case. According to scipture that will be remedies soon.

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BrotherBerry wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 6:19 pm .... 1 Corinthians 7:23 Do not be slaves of men.
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In whatever state each one was called, let him remain in it.+ 21 Were you called when a slave? Do not let it concern you;+ but if you can become free, then seize the opportunity. 22 For anyone who was called in the Lord when a slave is the Lord’s freedman;+ likewise anyone who was called when a freeman is a slave of Christ.+ 23 You were bought with a price;+ stop becoming slaves of men.+ 24 In whatever state each one was called, brothers, let him remain in it before God
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BrotherBerry wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 6:19 pm ... To learn more go to www.Gotquestions.org.
www.Godquestion.org wrote:New Testament Instruction on Slavery

Even in the New Testament era, the Bible did not demand that every slave owner immediately emancipate his slaves. Rather, the apostles gave instructions to slaves and their owners on godly behavior within that social system. Masters were admonished on the proper treatment of their slaves. For example, in Ephesians 6:9 masters are told, “Treat your slaves in the same way [with goodwill]. Do not threaten them, since you know that he who is both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no favoritism with him.” Elsewhere, the command is, “Masters, provide your slaves with what is right and fair, because you know that you also have a Master in heaven” (Colossians 4:1).

Jesus and the apostles did not outright condemn slavery. They didn’t need to. The effect of the gospel is that lives are changed, one by one, and those changed lives in turn bring transformation to entire families, clans, and cultures. Christianity was never designed to be a political movement, but, over time, it naturally affected political policy. Alexander MacLaren wrote that the gospel “meddles directly with no political or social arrangements, but lays down principles which will profoundly affect these, and leaves them to soak into the general mind” (The Expositor’s Bible, vol. VI, Eerdmans, 1940, p. 301). In nations where Christianity spread and took firm hold, slavery was brought to an end through the efforts of born-again individuals.


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Purple Knight wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2024 8:04 pm It is pretty obvious that God is supposed to be male. It is Adam who is made in his image.

That begs the question: Does God have a penis? If so what is it for? If he has one, then he is not only male but the male of his species, because if he's perfect and he has one, it has to be for something and must go somewhere and therefore there must be more of those things. It's just that none of them created Earth or humans.
Genesis 1:27 says, “So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.”

The Bible teaches that both men and women are equally in God’s image.

Christians use the pronoun “He” for God, but we do so recognizing that God is not literally male. As has been pointed out, God is Spirit. He creates; He does not reproduce.

It would be logically impossible for an eternal Being to reproduce in the way that humans do, since the eternal Being’s offspring would be eternal. The newly produced offspring would have always existed, which is a contradiction.

This is one of the reasons orthodox Christians recognize that “Son of God” was a Divine title for Jesus. If Jesus is the son of God – a begotten son, not an adopted son – then he is God. He is not an angel or a demi-god or anything like that.

My son is just as human as I am. Jesus, the Son of God, is just as much God as the Father is.

Humans have genitalia because we reproduce. God, who is Spirit, does not reproduce in the same way.
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