Mormons and Jehovahs Witnesses involved in child abuse

[Tcg]

Catholics aren't the only Christians guilty of child abuse:

"How child abuse goes unchecked for Mormons and Jehovahs Witnesses

A reckoning is taking place in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and Jehovahs Witnesses as stories emerge of child sex abuse.

Years ago, outrage erupted over how the Catholic Church allowed such abuse to go unchecked, but fewer may be aware of how other faiths are covering up abuse in their ranks.

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, also known as Mormons, and Jehovahs Witnesses are reportedly making use of a legal exemption for clergy which allows abuse to go unreported. The exemption dictates that religious members who hear about abuse through confession are not required to report it to authorities."

https://the1a.org/segments/how-child-ab ... witnesses/

Why would anyone who cares about the health and welfare of children support either of these groups of people?


Tcg

[The Nice Centurion]

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Why would anyone who cares about the health and welfare of children support either of these groups of people?

Jesus said:

but whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to stumble, it would be better for him that a huge millstone should be hung around his neck, and that he should be sunk in the depths of the sea.
Matt. 18:6

What do you think, should Christians sunk the pedophiles with a milestone on their neck?

Time for my favorite verse in the KJV

Psalms 137:9
"Happy shall he be that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones."

https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/1611_Psalms-137-9/

[The Nice Centurion]

there is absolutely no basis to insinuate child abuse is tolerated in their ranks or that to be one of Jehovahs Witness is to support the harming of children.

Hmm?

It took me about three seconds to find this:

http://revealnews.org/topic/jehovahs-witnesses/

Jehovahs Witnesses are, after Catlicks, the second closest choice which sect to most associate with child rape.
This brought me to the understanding that Jehovah himself must be a #PedophilianGod .

[Purple Knight]

Jehovahs Witness directive #7

7. Congregations of Jehovahs Witnesses do not separate children from their parents for
the purpose of instruction or other activities. (Ephesians 6:4) For example, our congregations
do not provide or sponsor orphanages, Sunday schools, sports clubs, day-care centers, youth
groups, or other activities that separate children from their parents.

That's an incredibly wise move.

[1213]

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Why would anyone who cares about the health and welfare of children support either of these groups of people?

Jesus said:

but whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to stumble, it would be better for him that a huge millstone should be hung around his neck, and that he should be sunk in the depths of the sea.
Matt. 18:6

What do you think, should Christians sunk the pedophiles with a milestone on their neck?

What I think is that this reply doesn't address the question for debate. That question is "Why would anyone who cares about the health and welfare of children support either of these groups of people?"

It addresses the question eventually. I just want to see first what is your limit in mercy.

But, if that is too difficult question for you, I can also say, blaming a group for crimes of individual people is not in my opinion in any case right. Or what do you think, if one atheist has done wrongly, should we accuse the whole group for it?

[1213]

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Why would anyone who cares about the health and welfare of children support either of these groups of people?

Jesus said:

but whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to stumble, it would be better for him that a huge millstone should be hung around his neck, and that he should be sunk in the depths of the sea.
Matt. 18:6

What do you think, should Christians sunk the pedophiles with a milestone on their neck?

Time for my favorite verse in the KJV

Psalms 137:9
"Happy shall he be that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones."

https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/1611_Psalms-137-9/

So you like dashing little ones against the stones?

[brunumb]

But, if that is too difficult question for you, I can also say, blaming a group for crimes of individual people is not in my opinion in any case right.

Those who aid and abet the guilty deserve the same punishment.

[1213]

But, if that is too difficult question for you, I can also say, blaming a group for crimes of individual people is not in my opinion in any case right.

Those who aid and abet the guilty deserve the same punishment.

Biden and democratic party is also accused of similar actions. And it could be said that the mainstream media aid and abet in it (Pizzagate). If the accusations would be true, what do you think would be the correct punishment? Should the party and the medias that helps them be obliterated?

[TRANSPONDER]

But, if that is too difficult question for you, I can also say, blaming a group for crimes of individual people is not in my opinion in any case right.

Those who aid and abet the guilty deserve the same punishment.

Biden and democratic party is also accused of similar actions. And it could be said that the mainstream media aid and abet in it (Pizzagate). If the accusations would be true, what do you think would be the correct punishment? Should the party and the medias that helps them be obliterated?

At the risk of getting into political debate, the Maga crowd have been accusing the Democrats of all sorts of stuff. And the media run with it as it makes good clickbait. In fact the only ones I can recall (since Clinton) of offending (like the accusations of vote fraud) have been Republicans (*koffmattgaetz..koff*).

But there we are, is it the individual to blame and the company is blameless - if an Amazon or Bank of America employee does a rape, you don't take the company to court, do you? But if there is a whole culture of abuse being covered up to save the face of the organisation, take the company to court and sue the socks off them.

That is the basis of the finger pointing against the churches. And those who try to excuse and defend them are themselves part of the problem, the evil and the disgrace.

[benchwarmer]

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Why would anyone who cares about the health and welfare of children support either of these groups of people?

Jesus said:

but whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to stumble, it would be better for him that a huge millstone should be hung around his neck, and that he should be sunk in the depths of the sea.
Matt. 18:6

What do you think, should Christians sunk the pedophiles with a milestone on their neck?

No, I think your God (if real) should instantly deal with the child abusers Himself. He seems to have no problem instantly killing someone for daring to touch the Ark of the Convenant, but apparently watches and waits for people outside of His various religious organizations to deal with crimes against children perpetrated by His followers.

It is also glaringly obvious that organizations that espouse belief in a god have no better (and often worse) track records in regards to child abuse due to the power dynamic of priests/pastors over their 'flock'.

It's also very clear why these religious organizations are covering up abuse. They want the masses to continue to think they are somehow 'ordained by God' and thus couldn't possibly be having these issues constantly. Surely with their God given insights and faith they should be easily rooting out anyone this bad trying to attain a position of power inside their organization. Yet we see this is false, just like the theologies they are preaching.

[1213]

No, I think your God (if real) should instantly deal with the child abusers Himself. He seems to have no problem instantly killing someone for daring to touch the Ark of the Convenant, but apparently watches and waits for people outside of His various religious organizations to deal with crimes against children perpetrated by His followers.

Yes, maybe God should make children radioactive, so that abusers would die instantly when they touch them.

In the case of the ark, I don't think God directly killed the people, but that the ark had some quality that made it lethal.

However, it is interesting idea, what if God would give the punishment instantly. Probably not many people would be left on earth.

It is also glaringly obvious that organizations that espouse belief in a god have no better (and often worse) track records in regards to child abuse due to the power dynamic of priests/pastors over their 'flock'.

It is very sad, if people who have teachings of Jesus, don't follow them. But, I think one problem with this is, it is easy to accuse people, but difficult to know are all the accusations true. And also, many accusations are never heard or believed, even if they are true. I think it is interesting, how differently people take the accusations, depending on are they directed to their favorite people, or are they directed to people who they hate. For example in the case of Biden and democrats, they are accused of pedophilia (Pizzagate). For some reason their accusers are discredited and defamed. But, in the case of Catholic church accusers are always believed and taken seriously. I don't say the accusers are wrong, I can't know are they speaking the truth, but I think there should be same standard in all judgments.