Muslims Jews and Christians

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Why is it that the Quaran Hates Christians and Jews so much? There are numerous times in the Quaran where it calls for the destruction of Christians and Jews, i don't understand why that is? Any ideas?

[bernee51]

quran calls for peace and brotherehood . and muslims are not told to hate anyone.

Obviously no one has told Sunni and Shia this little gem, have they?

[yourfriend85]

quran calls for peace and brotherehood . and muslims are not told to hate anyone.

Obviously no one has told Sunni and Shia this little gem, have they?

of course no one told them .
we shouldn't consider the religion as responsible for the wrong deeds of its followers because nobody is perfect.There are practising muslims and non practising muslims

[alforkan]

islam is the most practical religion in this sense e.i. it provides a detailed set of laws and teachings regarding warfare and fighting. it is unfortunately something that will always happen and need to be used sometimes...so it makes sense that God knows this and gives teachings to mankind as to how to and how not to fight.
like for example christians teach "no divorce" - islam also says divorce is not good at all...but you are allowed ...as realistically not every marriage will work. this is again an example of the practicalness of islams teachings.

And like all religions it is a human construct. It is a 'label' that rejoices in labels. Thre will never be peace while labels persist.

You should know that Islam is not a human construct like Hinduism or Buddhism .
Muslims do have a prophet and a Holy Book -the Coran that was revealed by God.

[bernee51]

islam is the most practical religion in this sense e.i. it provides a detailed set of laws and teachings regarding warfare and fighting. it is unfortunately something that will always happen and need to be used sometimes...so it makes sense that God knows this and gives teachings to mankind as to how to and how not to fight.
like for example christians teach "no divorce" - islam also says divorce is not good at all...but you are allowed ...as realistically not every marriage will work. this is again an example of the practicalness of islams teachings.

And like all religions it is a human construct. It is a 'label' that rejoices in labels. Thre will never be peace while labels persist.

You should know that Islam is not a human construct like Hinduism or Buddhism .

And you should know...it most certainly is a human construct - as are all religions.

Muslims do have a prophet and a Holy Book -the Coran that was revealed by God.

many books have been claimed to be 'revelations from god'.. Why should the koran be seen in a different light to all teh others?

[bernee51]

quran calls for peace and brotherehood . and muslims are not told to hate anyone.

Obviously no one has told Sunni and Shia this little gem, have they?

of course no one told them .
we shouldn't consider the religion as responsible for the wrong deeds of its followers because nobody is perfect.There are practising muslims and non practising muslims

So those people who religiously do namaz then blow up themselves, and fellow muslims (or jews, or christians...) are not 'practising muslims'?

What does it take to be a 'true muslim'(tm)

[yourfriend85]

quran calls for peace and brotherehood . and muslims are not told to hate anyone.

Obviously no one has told Sunni and Shia this little gem, have they?

of course no one told them .
we shouldn't consider the religion as responsible for the wrong deeds of its followers because nobody is perfect.There are practising muslims and non practising muslims

So those people who religiously do namaz then blow up themselves, and fellow muslims (or jews, or christians...) are not 'practising muslims'?

What does it take to be a 'true muslim'(tm)

a true muslim is a muslim who tries hard to abide by the directions found in the Coran.
There are christians who are christians but they don't attend the church ; are they practising their religion ! Exactly ; there are Muslims who were born as such , but they are not behaving as Islam tells them .

[bernee51]

a true muslim is a muslim who tries hard to abide by the directions found in the Coran.

Then it all comes back to us fallible and self interested humans. Directions found in the koran are open to interpretation. There are those who interpret words in the koran to justify discrimination against women....there are other who see the koran saying women are men's equal. There are those who interpret the koran to justify violent jihad, there are others who interpret jihad as an inner struggle not an outer one.

How does one decide the 'correct' interpretation?

There are christians who are christians but they don't attend the church ; are they practising their religion !

They could be...there are those who interpret their bible as not requiring attendance at church but the 'the church' is faith itself.

Exactly ; there are Muslims who were born as such , but they are not behaving as Islam tells them .

Who decides what islam tells them? The imam? Their own reading and interpretation of the koran?

[yourfriend85]

a true muslim is a muslim who tries hard to abide by the directions found in the Coran.

Then it all comes back to us fallible and self interested humans. Directions found in the koran are open to interpretation. There are those who interpret words in the koran to justify discrimination against women....there are other who see the koran saying women are men's equal. There are those who interpret the koran to justify violent jihad, there are others who interpret jihad as an inner struggle not an outer one.

How does one decide the 'correct' interpretation?
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As for the correct interpretation I tell you :
not all the Qoran is open to interpretations ; there are many clear and straightforward verses. There are also some verses that are open to interpretations; you may ask why is this !
I tell you that when God reveales the Qoran ; Ha knows that there will be a time when people would say that the Qoran is out of date and that it doesn't take into consideration recent issues. These recent issues require new rulings that suit our time . For instance ;Muslims should pray on time but if a doctor who does operations for patients may perform two prayers together if time doesn't allow him to perform each one on time .this is just an example.
-the correct interpretation should be drawn from scholars who are known to be serious and who fear God because there are so many scholars who don't have enough knowledge that allows them to issue interpretations.

There are christians who are christians but they don't attend the church ; are they practising their religion !

They could be...there are those who interpret their bible as not requiring attendance at church but the 'the church' is faith itself.

Exactly ; there are Muslims who were born as such , but they are not behaving as Islam tells them .

Who decides what islam tells them? The imam? Their own reading and interpretation of the koran?

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the first source that decides what Islam tells is the Qoran ; then ;the "sunna" of our prophet ( peace be upon Him) ( sunna : means the way our prophet (peace be upon Him) behaved ; wore ; ate ;some sayings...) and number three is the interpretation of the Qoran not by all imams ; but by trustful God fearing scholars.

[bernee51]

As for the correct interpretation I tell you :
not all the Qoran is open to interpretations ; there are many clear and straightforward verses. There are also some verses that are open to interpretations; you may ask why is this !
I tell you that when God reveales the Qoran ; Ha knows that there will be a time when people would say that the Qoran is out of date and that it doesn't take into consideration recent issues.

According to 'interpretation' should women wear hijab, burka or go bare headed?

Or is this dealt with in the koran as a clear and straightforward issue.

can a muslim man have more than one wife? Can a muslim woman have more than one husband?

the first source that decides what Islam tells is the Qoran ; then ;the "sunna" of our prophet ( peace be upon Him) ( sunna : means the way our prophet (peace be upon Him) behaved ; wore ; ate ;some sayings...)

Can a muslim like the prophet have many wives, some as young as 9 years old?

and number three is the interpretation of the Qoran not by all imams ; but by trustful God fearing scholars.

Who decides 'trustworthy'? 'god fearing'?

[yourfriend85]

As for the correct interpretation I tell you :
not all the Qoran is open to interpretations ; there are many clear and straightforward verses. There are also some verses that are open to interpretations; you may ask why is this !
I tell you that when God reveales the Qoran ; Ha knows that there will be a time when people would say that the Qoran is out of date and that it doesn't take into consideration recent issues.

According to 'interpretation' should women wear hijab, burka or go bare headed?

Or is this dealt with in the koran as a clear and straightforward issue.
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In the Qoran ; women are ordered to cover their heads ; be it a hijab or niqab it is a matter of interpretation. but being bare headed is prohibited.

can a muslim man have more than one wife? Can a muslim woman have more than one husband?
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With regard to the permissibility of multiple spouses for men and its prohibition for women, there are several issues which are obvious to every intelligent person. Allaah has made woman like a vessel, but man is not like that. If a woman becomes pregnant (when she has had intercourse with a number of men at one time), the father can never be known. People’s lines of descent and lineage will be mixed up, families will be destroyed and children will be lost. Women will be burdened with so many children that they will be unable to bring them up and spend on their maintenance. Maybe women would find themselves forced to sterilize themselves, which would lead to the extinction of the human race. Moreover it is medically proven now that one of the major causes of the serious diseases which have become widespread, such as AIDS etc., is women having intercourse with more than one man, and the mixing of seminal fluids in the woman’s womb causes these lethal diseases. Hence Allaah has prescribed a waiting period (‘iddah) for a woman who has been divorced or whose husband has died, until enough time has passed for her womb and passages to be cleansed of any traces of her former husband, and the monthly period also has a role to play in this matter

the first source that decides what Islam tells is the Qoran ; then ;the "sunna" of our prophet ( peace be upon Him) ( sunna : means the way our prophet (peace be upon Him) behaved ; wore ; ate ;some sayings...)

Can a muslim like the prophet have many wives, some as young as 9 years old?
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Allaah has allowed men to have more than one wife, as He says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And if you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly with the orphan girls then marry (other) women of your choice, two or three, or four"

[al-Nisa’ 4:3]

This clearly shows that plural marriage is permissible, and that according to Islamic sharee’ah a man may marry one, two, three or four wives, but it is not permissible for him to marry more than four. This is the view of the mufassireen and fuqaha’; the Muslims are unanimously agreed on this point and there is no difference of opinion.

It should be noted that there are conditions attached to plural marriage:

1 – Justice and fairness.

Because Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “but if you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one” [al-Nisa’ 4:3]. This verse shows that justice is a condition of plural marriage being permissible. If a man fears that he will not be able to treat his wives fairly if he marries more than one, then it is forbidden for him to marry more than one. What is meant by justice here is treating all wives equally with regard to spending, clothing, staying overnight and other material matters which are within his ability to control.

With regard to justice and equal treatment in the area of love, he is not held accountable for that, and it is not required of him because it is not possible to control it. This is what is meant by the words of Allaah (interpretation of the meaning):

“You will never be able to do perfect justice between wives even if it is your ardent desire”

[al-Nisa’ 4:129]

i.e., with regard to love of the heart.

2 – Being able to afford spending on plural wives.

The evidence for this is the verse in which Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And let those who find not the financial means for marriage keep themselves chaste, until Allaah enriches them of His Bounty”

[al-Noor 24:33]

In these verses Allaah commands the one who is able to get married but cannot afford it to remain chaste. One of the reasons for not be able to afford to get married is not having enough to pay the mahr (dowry) or not being able to spend on one’s wife. Al-Mufassal fi Ahkaam al-Mar’ah, vol. 6, p. 286.


And because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) married more than one wife, and Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Indeed in the Messenger of Allaah (Muhammad) you have a good example to follow”

[al-Ahzaab 33:21]

and number three is the interpretation of the Qoran not by all imams ; but by trustful God fearing scholars.

Who decides 'trustworthy'? 'god fearing'?

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It is not permissible for us to allow or prohibit however we wish. When new issues come up, if we do not find a text in the Qur’aan or Sunnah, or in the sayings of the scholars who came before us, then we have to refer to trustworthy scholars and people of understanding, as Allaah commands us (interpretation of the meaning): “… so ask of those who know the Scripture…” [al-Nahl 16:43]. These are the scholars who examine the matter and make analogies (qiyaas) with the existing texts of Islam, taking into consideration the principles of necessity, and taking note of what is harmful and what is beneficial, relying on the basic general principles of sharee’ah, such as the aayah (interpretation of the meaning), “… he allows them as lawful al-tayyibaat [(i.e., all good and lawful things as regards things, deeds, beliefs, persons, foods, etc.]…” [al-A’raaf 7:157] and the hadeeth, “There should be no harming nor reciprocating harm” (reported by Ibn Maajah, 2331), and avoiding following whims and desires. Every evil thing that is proven to be harmful is prohibited, and every good and beneficial thing is permitted. If it is not known that it is either harmful or beneficial, then the general rule is that it is permissible (mubaah). And Allaah knows best.