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Free speech vs. safety

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A film was produced. Offending the Islam with the aim and provoking Islamists to acts of violence.
The consequence: Many dead bodies; Hate for America, violence of Muslims against Coptic Christians in Egypt.
What would be if the free speech had limits in the USA? If e.g. the makers of this "film" were sentenced to severe imprisonments? Or Islamic preachers of hate provided , if they are not American citizens. are expelled? The inner safety, the inner social peace are not more important, than the right of free speech? At least in this case?

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Divine Insight wrote: Apparently their religion instills precisely the opposite into its followers: Violence, hostility, anger, and hate.
Is that what their religion stands for?
At most monotheistic religions, perhaps this is correct. I dare to have doubts whether at all religions. Wanting a reason, no new religion to search perhaps for me. What by the way is Wicca?

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The Ex-Mormon wrote:
Divine Insight wrote: Apparently their religion instills precisely the opposite into its followers: Violence, hostility, anger, and hate.
Is that what their religion stands for?
At most monotheistic religions, perhaps this is correct. I dare to have doubts whether at all religions. Wanting a reason, no new religion to search perhaps for me. What by the way is Wicca?
Wicca is a highly controversial ill-defined term that is often hotly debated among people who use it to define their spiritual practices and paradigms.

It is most popularly known as being associated with "witchcraft" and the casting of "spells". However, if one exams the various views of authors who write about "Wicca" it will become apparent that this popular notion is way overblown and that the underlying spiritual principles of "Wicca" are far more focused on honoring a Goddess and God that are seen as symbolically representing the Feminine and Masculine aspects of life and nature.

Depending on the practitioner of "Wicca" this can range anywhere from viewing the God and Goddess as actual personified deities (not unlike Zeus and Leto from Greek mythology) or the God of Abraham from the biblical tales, to very abstract symbolic archetypes of "yin and yang" as viewed by Eastern Mystics.

So "Wicca", especially what has become popularly dubbed as "Solitary" Wicca covers a wide range of philosophical concepts of spirituality.

People who are opposed to "Wicca" (and to the idea of witchcraft in general), point to the wide diversity of the practices as being nothing more than man-made practices that are clearly being made-up by the practitioners themselves. And thus they conclude that the whole spiritual philosophy is basically meaningless.

Ironically they actually still retain a belief in "witchcraft" and believe it to be the work of a demonic fallen angel named Satan.

I personally have no problem with the abstract approach to spirituality, as this is very common in Eastern Mysticism as well, and appears to work very well in those philosophies.

So my own 'personal version" of "Wicca" is actually very closely aligned with the more abstract spiritual philosophies of the Eastern Mystics such a Taoism and Buddhism.

I think a lot of people have difficulty thinking this abstractly. Most people seem to need a concrete book that is claimed to be the infallible verbatim word of a concrete egotistical God who is separate from them, had created them, and who will judge them to decide whether to keep them as pets, or toss them into a fiery furnace.

Wicca, in all it's forms, does not embrace that picture at all. Although some of the more polytheistic views of Wicca may hold a belief that the "Gods" will punish those who choose to be naughty and naturally reward those who are nice.

Some "Wiccans" are borderline atheists, thinking far more in-line with a very secular view of Taoism. They see Wicca more as a way to honor and worship "Nature" and view themselves to be an intimate part of nature. They may have views of reincarnation along those lines as well.

In short, it's a spiritual paradigm that offers a wide variety of personal interpretations. ;)

But it's clearly not driven by an evil fallen angel named Satan. A core principle of "Wicca" is "Do as you will, but harm none".

So if any "Wiccans" are harming anyone, they are going directly against the very heart of the Wicca Rede. And that would include "casting spells" that could potentially harm someone else in any way.

Hope this helps. O:)

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Wicca looks alike an "alternative religion" with several divinities (most of them female). This would not be my world but everybody shall think what he regards as right.
I have made myself a little clever. And found out that primarily homosexual people Wicca find very attractive. Why? What do Wicca have what other religions do not have?

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