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Post #1This is all true and there is little the citizens of America can do about it. In America we have the right to bear arms. It is in our bill of rights as citizens of the USA.
And having said that, there is one power our President has. Our President is our commander in chief. He/She is commander over all our military divisions.
The Ar15 was designed, and mass-manufactured for our military for the sole purpose of killing fellow human beings.
Ar15s
Since the AR-15 was designed and manufactured under the direction of our Commander and Chef,
the President of the USA, Joe Biden could order the recall of all military firearms as property of our military.
I vote for it
How about you--?
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Post #11Didn't you see the lockdowns we had?Athetotheist wrote: ↑Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:49 pm [Replying to Wootah in post #7I guess that's what makes Australia one big barbed-wire-enclosed gulag.....For me, it is all about the fact that every known power across history removes weapons from the population in order to control it.
Ask the aborigines if they wish they had guns 200 years ago.
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Post #12https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/25/worl ... itain.htmlWootah wrote: ↑Mon Jul 11, 2022 11:01 pmDidn't you see the lockdowns we had?Athetotheist wrote: ↑Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:49 pm [Replying to Wootah in post #7I guess that's what makes Australia one big barbed-wire-enclosed gulag.....For me, it is all about the fact that every known power across history removes weapons from the population in order to control it.
Ask the aborigines if they wish they had guns 200 years ago.
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Post #13Ask these victims and their loved ones if they wish Salvador Ramos didn't have a firearm:
Makenna Lee Elrod, 10
Layla Salazar, 11
Maranda Mathis, 11
Nevaeh Bravo, 10
Jose Manuel Flores Jr., 10
Xavier Lopez, 10
Tess Marie Mata, 10
Rojelio Torres, 10
Eliahna “Ellie” Amyah Garcia, 9
Eliahna A. Torres, 10
Annabell Guadalupe Rodriguez, 10
Jackie Cazares, 9
Uziyah Garcia
Jayce Carmelo Luevanos, 10
Maite Yuleana Rodriguez, 10
Jailah Nicole Silguero, 10
Irma Garcia, 48
Eva Mireles, 44
Amerie Jo Garza, 10
Alexandria “Lexi” Aniyah Rubio, 10
Alithia Ramirez, 10
Of course, we can pretend that what happened 200 years ago has any bearing on today's reality, or we can discuss today's crisis.
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Post #14[Replying to Tcg in post #13]
One murder is a tragedy a million a statistic.
Anyway I posted. I would rather 30 dead per day in a mass shooting than 1 million dead in a genocide.
Both seem more preventable with guns than without.
Edit: Given the state of reality in July 2022 ask those victims why they weren't protected by armed guards.
Edit 2: We know why. Leftist politics.
One murder is a tragedy a million a statistic.
Anyway I posted. I would rather 30 dead per day in a mass shooting than 1 million dead in a genocide.
Both seem more preventable with guns than without.
Edit: Given the state of reality in July 2022 ask those victims why they weren't protected by armed guards.
Edit 2: We know why. Leftist politics.
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Post #15Nope, this is not what you said. You stated something about 200 years ago.Wootah wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 3:22 am [Replying to Tcg in post #13]
One murder is a tragedy a million a statistic.
Anyway I posted. I would rather 30 dead per day in a mass shooting than 1 million dead in a genocide.
This doesn't match your earlier claim either, you implied if aboriginals had guns 200 years ago their subjugation wouldn't have happened.
Both seem more preventable with guns than without.
Edit: Given the state of reality in July 2022 ask those victims why they weren't protected by armed guards.
I'd love to see evidence for this claim but am quite sure it won't be forthcoming.Edit 2: We know why. Leftist politics.
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Post #16TCG - I meant this by earlier.Wootah wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 7:03 pm Here is a hypothetical.
Suppose a genocide kills 1 million people and suppose it is preventable by the 1 million people having guns but the cost of owning guns is 30 deaths per day from shootings.
It would take 1,000,000 / 30 = 33,333 days or 33,333 / 365 = 91 years to equal that genocide death toll.
I prefer the shootings.
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Post #17[Replying to Wootah in post #14
I think I may have brought this up elsewhere, but here it is again:Given the state of reality in July 2022 ask those victims why they weren't protected by armed guards.
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Post #18Proverbs 18:17 The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.
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Post #19This late night tv is quoting statistics, and late night tv in general not being "what it was" is irrelevant. Can we agree on that?Wootah wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 8:42 am [Replying to Athetotheist in post #17]
Late night tv is not what it was. We can agree on that.
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Post #20OK so if I watch 26 minutes of John Oliver, something no person in history has done, what will you do for me?Athetotheist wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 8:49 amThis late night tv is quoting statistics, and late night tv in general not being "what it was" is irrelevant. Can we agree on that?Wootah wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 8:42 am [Replying to Athetotheist in post #17]
Late night tv is not what it was. We can agree on that.
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