Reading Matthew chapter 19. Verse 16 - 30.
Do you think you are good? If so, in what way? I talk to many people who go around perfectly contented, just knowing that because they obey the law, never actually kill anyone nor steal nor do anything much to offend, it makes them like the
angels. Wrong! They ought to examine themselves closely. Not one of us can get through a day without sinning. Maybe not even a hour. I certainly can't.
Jesus here clearly states only God is good. There are lots of people who assume that they are good and therefore will automatically be welcomed into heaven. The only apparent qualification required is to die. They assume their deceased loved ones sprouted wings up there despite never giving God a passing thought.
In this reading Jesus clearly says in verse 26 that it is humanly impossible. Only through God is it made possible. Of course later we learn that Jesus is the only way.
Who is good?
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Post #11So if you truly believe god is omniscient he must know your every move and thought. Correct? And if he knows your every move and thought, how is it you could do any differently than what he has seen? As I see it, you couldn't. And if you can't do any differently and have to play out your life as god has seen, where does free will come into the picture?Rose2020 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 1:30 am [Replying to Miles in post #8]
We have free will. We are therefore no doubt extremely disappointing at times. Yet he does love us. That is why he sent Jesus to die for us.
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We are not puppets or robots. We truly can do what we want. God is all-powerful and sees all. It is neither complicated nor simple.
We are not puppets or robots. We truly can do what we want. God is all-powerful and sees all. It is neither complicated nor simple.
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Post #13Can this god make a rock so heavy he can't skip it across a pond?Rose2020 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:24 am [Replying to Miles in post #11]
We are not puppets or robots. We truly can do what we want. God is all-powerful and sees all. It is neither complicated nor simple.
Can this god see the millions of hungry, abused, or neglected children on this planet?
Can this god get off his lazy fourth point of contact and help them young'ns?
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Post #14Just what is it you disagree with here?Rose2020 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:24 am [Replying to Miles in post #11]
We are not puppets or robots. We truly can do what we want. God is all-powerful and sees all.
From post 8
"So if you truly believe god is omniscient he must know your every move and thought. Correct? And if he knows your every move and thought, how is it you could do any differently than what he has seen? As I see it, you couldn't. And if you can't do any differently and have to play out your life as god has seen, where does free will come into the picture?"
"So if you truly believe god is omniscient he must know your every move and thought. Correct? And if he knows your every move and thought, how is it you could do any differently than what he has seen? As I see it, you couldn't. And if you can't do any differently and have to play out your life as god has seen, where does free will come into the picture?"
Then what is it?It is neither complicated nor simple.
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Post #15'Good' being a subjective notion, we can all find us a piece of it within ourselves somewhere.
I go outside and find me something to do when the pretty thing's cleaning the house, and she don't even have to tell me most the time.If so, in what way?
Ever meet an angel, or do you get your data from the tales of others who claim to've did?I talk to many people who go around perfectly contented, just knowing that because they obey the law, never actually kill anyone nor steal nor do anything much to offend, it makes them like the angels.
Even the pretty thing knows if she don't want me to do something, telling her sister to tell her friend to tell her mother to tell her baker to print a book to have Rose2020 to tell me not to do it ain't gonna work.Wrong! They ought to examine themselves closely. Not one of us can get through a day without sinning. Maybe not even a hour. I certainly can't.
Then quit picking on us bunch for not being it.Jesus here clearly states only God is good.
I have no interest hanging out in a sinless, funless Hell of Christian busy bodies.There are lots of people who assume that they are good and therefore will automatically be welcomed into heaven.
I assume my deceased loved ones are in the process of decay.The only apparent qualification required is to die. They assume their deceased loved ones sprouted wings up there despite never giving God a passing thought.
And now, as we pass the plate, y'all need to give until it hurts, cause I got my eyes on me a new jet.In this reading Jesus clearly says in verse 26 that it is humanly impossible. Only through God is it made possible. Of course later we learn that Jesus is the only way.
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