Hello everyone;
I just wanted to thank the person that wel;comed me, and also let all know something about who I am and what I believe to be an absolute truth. IF WE Have no absolute TRUTH WE HAVE NO TRUTH AT ALL.
FOR ONE CANNOT HAVE A TRUTH and IT still be A LIE, NOT CAN ONE HAVE A LIE and it also be a TRUTH.
YOU either have to have a TRUTH TOLD TO YOU AND RECIEVED or a LIE TOLD TO YOU AND RECIEVED.
Personally I would rather have a truth told to me then have someone tell me a lie. Especially when it comes to the TRUTH of who and what and how I ever came into this world and have this life I am now living to begin with.
That being the case I have always believed that GOD IS!, I truely can testify to you that I have never DOUBTED THAT GOD WAS, IS, AND ALWAYS will be MY LORD, and HE IS THE CREATOR of all that has ever been, made, or for that matter will be made even after I am no longer here. .
If The HOLY BIBLE, Is not The true INHERENT WORD that THE LORD HAS HAD WRITTEN for US ALL TO BELIEVE , READ, LEARN , AND LIVE BY FAITH IN HIM. THROUGH HIM and BY HIM. THEN WE ARE IN TROUBLE..
MALACHI 3;16:
WE ALL KNOW THAT WE ALL HAVE A BETTER HOPE AND A PROMISE OF SOMETHING MUCH BETTER THEN what THIS LIFE HAS HAD TO OFFER TO US . WE whom have believed and do believe and will believe have a better hope.. THEN wars, rumors of wars, famines, deseases, earthquakes, hurricanes, tornadoes, sunamies , and death forever and ever and ever . NO I AND ALL WE whom HAVE believed, Confessed, THE TRUTH OF THE GOSPEL, THE GOOD NEWS, OF THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD, THE NAME ABOVE ALL OTHER NAMES, THE NAME THAT ALL MEN MAY BE SAVED AND HAVE SALVATION BY, JESUS the RISEN CHRIST, whom has come in the flesh.
IF you have no hope IN ANYTHING better then what You have NOW then I AM sorry for you , FORGIVE YOU, and LOVE YOU ANYWAY.
WHY???? BECAUSE I have read what the LORD has had WRITTEN for me and you and I KNOW what the ROYAL COMMANDMENT IS..
I honestly do not believe that many even know what the ROYAL commandment is.. THE ONES THAT DO.. DO NOT FOLLOW IT .. FOR THE MOST PART.
BUT HEY DO NOT KICK YOURSELF IN THE BUTT TO HARD. NEVER TO LATE TO FIND OUT AND THEN JUST DO IT AND FOLLOW WHAT HAS BEEN THERE ALL THE TIME. OK????
BEEN THERE DONE THAT MORE THEN ONCE. and I more then likely will be there again before I die.. OH YA I will die someday.. FOR TO SIN means to DIE BECAUSE GOD CANNOT LIE. BUT REMEMBER THIS . HE GAVE HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON THAT whosoever believes in HIM shall not PERISH but have LIFE ETERNALLY .. BEING REDEEMED and RETURNED TO THAT whom has given us life IN THE BEGINNING. OK???
IF WE CANNOT believe this .. , "IN THE BEGINNG GOD CREATED the HEAVENS and the EARTH ." THEN WE HAVE NO TRUTH and we have no HOPE and NO PROMISE, WHAT A TERRIBLE DEVISTATEING VISION and THOUGHT to have to deal with. when NONE OF OUR LIVES have been all that great we all have SINNED . BUT WE DO NOT HAVE TO continue in what we KNOW IS NOT GOOD AND RIGHT TO DO WE???? anyway not ON PURPOSE and willingly right???
AHHH BUT THANKS BE TO GOD FOR THE BLOOD,, THAT WAS SHED FOR US ALL .. I DO NOT HOWEVER BELIEVE THAT GRACE GIVES ANY OF US A LICENSE TO CONTINUE IN OUR SIN when we know what THE SIN WE DO IS SIN.. WE ALL should be aware that THE TEN COMMANDMENTS are for a reason!!!!!! AND THEY should not be taken from us any of us!!!!
MAYBE it would do well for those that hate the JEWISH STATE OF ISRAEL .. SHOULD REMEMBER THESE THAT GOD GAVE MOSES.. AND MAYBE WE ALL should HUMBLE OURSELVES AS NATIONS!!! (PEOPLE!!)
AND PRAY TO OUR LORD THY GOD OUR FATHER IN HEAVEN. OUR CREATOR AND MAYBE JUST MAYBE HE WILL HEAL OUR LANDS!!! AND ONCE AGAIN FORGIVE HIS CHILDREN FOR THEIR IGNORANCE!!!!!!!
FOR GOD AFTER ALL IS the GOD OF NOT JUST AMERICANS!!!!!!! THE LAND OF THE FREE AND THE HOME OF THE BRAVE, BUT HE IS THE GOD OF ABRAHAM, ISAAC, and JACOB... THIS I BELIEVE INCLUDES EVERY COLOR AND PEOPLE ON THE FACE OF THIS EARTH HE HAS CREATED !!!!!!!!
THINK ABOUT IT BELIEVE IT RECIEVE IT AND SPREAD THE GOOD NEWS OF THE GOSPEL THAT IS FOR US ALL NOT JUST FOR WE WHOM HAVE BELIEVED DO BELIEVEC IN ONE LORD< ONE FAITH< AND ONE BAPTISM .. THE HOLY SCRIPTURES THAT WE CALL THE HOLY BIBLE . THE BOOK OF BOOKS THAT THE LORD HAS HAD WRITTEN FOR US ALL TO READ BELIEVE AND LEARN OF HIM US AND OUR HISTORY!!!!!!
GENESIS 1; ----2; 4: OLD TESTAMENT the PROPHECY of THAT WHOM HAS COME. BEING FULFILLED IN THE NEW TESTAMENT and IS REVEALED in REVELATION...
and is also TESTIFIED OF BY BILLIONS THIS VERY DAY!!!!!!!!!!!
MAY GOD NOT ONLY BLESS AMERICA but may HIS TRUTH and GLORY REIGN forever IN HIS KINGDOM..
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Re: That problem can be eliminated
Post #11McCulloch wrote:It has been written that Jesus said, "Let your statement be, 'Yes, yes' or 'No, no'; anything beyond these is of evil." Unless, I have a huge comprehensive reading problem, it looks as if one of the teachings of Jesus and his followers is that they should honour commitments that they have voluntarily entered into and should conduct themselves honestly and with integrity.
When Suzanne (or any other debater) registers on this site, they agree to abide by the posted rules of this site. One of those rules is that debaters should support their assertions and arguments with evidence. This is a very reasonable rule, after all, how can you convince debaters about the truth of your position without providing your arguments with evidence.
Suzanne has claimed that the manner and content of her posts are not entirely from her but from the Holy Spirit.Now the New Testament writer identified as John, in 1 John chapter 4 wrote:Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God; and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God; this is the spirit of the antichrist, of which you have heard that it is coming, and now it is already in the world.
And yet she claims that the Holy Spirit is directing her not to debate God's word. How can it be that the Holy Spirit is directing Suzanne to violate her commitment to abide by the reasonable rules established by Christians on this site? Is she being deceived by another spirit?
I do not see anywhere in the statement of The Word in Gods Book, That Says I have to DEBATE GOD OR HIS WORD. IF I am HIS TO DO HIS WILL!! Then I am here to speak what He tells me to speak Not what MEN THAT MAY BE NOT OF GOD wants me to speak. I happen to believe that God would not have me lie to you or anyone else. and testify to something or someone that I have not believed is a reality and is present in my life.
Now GOD being a SPIRIT an UNSEEN?? then How are WE as MERE MEN and WOMAN supposed to tell the difference between ONE WHOM IS Of GOD and HIS SPIRIT and someone that is NOT OF GOD and is of the anti-Christ.
YOU SEE it before your own eyes yourself, DISCERNING, DISCERNMENT of the Spirit that is OF GOD and one that is OF the anti-Christ.
I DO COME INTO the internet and testify to all that God HIMSELF HAS REVEALED TO ME THROUGH HIS HOLY SPIRIT FOR GOD being a SPIRIT does witnesss to OUR our spirit (SOUL) Now because I have faith IN MY LORD GOD , and do believe in CHRIST JESUS AS being the only begotten Son of God that has COME IN THE FLESH TO THIS EARTH TO SUFFER and die shedding HIS BLOOD for me being ONCE BURIED IN A TOMB and then has RISEN AND is WITH THE FATHER IN HEAVEN this very day HE HAS COME IN the FLESH and IS THE CHRIST the SON OF GOD. and HE HAS promised IN HIS WORD HE HAS HAD WRITTEN OF HIMSELF, that He would send that Comforter THAT HOLY SPIRIT THAT COMFORTERTHAT HELPER THEN YES I HAPPEN to also take His word for that and I KNOW without any doubting whatsoever that His word and His faithfulness to HIS WORD is TRUTH. NOW for anyone that doubts MY WORD OF TESTIMONY OF THIS JESUS THIS CHRIST THIS SON OF GOD THIS BAPTISM HE PROMISED TO WHOSOEVER SHOULD BELIEVE IN HIM and HIS TRUTH , FAITHFULNESS, AND HIS WRITTEN WORD BY THOSE THAT COME TESTIFYING ON HIM BECAUSE they already HAVE known and do know HIM on a real and personal basis BECAUSE OF this PROPHECIED PROMISED and FULLFILLED PROMISE THEN MANIFESTED AND GIVEN TO ALL OF US THAT COME with the GOSPEL OF the CROSS???? well WHAT YOU DO TO THE LEAST OF THESE YOU DO TO ME SAYETH THE LORD ,
I have come in here on this internet and been on this internet for tenm years DOING WHAT the holy Spirit of GOD GUIDES and DIRECTS and GIVES ME TO TELL any and all that HE BRINGS BEFORE ME in this path and walk in this land and In this PHYSICAL BODY THAT would have no LIFE AT ALL if it were not for MY HEAVENLY FATHER GOD ALMIGHTY and THE SHED BLOOD OF HIS SON THE RISEN CHRIST. anyone that chooses to disregard HIS TRUTH when it is told to them BY someone that HAS come with all honesty not lying about why and who and what I am . Which is a SINNER JUST AS ALL ARE SINNERS by being TRANSFORMED (BEING BORN AGAIN OF HIS SPIRIT,) and LIVING BY FAITH IN HIS PROMISE AND HIS WORD TO BE FAITHFUL TO HIS WORD, being GIVEN a NEW HEART, and a RENEWED MIND That is that of HIS MIND and HIS TRUTH and HIS LOVE and HIS WAY to LIVE and walk and speak and DO.
IF this is not believed when the evidence of what I have spoken is truth according to the VERY WRITTEN WORD OF HIS BOOK OF BOOKS HE HAS HAD WRITTEN FOR ALL TO READ AND KNOW OF HIM . THEN I can NEITHER MAKE YOU or anyone believe anything that is of the heavens above when you do not believe this ONE THAT IS AS you are a SINNER YET TRANSFORMED BY GOD not of my own will and doing. FOR THIS IS NOT DONE BY OUR WILL BUT BY THE WILL OF GOD . It is the one miracle that even I have no explaination other then to TESTIFY OF HIM , and THIS TRUTH and HIS BAPTISM HE DOES did and will GIVE to any and all that DO NOT DENY HIM. FOR if HE IS DENIED TO BE REAL and PRESENT IN MY LIFE then I LIE. and THAT is ONE OF THE MIRACLES OF GOD HIS BAPTSM LITERALLY DOES CHANGE US from what we were on the inside to what can be seen and manifested to those who KNOW TRUTH OF who we were before by all that know who we were before we recieved , have believed, and confessed JESUS AS CHRIST the only begotten SON OF GOD whom yes came in the flesh TO DIE FOR YOU as well as for me .
yes I forgive any and all that have not faith to believe because that just means they have not recieved HIS BAPTISM AS YET. AND CAN they IF THEY DENY the SON, BECAUSE TO DENY THE SON is to also deny the FATHER ALSO AND THE FATHER IS WAS AND ALWAYS WILL BE THE ONLY GOD and HE and HIS FACE CANNOT BE SEEN BY NO MAN UNLESS HE DIE. BUT BECAUSE GOD is a SPIRIT and HE is HOLY, and because of OUR FAITH without this NONE CAN PLEASE GOD. WE have believed, BY FAITH and LIVE BY THAT FAITH NOT BY THE LAW GIVEN TO MOSES but BY THE COMMANDMEND GIVEN BY the ONLY BEGOTTEN. LOVE GOD , with all your heart with all your SOUL and with all you mind, and THE ROYAL LAW OF THE KING! LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.
WE always come out of LOVE FOR OUR LORD GOD OUR HEAVENLY FATHER , BUT BECAUSE OF OUR LOVE FOR ALL OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS , that are still outside THE KINGDOM. JUST AS WHEN JACOB, ON HIS JOURNEY TRAVELS, HE RESTED HIS HEAD and when He OPENED HIS EYES he saw a ladder EXTENDED FROM HEAVEN above him. maybe some of you can read about JACOBS LADDER.. THEN MAYBE YOU should read what is written IN the NEW TESTAMENT about NEVER NEGLECT TO ENTERTAIN A STRANGER,
WELL NONE ARE ANY MORE STRANGERS and STRANGE THEN THOSE who come with the message of the CROSS, WE HAVE COME TO TESTIFY OF THAT THE TRUTH, THE WORD is FULFILLED AGAIN by saying in
1Cor 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
People in the forums about THE WRITTEN WORD of GOD, the HOLY SCRIPTURES, are all SEEKING ONE THING. ANSWERS TO THEIR QUESTIONS about GOD, HIS WORD, HIS HOLY SPIRIT, THESE THREE WITNESS in heaven and are ONE.
THERE ARE THREE that witness on earth. THE Spirit, the Water, and THE Blood. and THESE THREE AGREE AS ONE.
maybe that is why we whom are BORN again HAVE THE GIFT OF DISCERNMENT, and KNOW OF WHO IS OF GOD and HIS SPIRIT and who is NOT YET BORN AGAIN.
Therefore thus saith the LORD God of Israel against the pastors that feed my people; Ye have scattered my flock, and driven them away, and have not visited them: behold, I will visit upon you the evil of your doings, saith the LORD. And I will gather the remnant of my flock out of all countries whither I have driven them, and will bring them again to their folds; and they shall be fruitful and increase. Son of man, prophesy against the shepherds of Israel, prophesy, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD unto the shepherds; Woe be to the shepherds of Israel that do feed themselves! should not the shepherds feed the flocks? Ye eat the fat, and ye clothe you with the wool, ye kill them that are fed: but ye feed not the flock. The diseased have ye not strengthened, neither have ye healed that which was sick, neither have ye bound up that which was broken, neither have ye brought again that which was driven away, neither have ye sought that which was lost; but with force and with cruelty have ye ruled them. And they were scattered, because there is no shepherd: and they became meat to all the beasts of the field, when they were scattered. My sheep wandered through all the mountains, and upon every high hill: yea, my flock was scattered upon all the face of the earth, and none did search or seek after them. Therefore, ye shepherds, hear the word of the LORD; As I live, saith the Lord GOD, surely because my flock became a prey, and my flock became meat to every beast of the field, because there was no shepherd, neither did my shepherds search for my flock, but the shepherds fed themselves, and fed not my flock; Therefore, O ye shepherds, hear the word of the LORD; Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against the shepherds; and I will require my flock at their hand, and cause them to cease from feeding the flock; neither shall the shepherds feed themselves any more; for I will deliver my flock from their mouth, that they may not be meat for them. For thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I, even I, will both search my sheep, and seek them out. As a shepherd seeketh out his flock in the day that he is among his sheep [that are] scattered; so will I seek out my sheep, and will deliver them out of all places where they have been scattered in the cloudy and dark day. And I will bring them out from the people, and gather them from the countries, and will bring them to their own land, and feed them upon the mountains of Israel by the rivers, and in all the inhabited places of the country. I will feed them in a good pasture, and upon the high mountains of Israel shall their fold be: there shall they lie in a good fold, and in a fat pasture shall they feed upon the mountains of Israel. I will feed my flock, and I will cause them to lie down, saith the Lord GOD. I will seek that which was lost, and bring again that which was driven away, and will bind up that which was broken, and will strengthen that which was sick: but I will destroy the fat and the strong; I will feed them with judgment. And as for you, O my flock, thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I judge between cattle and cattle, between the rams and the he goats. Seemeth it a small thing unto you to have eaten up the good pasture, but ye must tread down with your feet the residue of your pastures? and to have drunk of the deep waters, but ye must foul the residue with your feet? And as for my flock, they eat that which ye have trodden with your feet; and they drink that which ye have fouled with your feet. Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD unto them; Behold, I, even I, will judge between the fat cattle and between the lean cattle.Because ye have thrust with side and with shoulder, and pushed all the diseased with your horns, till ye have scattered them abroad; Therefore will I save my flock, and they shall no more be a prey; and I will judge between cattle and cattle. And I will set up one shepherd over them, and he shall feed them, even my servant David; he shall feed them, and he shall be their shepherd. And I the LORD will be their God, and my servant David a prince among them; I the LORD have spoken it. And I will make with them a covenant of peace, and will cause the evil beasts to cease out of the land: and they shall dwell safely in the wilderness, and sleep in the woods.
And I will make them and the places round about my hill a blessing; and I will cause the shower to come down in his season; there shall be showers of blessing.And the tree of the field shall yield her fruit, and the earth shall yield her increase, and they shall be safe in their land, and shall know that I am the LORD, when I have broken the bands of their yoke, and delivered them out of the hand of those that served themselves of them.
And they shall no more be a prey to the heathen, neither shall the beast of the land devour them; but they shall dwell safely, and none shall make them afraid. And I will raise up for them a plant of renown, and they shall be no more consumed with hunger in the land, neither bear the shame of the heathen any more. Thus shall they know that I the LORD their God am with them, and that they, even the house of Israel, are my people, saith the Lord GOD. And ye my flock, the flock of my pasture, are men, and I am your God, saith the Lord GOD.
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Re: That problem can be eliminated
Post #12I have never claimed that the Bible has any specific directions to debate God's word. However, the Bible does plainly say that Jesus taught that you should behave with integrity and honesty and you should live up to any commitments you have made voluntarily. You have voluntarily committed to support their assertions and arguments with evidence. I, as a seeker after truth, am simply asking you not to dishonour the name of your religion by disobeying the teachings of the Founder of your faith and breaking the very reasonable commitment you have made. Your unwillingness to support your assertions and arguments with evidence could easily be seen as evidence by those who you are trying to reach that you cannot provide any evidence for your beliefs, that your faith is irrational and unreasonable. Your willingness to be unfaithful to your commitments could easily be seen as evidence that you are faithless and untrustworthy.Suzanne wrote:I do not see anywhere in the statement of The Word in Gods Book, That Says I have to DEBATE GOD OR HIS WORD.
It just seems strange to me that the Holy Spirit would guide you to be unfaithful to the agreement which you entered into voluntarily with another Christian. Your Spirit seems to be contradicting the instructions of your Christ. Now, I would have expected that if the Spirit of God himself were directing any one to post on this site, He would render more convincing arguments, provide better evidence and at least manage to get the grammar and spelling correct. Maybe He is not omnipotent and omniscient.Suzanne wrote:I have come in here on this internet and been on this internet for tenm years DOING WHAT the holy Spirit of GOD GUIDES and DIRECTS and GIVES ME TO TELL any and all that HE BRINGS BEFORE ME in this path and walk in this land and In this PHYSICAL BODY THAT would have no LIFE AT ALL if it were not for MY HEAVENLY FATHER GOD ALMIGHTY and THE SHED BLOOD OF HIS SON THE RISEN CHRIST.
You see, we are not disregarding any truth. We are just waiting to be shown why we should believe that what you say is truth. The word for that is evidence. I think that we might be able to take you a bit more seriously if the spirit that apparently guides you did not guide you to sin right here.Suzanne wrote:anyone that chooses to disregard HIS TRUTH when it is told to them BY someone that HAS come with all honesty not lying about why and who and what I am .
Examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
First Epistle to the Church of the Thessalonians
The truth will make you free.
Gospel of John
First Epistle to the Church of the Thessalonians
The truth will make you free.
Gospel of John
Re: That problem can be eliminated
Post #13McCulloch wrote:I have never claimed that the Bible has any specific directions to debate God's word. However, the Bible does plainly say that Jesus taught that you should behave with integrity and honesty and you should live up to any commitments you have made voluntarily. You have voluntarily committed to support their assertions and arguments with evidence. I, as a seeker after truth, am simply asking you not to dishonour the name of your religion by disobeying the teachings of the Founder of your faith and breaking the very reasonable commitment you have made. Your unwillingness to support your assertions and arguments with evidence could easily be seen as evidence by those who you are trying to reach that you cannot provide any evidence for your beliefs, that your faith is irrational and unreasonable. Your willingness to be unfaithful to your commitments could easily be seen as evidence that you are faithless and untrustworthy.Suzanne wrote:I do not see anywhere in the statement of The Word in Gods Book, That Says I have to DEBATE GOD OR HIS WORD.
It just seems strange to me that the Holy Spirit would guide you to be unfaithful to the agreement which you entered into voluntarily with another Christian. Your Spirit seems to be contradicting the instructions of your Christ. Now, I would have expected that if the Spirit of God himself were directing any one to post on this site, He would render more convincing arguments, provide better evidence and at least manage to get the grammar and spelling correct. Maybe He is not omnipotent and omniscient.Suzanne wrote:I have come in here on this internet and been on this internet for tenm years DOING WHAT the holy Spirit of GOD GUIDES and DIRECTS and GIVES ME TO TELL any and all that HE BRINGS BEFORE ME in this path and walk in this land and In this PHYSICAL BODY THAT would have no LIFE AT ALL if it were not for MY HEAVENLY FATHER GOD ALMIGHTY and THE SHED BLOOD OF HIS SON THE RISEN CHRIST.You see, we are not disregarding any truth. We are just waiting to be shown why we should believe that what you say is truth. The word for that is evidence. I think that we might be able to take you a bit more seriously if the spirit that apparently guides you did not guide you to sin right here.Suzanne wrote:anyone that chooses to disregard HIS TRUTH when it is told to them BY someone that HAS come with all honesty not lying about why and who and what I am .
What you would like me to do is just be all agreeable to the way you believe and think and be just like you by DEBATING GODAND WHAT GOD HAS SAID AND DONE. I cannot CHANGE ANYTHING GOD has said or done and LIVE UP to what I believe is RIGHT AND GOOD TO DO.
What it comes down to is that when a BELIEVER IN THE FATHER, THE WORD, and HIS HOLY SPIRIT BAPTISM all He has said and doen and is doing , and will continue to do IS nothing that any OF US CAN ACTUALLY PROVE to you as showing you a PHYSICAL HEAVENLY FATHER . except by being what HE has made EACH OF US TO BE. BELIEVERS BY FAITH KNOWING THAT HE IS FAITHFUL and true and HE is present in our LIVES in apparently ways that YOU and OTHERS HAVE yet to understand. OPR YOU and I would not be battering back and forth about who and what and why we are here on this earth in the first place would we?? BECAUSE YOU would understand that WE ARE all FAMILY THAT HAVE BEEN AND HAVE OUR BEGINNING WITH GOD, WE all just have OUR own PERSONALITIES BUT you can write this in your little BLACK BOOK make a note and when the time comes you then will remember that you were warned and told that GOD DOES NOT COMPRIMISE when it comes to sin and the WORDS HE HAS said aboyut the sin we are REALLY GUILTY OF . and we all will definitly die . FOR THAT SIN WE RE . and when THE TIME comes remember you were told this . I WILL POUR OUT MY SPIRIT ON ALL FLESH!, YOUR Sons and your daughters, every knee will bow and KNOW I AM LORD, no more will you say to your neighbor KNOW THE LORD for all will know HIM.
My ADVICE is this to you; Read Matthew 22;1:-14:, Romans 3; 13:-22:
Collossions 3;
You want truth.. WE ALL EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US . When we take our last breath IN THIS PHYSICAL SHALL STAND BEFORE OUR FATHER THAT we are of. Judgment day comes to us all...
I have nothing to prove to you nor anyone else. I DID NOT COME IN HERE to prove anything . I came in here as I do with anyplace I go into and post or read. I READ what others are posting and respond accordingly to what is being posted by others. according to the way the HOLY SPIRIOT guides and leads me to say anything .
TRUTH IS you are doing the same thing you are resonding to what i post. wanting me to prove GOD???? TO YOU? OR PROVE TO YOU THAT I AM WHO I SAY I AM someone that believes in the GOSPEL as it has been written of and taught , read and spoken of by many long before any of us were ever here. when it comes down to the truth>> WE all have to choose to believe one another in what the other is saying to us. and decide if what is being said is a true statement or a lie.. THAT basically is all I do I make a statement pretaining to what someone else has posted when it has to do with SCRIPTURE, OR what GOD has said or done and is doing. and will continue to do. FOR GOD REALLY IS A FOREVER GOD is HE or is HE NOT??? GOD IS EITHER REAL , OR NOT REAL . GOD IS EITHER OUR CREATOR OR HE IS NOT NOW whether you agree with that or disagree with that is up to you and the CHOICE YOU MAKE ABOUT whether He is or isn't makes a big difference to you but at as long as YOU HAVE been told by ME THE TRUTH OF what I ACTUALLY KNOW TO BE A TRUTH ABOUT GOD AND HIS WORD AND HIS REALITY IN MY LIFE.. then YOU have been warned FORGIVEN and I move on when I am shown that DEBATE ABOUT THIS IS wanted for GODS WORD IS NOT UP FOR DEBATE ONLY TO THOSE THAT do not know HIM ON A REAL and PRESENT WAY . it is called a RELATIONSHIP with HIM having FAITH WITH ABSOLUTELY no doubting about who HE IS what He has said and done for us and KNOWING who we are IN HIM...
If that is to honest and boldly put and said for you I AM SORRY . HONEST YES I AM especially when it comes to MY LORD AND SAVIOR AND WHO I AM AS SOMEONE whom has does and will believe the GIOSPEL THAT IS written of and taught IN THE HOLY BIBLE BY ALL Those that have WRITTEN OF THIS CREATION HEAVENLY FATHER GOD ALMIGHTY AND HIS PROMISED ONLY BEGOTTEN THAT PROMISED MESSIAH that was prophecied to come in the OLD TESTAMENT, FULFILLED in the NEW TESTAMENT, and REVEALED TO ALL WHAT WAS IS AND IS TO COME AGAIN. IN THE BOOK OF REVELATION. I think IF YOU READ IT YOU will find SCRIPTURE that REVEALS the BOOKS WERE OPENED, and ANOTHER BOOK WAS OPENED.
Dan 7:10 A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened.
Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is [the book] of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
Concidering that In Malachi 3;16: WE READ this.
Mal 3:16 Then they that feared the LORD spake often one to another: and the LORD hearkened, and heard [it], and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name.
Exd 17:14 And the LORD said unto Moses, Write this [for] a memorial in a book, and rehearse [it] in the ears of Joshua: for I will utterly put out the remembrance of Amalek from under heaven.
Deu 17:18 And it shall be, when he sitteth upon the throne of his kingdom, that he shall write him a copy of this law in a book out of [that which is] before the priests the Levites:
1Sa 10:25 Then Samuel told the people the manner of the kingdom, and wrote [it] in a book, and laid [it] up before the LORD. And Samuel sent all the people away, every man to his house.
2Ki 20:20 And the rest of the acts of Hezekiah, and all his might, and how he made a pool, and a conduit, and brought water into the city, [are] they not written in the book of the chronicles of the kings of Judah?
Ezr 4:15 That search may be made in the book of the records of thy fathers: so shalt thou find in the book of the records, and know that this city [is] a rebellious city, and hurtful unto kings and provinces, and that they have moved sedition within the same of old time: for which cause was this city destroyed.
Dan 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation [even] to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
Just for discussion if that is what you want..
IF GOD IS NOT, OUR CREATOR HEAVENLY FATHER, THE WORD WE HAVE HAD DOWN THROUGH HOW MANY GENERATIONS???? AGES??? YEARS???
IF the O.T and the N. T. and the BOOK of REVELATION is not REAL. and IS NOT THE BOOK OF BOOKS THAT IS MENTIONED IN that VERY BOOK OF MANY BOOKS WRITTEN BY YES SOMEONE RIGHT?? HOW DID MOSES WRITE THE FIRST FIVE BOOKS OF THE OLD TESTAMENT THAT WAS A RECORDED PERIOD OF TIME WITH MANY GENERATIONS OF MANKIND . Ending with the DEATH OF MOSES and HIM giving BLESSINGS TO ISRAEL and
THEN THE NEXT BOOK Joshua Takes up from there with the LORD then SPEAKING TO THIS JOSHUA, and In 1; The LORD TELLS what TO do and what LAND HE IS GIVING THEM.. If you read the area that is GIVEN TO ISRAEL, and CHECK IT OUT with the map of then and now. YOU will soon realize that ISRAEL still does not have all that land they are to possess.
YET THEIR MESSIAH THAT WAS PROPHECIED TO COME??? well HE HAS come, HE HAS SUFFERED AND DIED and HAS BEEN RISEN , and THE HOLY SPIRIT IS STILL REAL AND PRESENT TO THIS VERY DAY,
NOW LET ME ASK YOU something. IS the FATHER GOD CREATOR OF ALL and IN ALL . REAL AND PRESENT TO THIS DAY?? BEING OUR LORD CREAOR SAVIOR FORGIVER OF OUR SIN HAVING GIVEN ALL HE HAD TO GIVE TO SAVE THE WORLD HE HAS CREATED AND ALL THOSE THAT ARE HIS> OR NOT?? IF the FATHER , THE ONLY BEGOTTEN , and THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT REAL AND THE LORD GOD IS NOT AND THE BOOK HAS NOT BEEN WRITTEN,, AND WHAT HAS BEEN WRITTEN IS ALL A MYTH, JUST A NOTHING TO BE BELIEVED OR TRUSTED OR TO LIVE BY AND THEIR IS NO TRUTH AT ALL IN THE BEGINNING GOD! CREATED THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH , AND THERE WAS NO SHED BLOOD, NO ONLY BEGOTYTEN THAT CAME TO DIE FOR YOU OR I . BECAUSE OF THE SIN OF MANKIND. THEN WHAT AND HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN US THE WICKEDNESS AND EVIL THAT IS BEFOERE US EACH AND EVERY DAY> AND MOST OF ALL IF THE HOLY SPIRIT NEVER EXISTED THEN HOW WAS IT THAT MALACHI 3;16: was EVEN WRITTEN, and HOW COME so much that is written in that very BOOK OF BOOKS THAT IS THE LAST BOOK IS ALSO WRITTEN OF . BUT YET THIS is also a TRUTH THERE IS NO END TO THE BOOKS THAT CAN BE WRITTEN ABOUT what the LORD HATH SAID and done. BECAUSE HE IS REAL AND HE IS PRESENT . and NO BODY CAN CHANGE THAT . UNLESS OF COURSE YOU PREFER TO TELL ME that YOU DENY it all . and YOU DO NOT AGREE that GOD IS AND THERE IS NO OTHER GOD BUT HIM.. FATHER, SON, WORD, and HOLY SPIRIT THREE WITNESS IN HEAVEN and as HE HAS HAD WRITTEN, SAID, and TAUGHT, DENY THE SON, and YOU ALSO DENY THE FATHER and IN DENYING THEM , YOU ALSO DENY THE HOLY SPIRIT.
IT always COMES down to this CHOICE RIGHT???? CHOOSE TO DENY OR RECIEVE THE TRUTH OF GOD . and HIS WORD and HIS SPIRIT OR DENY THEM ALL... FOR it is ONE OR THE OTHER. YOU cannot CHOOSE TO DENY JESUS CHRIST WHOM HAS COME, DIED, AND ROSE AGAIN, ACCORDING TO THE BOOK AND BELIEVE THAT THE OLD TESTAMENT PROPHETS LIED about this COMING SAVIOR REDEEMER, TO DO SO is to then DENY THE NEW TESTAMENT, that PROVES THE OLD TESTAMENT TO BE THE FULFILLING OF the PROPHETS PROPHECY of the COMING KING , MESSIAH, THE REDEEMER SAVIOR THAT HAS RISEN AND has ASCENDED TO THE FATHER IN HEAVEN and TO THIS DAY HIS PRESENCE CAN BE HAD AND KNOWN AND RECIEVED BY ANY THAT ARE WILLING TO BELIEVE, CONFESS, and RECIEVE. FOR IF DENIAL is YOUR OR ANYONES CHOICE?????? THEN SO BE IT. BUT CHOOSE ONE MUST DO SOONER OR LATER.
IT IS ALWAYS AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN a CHOICE FOR US AS MANKIND TO MAKE.. IF THE HOLY SPIRIT BAPTISM, IS NOT A REALITY FOR WE WHOM COME TESTIFYING OF THIS VERY TRUTH, CANNOT BE BELIEVED when we come telling of ouir expierences and our story of what we know has happened in our lives BECAUSE OF FAITH!!! IN WHAT WE HAVE READ, HEARD ABOUT,and yes taught, BELIEVED CONFESSED and RECIEVED and THEN EXPIERENCED, and come to know.. GOD WAS THE ONE THAT GAVE THE MAN CHOICE TO BEGIN WITH. HE MADE THE WRONG CHOICE!!! AND FOR THAT WRONG CHOICE MAN AND WOMAN FLESH AND BLOOD MEN AND WOMAN DIE!!! ONCE!!!! BECAUSE GOD HAS TO KEEP HIS WORD!!! AND HE TOLD ADAM IF YOU EAT OF THE FRUIT OF THAT TREE OF KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND EVIL YOU SHALL SURELY DIE. HE DID NOT AND DOES NOT LIE!!! WE DIE.
THERE IS ONLY ONE THAT HAS NOT DIED AND STAYED DEAD IN THE TOMB AFTER BEING BURIED!! AND HE SHALL RETURN AGAIN SOMEDAY.. JUST AS IT HAS BEEN WRITTEN .. and HIS REWARD WILL BE WITH HIM.
IF HE DID NOT RISE "RESURRECTION " AND THERE IS NO RESURRECTION . THEN THAT TRUELY LEAVES US IN A VERY BAD WAY I WOULD SAY. FOR WE ARE ALREADY DEAD FOREVER AND EVER AND THE RESURRECTION OF CHRIST IS NOT A TRUTH AND THE BAPTISM OF HIS HOLY SPIRIT COMFORTER IS NOT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE GIVEN HAPPENS TO ANYONE. AND WORSE WE NONE OF US HAVE ANY HOPE AT ALL OF THAT LIFE ETERNALLY BEING REDEEMED NOR CAN THERE EVER BE ANY FORGIVENESS FOR ANY OF US> AND WE ALL NEED THAT UNLESS PEOPLE WANT TO DENY THAT SIN EXISTS?????
AND EVIDENCE IS IT DOES EXIST..
GRACE!!!!!!! YES WE ARE SAVED BY GRACE!! BUT I HONESTLY DO NOT BELIEVE THAT GRACE MEANS . THAT ONCE WE COME TO UNDERSTAND THE TRUTH OF THE GOSPEL!! AND WHAT GOD HAS SAID SIN IS AND WHAT HE HAS SAID IS ABOMINATIONS TO HIM> THEN HOW CAN WE CONTINUE DOING WHAT WE KNOW GOD DISPISES< IF WE WANT TO PLEASE HIM AND DO HIS WILL!!!!! .. AND WHAT IS HIS WILL???
THAT WE NOT PERISH. YET IT HAS BEEN WRITTEN, IN HIS BOOK HE HAS HAD WRITTEN..
Hsa 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.
Isa 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight! Woe unto them that are mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to mingle strong drink: Which justify the wicked for reward, and take away the righteousness of the righteous from him! Therefore is the anger of the LORD kindled against his people, and he hath stretched forth his hand against them, and hath smitten them: and the hills did tremble, and their carcases were torn in the midst of the streets. For all this his anger is not turned away, but his hand is stretched out still.
Job 24:1 Why, seeing times are not hidden from the Almighty, do they that know him not see his days?
The murderer rising with the light killeth the poor and needy, and in the night is as a thief.
The eye also of the adulterer waiteth for the twilight, saying, No eye shall see me: and disguiseth his face.
He draweth also the mighty with his power: he riseth up, and no man is sure of life.
Of course now if One does not believe In MALACHI 3;16: and MOSES, GENESIS, MATTHEW, JOHN, OR NONE OF what has been written IS TRUE AT ALL. THEN THAT IS A CHOICE ALL CAN AND DO HAVE .. EVERYBODY CAN BELIEVE IN ANYTHING THEY CHOOSE TO BELIEVE IN OR DENY ANYTHING THEY CHOOSE TO DENY. FREEDOM OF CHOICE!!!!!! and GOD WAS THE ONE TO GIVE THE FIRST MAN CHOICE. HE MADE HIS.
THANK GOD ALMIGHTY HE DID NOT LEAVE IT AS THAT, THANK GOD ALMIGHTY FOR THE CROSS, THE SHED BLOOD, THE GOSPEL.
THE GOSPEL IS FOOLISHNESS TO ALL THOSE THAT ARE PERISHING.
AND THE FOOL HAS SAID , what???
WELL I may not know everything there is to know. about anything. BUT THIS I DO KNOW. I AM NO FOOL!!!!
Although we as CHRISTIANS, BIBLE THUMPERS , WHO BELIEVE AND CONFESS JESUS CHRIST are called many things AND YES MANY HAVE DIED rather then DENY HIS NAME. IMMANUEL, LORD, JESUS, CHRIST, PRINCE OF PEACE, ALMIGHTY, SON OF GOD, SON OF MAN, FATHER, SON, and HOLY SPIRIT, THE WORD OF GOD. HOW ABOUT JEHOVAH
I think it best I leave you all to DEBATE what GOD HAS said and done . I do not debate what I already know is a truth. NO reason to debate HIM. I do enjoy talking of HIM and what HE HAS ACCOMPLISHED and done for us though. BUT FEW ENJOY HEARING WHAT HE HAS ALSO said about the CURSING and all the STUFF WE MUST ENDURE .. NOR MOST OF ALL HATE TO BE TOLD WHAT they are doing that just makes their life worse FOR THEM IN THE LONG RUN. NOT THAT NONE OF US HAVE NOT been there done that . FOR TO DO ONE SIN IS TO BE GUILTY OF ALL . and who has not LIED and KNOW THAT THAT is what they do.. BUT MY POINT IS NONE HAVE TO LIE, STEAL, COMMIT MURDER, OR DO ANYTHING THEY KNOW IS NOT GOOD AND RIGHT AND IS A SINFUL THING TO DO!!! HOW MANY TIMES DOES A PERSON HAVE TO BE TOLOD IT IS WRONG TO LIE, TAKE THINGS THAT ARE NOT YOURS WITHOUT ASKING FROM ANOTHER. CAN WE NOT DO THESE THINGS. MANY HAVE NOT STOLEN FROM OTHERS, MANY HAVE NOT MURDERERD ANYONE, BUT ALL HAVE LIED!!!!!!! AND IF ANYONE SAYS THEY HAVE NEVER TOLD A LIE .. THEY LIE!!!!!!!!!!!!! BUT THEY DO NOT HAVE TO CONTINUE TO LIE. CHOICES WE ALL HAVE TO MAKE THEM. and we all will PAY EVENTUALLY FOR the choices we make .. IF THEY ARE NOT THE RIGHT CHOICES WHEN WE REALLY DO NOW BETTER THEN TO MAKE THAT CHOICE.
EVERYBODY HAVE A NICE DAY. AND REMEMBER ONLY GOD KNOWS ABOUT YOUR TOMORROW!!!!THE QUESTION IS ARE YOU assured YOU HAVE ONE????
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Re: That problem can be eliminated
Post #14I have never thought of myself as all agreeable. All I am asking you to do is to show that what you say is true. This is done by using evidence, logic and reason. That's all I ask of you and what you have agreed to do.Suzanne wrote:What you would like me to do is just be all agreeable to the way you believe and think and be just like you by DEBATING GODAND WHAT GOD HAS SAID AND DONE. I cannot CHANGE ANYTHING GOD has said or done and LIVE UP to what I believe is RIGHT AND GOOD TO DO.
Examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
First Epistle to the Church of the Thessalonians
The truth will make you free.
Gospel of John
First Epistle to the Church of the Thessalonians
The truth will make you free.
Gospel of John
Re: That problem can be eliminated
Post #15ARE YOU asking ME to prove that GOD exists TO YOU??? Sorry IF you do not know that He does then How can I prove He does to YOU or anyone else. YOU have not taken my word for anything as yet so I guess that means you want proof Of my honesty to you. well I can not be any more honest then I already have been. as for YOU believing IN MY BEING who I say I am . a BELIEVER IN JESUS CHRIST AS being the oNLY BEGOTTEN SION OF GOD THAT HAS suffered and DIED THAT YOU and I MIGHT HAVE LIFE AND HAVE LIFE ABUNDENTLY and BE REDEEMED BY HIS BLOOD/??? YES THIS I BELIEVE> IN OTHER WORDS > I BELIEVE IN THE WORD OF GOD AS IT HAS BEEN WRITTEN OF FOR THE WORD WAS GOD< AND THAT WORD IS MANIFESTED IN MY LIFE THIS DAY> NOW IF THIS TRUTH CANNOT be BELIEVED just because YOU CANNOT believe me then SO BE IT. THE GOSPEL is TRUE. THE FATHER GOD CREATOR IS TRUE HIS WRITTEN WORD WE HAVE IS TRUTH AND WE DO well to HEAR IT and READ IT and LIVE BY WHAT HE HAS said TO DO.. LOVE GOD< AND LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF. FEW DO either one REALLY.McCulloch wrote:I have never thought of myself as all agreeable. All I am asking you to do is to show that what you say is true. This is done by using evidence, logic and reason. That's all I ask of you and what you have agreed to do.Suzanne wrote:What you would like me to do is just be all agreeable to the way you believe and think and be just like you by DEBATING GODAND WHAT GOD HAS SAID AND DONE. I cannot CHANGE ANYTHING GOD has said or done and LIVE UP to what I believe is RIGHT AND GOOD TO DO.
IF ONE LOVES GOD REALLY LOVES GOD . then they KEEP THE FIRST OF THE TEN. and IF THEY LOVE GOD and LOVE THEMSELVES They will keep the last OF THE TEN. BUT I CAN TELL YOU THIS ALSO.
NONE CAN KEEP ALL THAT GOD SAYS TO DO BY LOVEING GOD< and LOVING THEIR NEIGHBOR IF THEY FIRST HAVE NO IDEA what GOD ALMIGHTY HAS ALREADY DONE SAID AND ACCOMPLISHED FOR THEM. and NONE REALLY CARE TO REALLY come to UNDERSTAND ALL HE HAS DONE FOR US. THEY HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA what GOD HAS DONE.
IF ALL DID THEN I WOULD NOT be in here testifying to WHAT I HAVE LEARNED and HAD REVEALED TO ME thriough HIS BAPTISM OF HIS HOLY SPIRIT . NOR would you be in here as another individual HAVING THIS conversation with me ASKING ME TO PROVE MY HONESTY to you.
EITHER you are DEAF DUMB AND BLIND OR you just refuse to take my word for what I have been saying IN HERE . BY of course not seeing what is being said because as all keep telling me THEY CANNOT READ LARGE PRINT WORDS and they just cannot understand what the WORDS SAY> FUNNY
I have no problem understanding what someone writes on a piece of paper and the WORDS are CLEAR and I UNDERSTAND the meaning of the words. and if I do not understand the meaning of a WORD then I look it up to see what the meaning is, according to what it is being used in relation to the other words being read.
I do not care how big the LETTERS ARE OR HOW small as LONG AS I CAN TELL what LETTER the word is made up of. and THE word is a word.
I recieved an email once awhile back and this is an EXAMLPE OF what I GOT...
nac oyu drea itish hetre hsa eneb a etst node nda lpeoep taht avje node het tsetgni hvea oufnd hatt namy opelpe nac dear heste camrleds wdsrs esialy. I esonlpryl fnduo it vrye nisrterentig cxreizse in owh osem pleopse dmins nac okwr nehw upt ot het stet
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Can you read this there has been a test done and people that have done the testing have found that many people can read these scrambled words easily. I personally found it very interesting exercise in how dome peoples minds can work when put to the test.
It was discovered that most people have no problem reading these scrambled words. because the MIND CAN SORT the letters if the words are familiar to the mind to begin with. It took me much longer to write the words above then it has for me to write this. BUT I can read the above just as fast as I have written this. JUST AS IT WAS when I RECIEVED something like this IN MY EMAIL . I wonder how many in here find a REAL problem read what has been written above and How many have LITTLE or NO PROBLEM because they do not look at it BUT the MIND IS SEEING what is written and DECIFERS the LETTERS without MUCH OF A PROBLEM at all.
But then again it depends on the person and how they percieve and what their mind can decern. I find it all really interesting when you consider that we all are souls and souls are spirit, and GOD IS A SPIRIT ALSO. and GOD DOES NOT LOOK AT APPEARANCES BUT AT THE HEART.. whether it be a PERSONS HEART. OR THE HEART OF THE MATTER. and the matter and subject here is MY WORD and MY HONESTY AS I believe BY FAITH HOW THE LORD WHOM IS A SPIRIT HAS REVEALED HIS TRUTH THAT HE HAS HAD WRITTEN FOR NOT JUST ME BUT FOR """"WHOMSOEVER"" """"" CAN belielive, CONFESS, and RECIEVE HIS TRUTH AND WHAT HE HAS said and done for us all... MEANING THE CROSS OF CALVARY> AND HIS TRUTH OF HIS WORD AND HE being ... ONE LORD, ONE FAITH, and ONE BAPTISM < and that GOD IS GOD AND THERE IS NO OTHER WORD TO LIVE BY BELIEVE IN HAVE FAITH IN AND LIVE BY THAT WORD AND BY THAT FAITH THAT GOD IS IN ALL AND IS ALL ........ and without HIM AND HIS SPIRIT AND HIS TRUTH AND HIS REALITY IN MY LIFE I WOULD NOT be HERE NOW SAYING ANYTHING TO YOU LIE OR OTHERWISE> ABOUT WHAT HE HAS REVEALED TO ME AND THAT IS HIS FAITHFULNESS TO DO JUST AS HE HAS SAID HE WOULD DO> SEND HIS COMFORTER AND HIS BAPTISM UPON ME WITH HIS EVIDENCE OF CHANGEING MY HEART AND REKNEWING MY MIND AND MAKING ME A NEW CREATURE IN HIM BY HIM AND THROUGH HIS SPIRIT THIS BEING THE MIRACLE OF GOD THAT NONE CAN EXPLAIN> BUT ALL THAT HAVE IT UNDERSTAND IT AND KNOW IT WHEN THEY ARE FACED WITH ANOTHER THAT IS HAVING THIS FULFILLED WITHIN THEIR LIVES. NOW!!!!!!! JUST BY THE ACTIONS OF YOU AND HOW YOU QUESTION ME AND MY HONESTY YOU PROVE YOURSELF AS TO WHERE YOUR HEART AND MIND IS> AND IT IS ALL ACCORDING TO APPEARANCE AND HAVING NOTHING AT ALL TO THE MATTER OF THE WORDS THAT ARE BEING SAID OR WRITTEN OR POSTED> ALL PEOPLE CAN SEE IS THAT THE LARGE LETTERS MEAN ANGER< AND NOT FOLLOWING A RULE THAT SOME MAN HAS MADE FOR WGHATEVER PURPOSE> ... Now... Speaking for just little old me.. a lnot so little woman of 65. BUT one whom knows of what I come speaking about and of.. I could care less about some mans rules that says I CANNOT USE CAPITAL letters when I type. when it is not me that is speaking what I am typing most of the time anyway BUT THAT SPIRIOT that I believe with all my heart and mind and soul is THAT Comforter, that Spirit of God that was promised to whomsoever can hear HIS TRUTH and HIS WORD when it is given to then heard and believed and then confessed BOLDLY BEFORE MEN!!!!!!!! WITH ONES MOUTH!!!!!!!!!!! NOW!!!!! is that is not plain enough for you I am very sorry for you because yopu hjave a long way to go. and I REALLY DO PRAY THAT YOU HAVE A LONG TIME LEFT TO believe, confess and recieve the ruth of HIM , HIS WORD, AND HIS BAPTISM. before HE COMES BACK AGAIN. FOR HE is RETURNING AGAIN. and when HE DOES HIS REWARD will be with HIM>
WHAT WILL BE YOUR REWARD?? do you have any idea what HE HAS said about WHEN HE comes again for the DEAD AND THE LIVING???? and do you believe in THE WORDS HE HAS HAD WRITTEN . CONCERNING HIS FINAL JUDGMENT.
DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE THAT WE WHO COME with HIS WORD HIS MESSAGE TO ANY AND ALL THAT WILL LISTEN AND BELIEVE US DO THIS JUST FOR THE FUN OF IT???? DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE THAT PEOPLE HAVE GIVEN THEIR LIVES FOR HIS TRUTH, HIS NAME< HIS REALITY , IN THEIR LIVES> JUST FOR THE FUN OF IT???? DO YOU BELIEVE THAT IT IS FUIN TO HAVE PEOPLE MOCK YOU<< MAKE FUN OF YOU< AND CHIDE YOU < AND NOT CARE ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO GIVE THEM WHICH IS HIOS TRUTH LOVE AND REALITY TO THEM ... and are willing to spend hopurs upon hours doing this whether is is over a pulpit, on the streets, or in here on this internet??? and then in the end have to just turn as JESUS DID with the RICH T YOUNG RULER AND let them TURN FROM HIM AND WALK AWAY>???????? as they so often do to us SIMPLY BY NOT WANTING TO even hear what the SPIRIT HAS TO SAY TO THEM???????????????
ANGRY??????? YES GOD IS A JEALOUS AND ANGRY GOD AT TIMES> BECAUSE OF THE CHILDREN AND THEIR SQUABBLING< FIGHTING< AND DOUBTING OF HIS REALITY AND TRUTH WHEN IT IS REVEALED TO THEM IN SUCH A WAY AS with BOLDNESS< CHASTISEMENTS AND REALITY THAT MOST DO NOT CARE TO D FACE> HEAR< OR SEE> DEAF BLIND AND DUMB!!!!!!!!!!! STICKING TEIR HEADS IN THE SAND OF THE DESERT SO THEY KNOW NOTHING SEE NOTHING AND DO NOT HAVE TO HEAR ANYTHING OF THEIR REALITY AND TRUTH ...
happens all the time.. all the time.. all the time.. NOTHING LIKE BEING BLIND, DEAF, AND IGNORANT.
My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children. Thus sayeth the LORD ...
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Re: That problem can be eliminated
Post #16Yes. If you assert that you know that God exists, then you are obliged to provide evidence. How about using whatever evidence that convinced you?Suzanne wrote:ARE YOU asking ME to prove that GOD exists TO YOU???
Examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
First Epistle to the Church of the Thessalonians
The truth will make you free.
Gospel of John
First Epistle to the Church of the Thessalonians
The truth will make you free.
Gospel of John
Re: That problem can be eliminated
Post #17You can prove it to me as well if you like. I know of no evidence that supports the existence of any god, let alone the god of christianity.Suzanne wrote: ARE YOU asking ME to prove that GOD exists TO YOU???
Do you believe Zeus is a god? If not, why not? And what of all the 1000's of other gods that have existed over human history - do you beleive they are gods?
"Whatever you are totally ignorant of, assert to be the explanation of everything else"
William James quoting Dr. Hodgson
"When I see I am nothing, that is wisdom. When I see I am everything, that is love. My life is a movement between these two."
Nisargadatta Maharaj
William James quoting Dr. Hodgson
"When I see I am nothing, that is wisdom. When I see I am everything, that is love. My life is a movement between these two."
Nisargadatta Maharaj
Post #18
Boldness? PERHAPS you're THINKING of "His CREATION"? Sure it MIGHT LOOK like a bold revelation to PEOPLE uneducated in the POTENTIALITIES of SELF-organized SYSTEMS; but it turns out NOW that the SOURCE of ALL the WONDER IN THE WORLD is VERY AMBIGUOUS !!!Suzanne wrote:ANGRY??????? YES GOD IS A JEALOUS AND ANGRY GOD AT TIMES> BECAUSE OF THE CHILDREN AND THEIR SQUABBLING< FIGHTING< AND DOUBTING OF HIS REALITY AND TRUTH WHEN IT IS REVEALED TO THEM IN SUCH A WAY AS with BOLDNESS
Oh, goodness me it's hard keeping up that sort of shouting! I always get all out of breath just watching the reverend Ian Paisley on Television. Suzanne, would you really like to see everyone here shouting out their views from the pulpit as you do? We've all got our opinions. Why not show a little more consideration for the community you've entered into? Just picture the place if everyone posted as you do. We can all do it, but we don't out of common civility.
Re: That problem can be eliminated
Post #19BELOW: is a email I just finished. IT may serve a purpose here also.. It was in response to a daily Devotional that had the starred line to which I respondedMcCulloch wrote:Yes. If you assert that you know that God exists, then you are obliged to provide evidence. How about using whatever evidence that convinced you?Suzanne wrote:ARE YOU asking ME to prove that GOD exists TO YOU???
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****Thus, without your being branded upon the brow, all will know
to whom you belong.*****
AMEN God Puts His own brand on our forehead. I think of that branding as a
REKNEWED MIND, Having a different attitude about all things. THAT need to be
changed in our thinking and therefore we also change the way we speak and talk
about things. I know I have had a change in my thinking about some things. It
used to be that watching some things on TV or a MOVIE userd to not upset or
bother me that much NOT THAT I EVER LIKED TO SEE some of the stuff producers
have put out in the past. IT is EVEN WORSE NOW!! I CANNOT AND WILL NOT WATCH
CERTAIN THINGS , PROGRAMS, MOVIES, ANYMORE NO MATTER WHAT . BECAUSE I JUST
CANNOT TOLERATE THEM.
I just saw an advertisement on one station I was watching LAW and Order
last night and APPARENTLY they have a NEW SHOW SERIES COMING ON that HAS a MAN
having THREE WIVES. and several KYDS, BY the seperate wives I suppose. BIGAMY!!!
YET IN SOME AREAS such as UTAH!! THERE ARE THESE EVEN THOUGH IT IS AGAINST THE
LAW OF THE LAND and AS Far as I KNOW AGAINST GOD,.I AM GOING TO WRITE the
NETWORK?? AND ADVERTISERS and let them know I AM AGAINST THEM PROMOTING SUCH
ILLEGAL ACTS .. THEY TAKE MEN TO COURT FOR SUCH AS THIS IF THEY CAN FIND THEM
OUT!!!! THERE IS A MAN FROM UTAH RIGHT NOW that they are trying to prosecute NOT
CERTAIN they will accomplish that THEY HAE done this before and I never have
found out what the verdict was. SICK MINDS, UNGODLY HEARTS, AND TO MUCH
TOLERANCE, IS RUNNING RAMPANT. IT is HIGH TIME THE GODLY RIGHTEOUSNESS IN CHRIST
JESUS AND OUR CREATOR STAND UP AND COMPLAIN TO THESE PRODUCERS ADVERTISERS AND
STATIONS, LETTING THEM KNOW THEY WILL NOT BE WATCHED BY WE WHO ABHORE SUCH AS
THIS. THEY HAVE GRASSROOTS NOTICES FOR POLITICAL THINGS WE SHOULD GET A GRASS
ROOTS THING STARTED AGAINST JUNK IMMORAL TELEVISION PROGRAMING.IF THEY CANNOT
GET RATEING, ADVERTISING, AND MONEY THEN THEY WOULD SOON FOLD.LET THEN GO TO THE
CABLE BUT THEN WHEN CABLE STATRS LOOSING MONEY THEY TOO WILL HAVE TO CHANGE
THEIR WAY OF DOING THINGS. ONE BIG PROBLEM WITH THIS.
EVERYBODY HAS A RIGHT TO HAVE WHAT THEY ENJOY WATCHING ON TELEVISION JUST AS
MUCH AS WE WHO WANT GOOD STUFF,, THE ONE WANTING TRASH AND IMMORALITY HAVE
RIGHTS TO AS FAR AS INDIVIDUAL CHOICES. THAT IS WHAT IS GREAT ABOUT AMERICA FREE
TO CHOOSE!!!!!!!!!!!AS LONG AS ANYTHING HAS TWO CHOICES THEN EVERY INDIVIDUAL
HAS A RIGHT TO CHOOSE WHAT THEY WILL WATCH. CANNOT TAKE ALL THE IMMORAL STUFF
OUT OF SOCIETY BECAUSE IT EXIST. YOU CANNOT GET RID OF POVERTY JUST BECAUSE WE
DO NOT LIKE SEEING PEOPLE POOR AND DOING WITHOUT "YOU WILL HAVE THE POOR WITH
YOU ALWAYS."
POOR SPIRITUALLY, and POOR MONETARILY.. THIS LIFE WILL ALWAYS HAVE BOTH.
INDIVIDUAL CHOICES.. IF CHILDREN ARE RAISED RIGHTEOUSLY ACCORDING TO WHAT IS
RIGHT AND GOOD to DO. THEN MUCH COULD BE CHANGED.
I TRULY HAVE COME TO THE PLACE WHERE I KNOW THAT WITHOUT GOD AND HIS WAYS OF
DOING NOTHING WILL NEVER CHANGE. YET GOD HAS SEASONS OF THIS LIFE FOR ALL OF US.
AS FOR GODS KINGDOM!!!!! HIS KINGDOM IS FOREVER AND NONE CAN CHANGE THAT TRUTH.
IT just is not UNDERSTOOD AND NOT SOUGHT. BY MANY.
YET I CANNOT HELP BUT REMEMBER WHAT GOD HAS HAD WRITTEN ..
Rom 14:4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he
standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him
stand.
I HAVE GREAT HOPE for this world and this earth as a real and present place that
GOD ALMIGHTY HAS CREATED AND MADE!!!!! I ALSO DO ABSOLUTELY BELIEVE IN A HELL
FOR ALL THOSE THAT REFUSE GOD AND HIS SON.. I ALSO BELIEVE IN A HEAVEN TO LOOK
TOWARD AFTER MY LIFE IS OVER HERE ..
I DOING SOME REASEARCHING ON THE PLANETS THAT ARE IN THE UNIVERSE.. I
DISCOVERED SOMETHING I WAS NOT AWARE OF.
EVERY PLANET HAS A NAME.. and THOSE NAMES MEANING something. FOR INSTANCE,,
MARS, is a PLANET MEANING WAR, RED AND DRY and HOT. NEPTUNE is THE PLANET THAT
MEANS SEA. JUPITER, is mentioned in the SCRIPTURES, and so is ORION THE STAR
CLUSTER, so are the PLIADES MENTIONED IN THE SCRIPTURES.. WHILE INVESTIGATING
ALL THIS IN MY STUDIES. OF THE WRITTEN WORD OF GOD ALMIGHTY WHOM I KNOW EXISTS!
AND IS OUR CREATOR. along with ALL THAT IS NOW OR EVER HAS BEEN!!! GOD CREATED
THE EARTH!!!! === TERRESTIAL,, EARTHLY. HE CREATED THE HEAVENS=== IT HAS EVEN
BEEN WRITTEN THAT A MAN, WAS RAISED UP INTO THE THIRD!!!!!! HEAVEN!!! I have
said to many did you know there are THREE HEAVENS??? you ought to see and hear
the remarks I get. YET THERE ARE THREE HEAVENS. THE FIRST, is where the BIRDS
FLY, OUR ATMOSPHERE.. the SECOND is where the CELESTIAL BODIES ARE, OUR STARS
MOON SUN AND PLANETS IN OUR SOLAR AREA. THEN BELIEVE IT OR NOT THE HIGHEST
HEAVEN THERE IS A PLANET CALLED URANUS==== MEANING THAT IS TRUE "HEAVEN" IN the
beginning GOD! CREATED the heaven's and the earth. so we have an EARTH FOR WE
the EARTHLY TERRESTIAL BEINGS, and also a HEAVEN where the THRONE OF GOD IS. and
all that is all around this earth the CELESTIAL BODIES. I HAPPEN TO believe that
GOD HAS HAD IT WRITTEN AND SAID THIS TRUTH!! "HOW CAN YOU BUILD ME A HOUSE, when
the EARTH is MY footstool and HEAVEN is MY throne." PEOPLE KEEP WANTING PROOF,,
OF GOD!!! BUT THEY ARE NOT willing to SEK HIS REALITY AND HIS TRUTH .. OF WHO
GOD ALMIGHTY IS, who HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD IS, and KNOW HIS REALITY AND
TRUTH WITHIN THEIR LIVES HERE AND NOW!!!!! and WHAT HE HAS PROMISED TO HAVE FOR
US AFTER THIS PHYSICAL LIFE IS DONE. FOR ALL PHYSICAL LIFE WILL PERISH
INDIVIDUAL LIVES END EVERY SINGLE DAY BY THE MILLIONS, BILLIONS BY DESEASE, AND
JUST PLAIN AGEING. OH AND HELL!!! WELL YES I BELIEVE THERE IS A REAL PRESENCE OF
A TRUE HELL FOR ALL THOSE THAT REFUSE TO BELIEVE AND THERE ARE THOSE THAT JUST
REFUSE GOD THE FATHER, THE SON, JESUS THE RISEN CHRIST, AND HIS WORD, THE HOLY
SPIRIT!!!!
THESE SHALL ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURE HAVE THEIR PART IN THE FURNACE PREPARED FOR
THE DEVIL AND HIS OWN CHILDREN..
THE CENTER OF THIS PLANET EARTH IS A PIT A CENTER OF MOLTON LAVA..
IN the SCRIPTURE in the OLD TESTAMENT, GOD OPENED UP THE EARTH AND LET ALL THOSE
THAT CHOSE TO NOT FOLLOW. FALL INTO THE ABYSS. HAVE YOU EVER ACTUALLY CONSIDERED
THE JUDGMENTS OF GOD ALMIGHTY.. I AM TALKING ABOUT JUDGMENTS THAT MANKIND HAVE
ABSOLUTELY NO CONTROL OVER??? NONE CAN EVER TELL ME THAT GOD IS NOT HAVING
CONTROL IN THIS WORLD AND ON THE EARTH AND IN THIS UNIVERSE WE LIVE IN, ON, AND
HAVE ALL AROUND THIS PLANET EARTH. NONE CAN EVER TELL ME THERE IS NO GOD< NO
RISEN CHRIST< AND NO KINGDOM OF GOD, HOPE??????? ANYONE THAT CANNOT HAVE THIS
HOPE. WILL NEVER EVER EVER HAVE ANY PEACE EITHER HERE OR IN DEATH!!! BECAUSE
PEOPLE THAT HAVE NO WISDOM AND KNOWLEDGE OF GOD AND HIS REALITY AND TRUTH IN
THEIR LIVES WILL HAVE FEARS OF THINGS THEY HAVE NO NEED TO FEAR.
Mat 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body,(MEN CAN KILL THIS BODY of
FLESH. and do..) but are not able to kill the soul: (NO MEN CANNOT KILL OUR SOUL
WE CHOOSE EITHER TO DENY GOD or RECIEVE HIM. HIS SON, and HIS WORD, and HIS
TRUTH, and HIS BAPTISM,) but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul
and body in hell. ((( THIS GOD IS FAITHFUL TO DO!!!! JUST AS HE IS FAITHFUL IN
ALL HE HAS SAID and WILL DO. FULLY AND COMPLETELY.. I NOR YOU CAN SAY WHO will
GO TO HELL and who will GO TO HEAVEN, THIS is GOD'S JUDGMENT not ours to make
NOR TELL ANYONE. )))
FOR YEARS UPON YEARS I HAVE HEARD ministers, pastors, reverands, telling people
how sinful we are. and yes we all are sinners. absolutely.. BUT NONE CAN TELL
ANY ONE THEY ARE GOING TO HELL OR THEY ARE GOING TO HEAVEN. TELL GODS TRUTH
ABOUT HELL, ABOUT HEAVEN, ABOUT FAITH, DENIAL, and REPENTANCE, BELIEVING BY
FAITH, CONFESSING WITH ONES MOUTH HIS SON THE ONE WE CALL JESUS the CHRIST, AND
YES THE GRACE OF GOD. and yes WE ALL NEED TO UNDERSTAND AND BE TOLD THE TRUTH OF
THE POWER, MAJESTY, and LOVE OF OUR LORD AND BE TAUGHT TO HAVE A RESPECT FOR
THE HEAVENLY FATHER CREATOR.. and YES AS HIS CHILDREN!!!! BY FAITH OR BY THE LAW
OF MOSES WE BEST UNDERSTAND HIS AWSOME POWER OVER ALL THAT WAS, IS, AND WILL
EVEN yet BE DONE. IF WE SIT BACK and do not DO THE FIRST WORK!!!! THEN ONE WILL
never COME TO the KNOWLEDGE and REALITY and TRUTH OF WHOM THEY ARE. IT HAS BEEN
WRITTEN "SEEK YE FIRST THE KINGDOM OF GOD,"
THERE IS ALSO THIS, "WORK OUT YOUR OWN SALVATION." Phl 2:12 Wherefore, my
beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more
in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
I could GO on and on why I BELIEVE IN MY LORD GOD ALMIGHTY, and why MY FAITH IN
WHAT HE HAS SAID and done NOT JUST FOR ME AND FOR YOU. BUT FOR ALL MANKIND AND
ALL HE HAS CREATED. and MADE.
GOD DID NOT CREATE ALL THAT WAS, IS, AND TO COME, JUST TO DESTROY IT
ALL...FOREVER MORE .. NO WAY.. ANYONE THAT CANNOT BELIEVE IN THE RESURRECTED
CHRIST AND HAVE FAITH IN THIS TRUTH.IS JUST SIMPLY BELIEVING LIES THAT MEN HAVE
TOLD THEM. YET THERE IS NONE THAT BEFORE THEY DIE CAN SAY THEY NEVER HAVE HEARD
THE WORD, GIVEN TO THEM. ONLY THE VERY VERY VERY YOUNG. HAVE NOT HEARD. BUT
EVEN THE ONE IN THE WOMB THESE KNOW!!!!!!! AND HAVE NOT YET BEEN TOLD. BECAUSE
SCRIPTURE REVEALS TO US . THAT IT IS GOD!!! that KNOWS THAT WHICH IS IN THE WOMB
OF A WOMAN!!!
FREEDOM IS IN TRUTH!!!!!! AND WE CAN HAVE TRUTH IF WE REALLY WANT "THE
TRUTH!!!!!" TO MANY DO NOT WANT "THE TRUTH" BECAUSE ONCE THEY KNOW WHAT GOD'S
TRUTH IS. THEY WILL DEFINITLY BE CHANGED, and WILL HAVE TO GIVE UP THAT which
they NOW BELIEVE IS what they NEED, WANT, and GET, when the TRUTH IS that MANY
ARE NOT REALLY FREE, NOR ARE THEY HAPPY , BECAUSE OF THE VERY THINGS THEY ARE
doing that they do not NEED and should not have and be doing in the first place.
NOT UNDERSTANDING THAT those very tHINGS ARE CAUSING DESEASES and STRESS and
BEING HELD CAPTIVE BY ALL THIS STUFF . that THEY NOW BELIEVE AND THINK IS GOOD
TO BE DOING when they already have been told and know IT IS SINFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YET HERE is the BOTTOM LINE TO ALL THIS... I am 65 years old. and I am no way
ready to just GIVE UP and leave this earth and go on to be with MY LORD THY GOD.
BUT I KNOW THIS MUCH. that if HE COMES FOR ME BEFORE THE SUN DAWNS TOMORROW. I
will be with HIM.. NOT IN THE ABYSS OF HELL within the center of this earth. MY
FLESHLY TERRESTIAL WILL BE. BUT NOT ME!!!!!! FOR MY REDEEMED, WASHED IN THE VERY
BLOOD OF HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON THAT HAS BEEN SHED FOR ME AS WELL AS FOR YOU and
all THAT HAS BEEN BEFORE ME OR BEFORE YOU and PRAISES BE TO GOD AND ALL GLORY
ARE HIS > FOR MY CHILDREN AND THEIR CHILDREN AND THEIR CHILDRENS CHILDREN.. MY
SON AND MY DAUGHTER SHALL TAKE UP WHERE I LEAVE OFF AND MY GRANDCHILDREN WILL
REMEMBER ME AS GRANDMA just as I remembered MY GRANDMA WE ALL HAVE A
HERITAGE!!!! and MY HERITAGE HAS BEEN BEGUN BY GOD!!!!!! I HAVE SUCH GREAT HOPE
FOR ALL THAT IS coming and is being changed before my very eyes. IN NOT JUST ME
PERSIONALLY BUT I SEE the vision ahead for many that will in the coming years
CALL ON THEIR GOD AND COME TO UNDERSTAND AND KNOW THE LORD just as many have and
are now doing.
OUR LORD IS A FOREVER EVER EVER CREATOR GOD ALMIGHTY. THERE IS NO OTHER BESIDES
HIM, and HIS KINGDOM HAS NO ENDING FOR THERE IS NO ENDING TO HIM AND HIS TRUTH
AND HIS WORD!!!!!!!!
WHAT A HOPE WE HAVE AND WHAT FREEDOM IT BRINGS TO ALL THAT BELIEVE CONFESS AND
RECIEVE THIS UNDENIALBLE TRUTH!!!!!!!
I PLAN ON ENJOYING EVERY DAY THE LORD GIVES ME FROM NOW ON.. THIS YEAR AND THE
YEARS TO COME I HAVE GREAT VISION AND HOPE IN.. I PRAY YOURS IS AS VISIONARY
AND HAVE THAT SAME HOPE I HAVE AND MANY HAVE FOUND, YET I DID NOT DO ANYTHING
BUT HAVE FAITH IN A GOD I KNEW WAS, IS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE. IT IS NOTHING MORE
THEN THE MIRACULOUS AWSOMENESS AND WONDER OF GOD
Re: That problem can be eliminated
Post #20bernee51 wrote:You can prove it to me as well if you like. I know of no evidence that supports the existence of any god, let alone the god of christianity.Suzanne wrote: ARE YOU asking ME to prove that GOD exists TO YOU???
Do you believe Zeus is a god? If not, why not? And what of all the 1000's of other gods that have existed over human history - do you beleive they are gods?
Please read my response to McCollock Thank you and GOD BLESS YOU..