Born this way

Ethics, Morality, and Sin

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sn00zy
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Born this way

Post #1

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First of i want to say hello to everyone, this is my first post on this forum. Secondly i would like to say that i consider myself an Atheist, so you now know where i stand in my following question:

So, i was reading a post that someone made on another forum. He was really down and he wasn't sure what to do. He had told his family that he was an Atheist. Long story short, they told him to get out (he was living with them at the time). Now, this in my eyes is obviously over reacting. Mostly because i don't really care if a person is a Muslim, Buddhist, Christian or an Atheist. If i enjoy their company i will accept them into my home, especially if it was my own child. But as Christians, can you really blame people for their personal feelings? This is how he feels, no matter what he says or what people tell him. This is HIS belief. What really caught my attention was that this could all have been avoided (if i was thinking like a theist). If God is omnipotent and omniscient. Doesn't that mean that while he was "creating" this person, he knew that he would grow to become and Atheist and could not be convinced otherwise, he also knew that his family would "banish" him from his own home.

It's the same logic (if you can even call it that) behind homosexuality. God creates homosexuals. Why? In his eyes, homosexuals are sinful. Why would he create sinful beings, and then send them to hell for their sins? To top it off, he knew all along that they were gay, and that there was no changing it. I'm sorry if any of you find this offensive, but isn't that unnecessary and cruel.? Eternal punishment isn't really pleasant. He is creating this people to send them to hell. He knows that they wont change their ways, he has the power to change them, to make them straight.

Same thing with the creation story. "If i make Eve, i know that she will eat the forbidden fruit and i will have to kick them out and then punish thousands of humans, for thousands of years because of this event. And i will act all shocked and offended when she does it too". Creating humans for the pure fact of sending them to hell doesn't sound very Godlike does it? Now say what you want, just refrain from giving me answers like: "God works in mysterious ways" or "You cannot judge God with human logic". What else am i supposed to judge him by? I am a human, i am only capable of thinking like a human. And if it was plain and simply like that, God does this for shits and giggles. Then i frankly do not want to spend eternity with him. Knowing all the pain and suffering he has caused, just because. Please show me your thoughts, Atheist and Theist alike.
Thanks.

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Post #11

Post by Dantalion »

@gnik

''personally, I have more respect for someone that believes what they feel is true, rather then believe what they are told.''

So you don't recognise you are a christian because you were born in a christian country? If you were born in ancient greece you would believe in Zeus.
how is that for 'believing what you are told?'

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