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Many threads regarding dualism, theism, and philosophy in general, often run into this topic. Is it even hypothetically possible to build a computer that will be sapient -- i.e., an artificial being that will think, feel, and socialize as humans do ? Well, here's our chance: to resolve this debate once and for all ! Smoke 'em if you got 'em, people, this post is gonna be a long one.
I claim that creating Strong AI (which is another name for a sapient computer) is possible. We may not achieve this today, or tomorrow, but it's going to happen sooner rather than later.
First, let me go over some of the arguments in favor of my position.
Pro: The Turing Test
Alan Turing, the father of modern computing (well, one of them), proposed this test in ages long past, when computers as we know them today did not yet exist. So, let me re-cast his argument in modern terms.
Turing's argument is a thought experiment, involving a test. There are three participants in the test: subject A, subject B, and the examiner E. A and B are chatting on AIM, or posting on this forum, or text-messaging each other on the phone, or engaging in some other form of textual communication. E is watching their conversations, but he doesn't get to talk. E knows that one of the subjects -- either A or B -- is a bona-fide human being, and the other one is a computer, but he doesn't know which one is which. E's job is to determine which of the subjects is a computer, based on their chat logs. Of course, in a real scientific setting, we'd have a large population of test subjects and examiners, not just three beings, but you get the idea.
Turing's claim is that if E cannot reliably determine which being -- A or B -- is human, then they both are. Let me say this again: if E can't tell which of the subjects is a computer, then they're both human, with all rights and privileges and obligations that humanity entails.
This seems like a pretty wild claim at first, but consider: how do you know that I, Bugmaster, am human ? And how do I know that you're human, as well ? All I know about you is the content of your posts; you could be a robot, or a fish, it doesn't really matter. As long as you act human, people will treat you as such (unless, of course, they're jerks who treat everyone like garbage, but that's another story). You might say, "well, you know I'm human because today's computers aren't advanced enough to post intelligently on the forums", but doesn't prove much, since our technology is advancing rapidly all the time (and we're talking about the future, anyway).
So, if you're going to deny one of Turing's subjects his humanity, then you should be prepared to deny this humanity to everyone, which would be absurd. Therefore, a computer that acts human, should be treated as such.
Pro: The Reverse Turing Test
I don't actually know the proper name for this argument, but it's sort of the opposite of the first one, hence the name.
Let's say that tomorrow, as you're crossing the street to get your morning coffee, you get hit by a bus. Your wounds are not too severe, but your pinky is shattered. Not to worry, though -- an experimental procedure is available, and your pinky is replaced with a robotic equivalent. It looks, feels, and acts just like your pinkie, but it's actually made of advanced polymers.
Are you any less human than you were before the treatment ?
Let's say that, after getting your pinkie replaced, you get hit by a bus again, and lose your arm... which gets replaced by a robo-arm. Are you human now ? What if you get hit by a bus again, and your left eye gets replaced by a robotic camera -- are you less human now ? What if you get a brain tumor, and part of your brain gets replaced ? And what if your tumor is inoperable, and the doctors (the doctors of the future, of course) are forced to replace your entire brain, as well as the rest of your organs ? Are you human ? If so, then how are you different from an artificial being that was built out of the same robotic components that your entire body now consists of ?
Note that this isn't just idle speculation. People today already have pacemakers, glasses, prosthetic limbs, and yes, even chips implanted in their brains to prevent epileptic seizures (and soon, hopefully, Alzheimers). Should we treat these people as less human than their all-natural peers ? I personally don't think so.
Ok, I know that many of you are itching to point out the flaws in these arguments, so let me go over some common objections.
(to be continued below)
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Of course we both know that we were talking about outmoded behaviorism which you just refuse to change your mind about.Bugmaster wrote:Well, if you feel that the whole academic world recognizes consciousness/body dualism.
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Uh, no, that's just you. I don't think I subscribe to the radical form of behaviorism that you present, nor do I "just" refuse to change my mind. I think I have some pretty good reasons for not changing my mind. For example, the glaring lack of a consciousness detector that you still haven't built :-)harvey1 wrote:Of course we both know that we were talking about outmoded behaviorism which you just refuse to change your mind about.
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Here are your quotes:Bugmaster wrote:Uh, no, that's just you. I don't think I subscribe to the radical form of behaviorism that you present, nor do I "just" refuse to change my mind. I think I have some pretty good reasons for not changing my mind. For example, the glaring lack of a consciousness detector that you still haven't built
I think that a machine that could duplicate all of my motions and actions (in the non-trivial sense, we're not talking about videotapes here) would need to be executing the same algorithm that I am. How else is it going to replicate all my actions?
This is behaviorism!I claim that a machine that duplicates all of my motions and actions perfectly, would need to be executing the same algorithm as I am.