Why is Holy Huddle sub-forum so inactive?

[Zzyzx]

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With only three posts this year (six weeks) that sub-forum could be considered "dead" – yet many Christians bemoan having to tolerate opposition views in C&A sub-forum. Having a place set aside for believers to commune with one another in the absence of opposition views should be appealing to those who resent their views being challenged or criticized.

The A Room sub-forum is similarly inactive but few Non-Theists seem to complain about Theists posting opposition views.

Why?

[WinePusher]

Secondly, exactly how many Christians have bemoaned the fact that there is a great deal of opposition to their views. You, Zzyxz, say "many". How many is "many"?

Gee, I haven't kept count. Is that information important to whatever argument you intend to present?

Gee, you haven't kept count? Then why'd you say 'many Christians bemoan having to tolerate opposing views.' So, you haven't kept count yet you claim that many Christians bemoan having to tolerate opposing views. Overcomer asked you to support your claim. You can either provide evidence and links to these many Christians who bemoan having to tolerate opposing views, or you can retract your claim since you already admitted to not having kept count, or you can dodge the issue. I sincerely hope you will choose one of the first two options.

[Tired of the Nonsense]

I'm perfectly happy to argue with D.I. But then he's only a semi-quasi-hard-to-pin-down
hippie sort of non-theist.

[Tired of the Nonsense]

Secondly, exactly how many Christians have bemoaned the fact that there is a great deal of opposition to their views. You, Zzyxz, say "many". How many is "many"?

Gee, I haven't kept count. Is that information important to whatever argument you intend to present?

Gee, you haven't kept count? Then why'd you say 'many Christians bemoan having to tolerate opposing views.' So, you haven't kept count yet you claim that many Christians bemoan having to tolerate opposing views. Overcomer asked you to support your claim. You can either provide evidence and links to these many Christians who bemoan having to tolerate opposing views, or you can retract your claim since you already admitted to not having kept count, or you can dodge the issue. I sincerely hope you will choose one of the first two options.

The real problem is, there's not really that many Christian's populating this forum at any given time for the H.H. Room to get all that much use. You, WP, are one of only a handful of professing Christians who has maintained a longstanding presence on this forum. We non believers seem to not only stay but to proliferate like fleas. Believers on the other hand all to often simply FLEE. And do so in horror early on. If this forum serves as an ongoing empirical experiment, that obvious fact must serve as an indicator of SOMETHING VALID. How would YOU interpret it except to observe that Christian beliefs are the one's consistently being decimated by the objections of non believers?

[Zzyzx]

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Secondly, exactly how many Christians have bemoaned the fact that there is a great deal of opposition to their views. You, Zzyxz, say "many". How many is "many"?

Gee, I haven't kept count. Is that information important to whatever argument you intend to present?

Gee, you haven't kept count? Then why'd you say 'many Christians bemoan having to tolerate opposing views.' So, you haven't kept count yet you claim that many Christians bemoan having to tolerate opposing views. Overcomer asked you to support your claim. You can either provide evidence and links to these many Christians who bemoan having to tolerate opposing views, or you can retract your claim since you already admitted to not having kept count, or you can dodge the issue. I sincerely hope you will choose one of the first two options.

"Many" is defined as: "a large but indefinite number". Bold added.

"Indefinite" is defined as: "Not definite, especially: a. Unclear; vague. b. Lacking precise limits"

So you are asking for a precise number (an actual count) of an indefinite number. Perhaps that makes sense in your mind.

I ask again, Is that information important to whatever argument you intend to present?

Do you have anything to contribute that relates to the OP ("Why is Holy Huddle sub-forum so inactive?")


Notice that when precise numbers WERE important to discussion, I did provide those for active topics in Holy Huddle and the A Room.

Notice also that I find no need to pick nits -- but debate substantive issues with those who are willing and able.

[help3434]

[Replying to post 14 by Zzyzx]

You may not have a definite number, but can you verify the large part. That is part of the definition, after all.

[WinePusher]

"Many" is defined as: "a large but indefinite number". Bold added.

"Indefinite" is defined as: "Not definite, especially: a. Unclear; vague. b. Lacking precise limits"

So you are asking for a precise number (an actual count) of an indefinite number. Perhaps that makes sense in your mind.

I didn't ask for a precise number, please don't make stuff up. I asked for you to support your claim. You claim that a large number of Christians 'bemoan having to tolerate opposition views' so please provide evidence and links to support it.

I ask again, Is that information important to whatever argument you intend to present?

This is General Chat, not a debate subforum. I'm not trying to argue or debate this with you since that isn't allowed in this subforum. All I'm asking for you to do is support your claim or honorably retract it.

Do you have anything to contribute that relates to the OP ("Why is Holy Huddle sub-forum so inactive?")

Nope I don't really care why Holy Huddle is inactive, I have more important things to think about. I would like to either see you support or retract your claim. I believe I'm the third debater who has asked you to do so.

Notice also that I find no need to pick nits -- but debate substantive issues with those who are willing and able.

That's really cool, but I'm not sure what this has to do with your claim. Either support it or retract it.

[WinePusher]

The real problem is, there's not really that many Christian's populating this forum at any given time for the H.H. Room to get all that much use.

No, the real problem is when people make stereotypical, blanket statements about a group of people and fail to provide any evidence for it.

You, WP, are one of only a handful of professing Christians who has maintained a longstanding presence on this forum. We non believers seem to not only stay but to proliferate like fleas. Believers on the other hand all to often simply FLEE. And do so in horror early on. If this forum serves as an ongoing empirical experiment, that obvious fact must serve as an indicator of SOMETHING VALID. How would YOU interpret it except to observe that Christian beliefs are the one's consistently being decimated by the objections of non believers?

I don't interpret it as anything? I just see it as people coming and going as they please. I will admit that most Christians I know are not particularly interested in debating apologetics or philosophy and religion. Remember, if you're going to register on a site like this you first have to have an appetite for debate and you have to be interested in the subject matter. Apologetics is still a relatively obscure and unknown topic among the general Christian population and most Christians are probably not interested in debating their beliefs.

However, since atheism (especially the new atheism) was conceived as a reactionary movement against religion, atheists (as a group) do have a strong appetite for debate and have thought through these issues in great detail. As a result, they're more likely to go searching for websites like this one.

[Beans]

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With only three posts this year (six weeks) that sub-forum could be considered "dead" – yet many Christians bemoan having to tolerate opposition views in C&A sub-forum. Having a place set aside for believers to commune with one another in the absence of opposition views should be appealing to those who resent their views being challenged or criticized.

The A Room sub-forum is similarly inactive but few Non-Theists seem to complain about Theists posting opposition views.

Why?

Could it be that it requires special permissions to post there?

I tried to post there and it took me to the sign-on screen (even though I was signed on) and presented the message that I was not allowed to post there as I needed special permission.

[Zzyzx]

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Could it be that it requires special permissions to post there?

I tried to post there and it took me to the sign-on screen (even though I was signed on) and presented the message that I was not allowed to post there as I needed special permission.

Yes, that is a restricted sub-forum in which only members of the Christian user-group may post.

"Only Christians can post in this subforum. If you are not a member of this group, you may join here" http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/groupcp.php

[WinePusher]

You claim that a large number of Christians 'bemoan having to tolerate opposition views' so please provide evidence and links to support it.

Zzyzx, support your claim or retract it. It's been about a week so if you had any evidence present it now. If you have no evidence then retract the claim. If you need more time to gather evidence then say so.