Are there any current events which prove the Bible?

[McCulloch]

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You would be surprised at how much my views are drawn on literally empirical means. The 5pm news is proving the Bible right every single day.

I have watched the 6pm news and the 10 pm news and read the morning newspaper. I have not seen anything which by any stretch of my imagination would constitute a proof of anything in the Bible. Do Canadian news sources edit out these biblical proofs? Am I missing some subtlety?

Question for debate: Are there any current events which prove the Bible?

[Excel]

Sodomy is a civil right and teaching that sodomy is unnatural and deviant behavior is a violation of hate crimes legislation.

What exactly is unnatural about any type of sodomy? Does sodomy require supernatural intervention? Dose it not occur in nature?

There will come a day when sound doctrine will not be tolerated and they will gather to themselves teachers that will tell them whatever they want to hear."

That's awful general. It could be applied to almost anything.

Jesus is still hated after all these years. And, like He predicted, so are His followers.

I don't hate Christians. Actually I'm fine with most of them. Its just the fundamentalist minority that bothers me.

Homosexuals dwell behind Muslims and Atheists.

Whats whit this anti-islam spree you've been having? Seems a tad intolerant. Wouldn't that make you a hypocrite?

Like I always say, judge the actions. You will neveer see me denying facts and truth. This is why I had to leave atheism. Too much emotionalism.

You deny that homosexuality is unnatural. Let's see some proof of divine intervention.

Evolution is a religion now that proclaims relativism as a dogma.

What makes evolution a religion?

Homosexuals of today not only refuse to repent, but attack anyone claiming they do anything wrong. Without repentance there is no salvation.

They would have to believe that they are doing something wrong to repent. If I came to your house and started to protest your lifestyle would you be very happy? Not that you provided evidence of any homosexual attacks on Christians.

[AlAyeti]

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Sodomy is a civil right and teaching that sodomy is unnatural and deviant behavior is a violation of hate crimes legislation.

What exactly is unnatural about any type of sodomy? Does sodomy require supernatural intervention? Dose it not occur in nature?

I can only answer this question scientifically. Animals seem to know what their rectums are for. It is instinct. Also their throats. They seem to understand what humans cannot. I thought evolution worked the other way? Isn't that the story in the myth?

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There will come a day when sound doctrine will not be tolerated and they will gather to themselves teachers that will tell them whatever they want to hear."

That's awful general. It could be applied to almost anything.

Same-sex "marriage" sanctioned in places calling themselves Christian Churches puts a whole different and much more accurate twist on the New testament.

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Jesus is still hated after all these years. And, like He predicted, so are His followers.

I don't hate Christians. Actually I'm fine with most of them. Its just the fundamentalist minority that bothers me.

I like Atheists too. As long as they believe that Jesus Christ is God and are Born-Again Bible-believing "atheists."

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Homosexuals dwell behind Muslims and Atheists.

Whats whit this anti-islam spree you've been having? Seems a tad intolerant. Wouldn't that make you a hypocrite?

I have an aversion to being beheaded. call it a weakness. Seems the intolerant ones read the Koran now doesn't it? You have a TV?

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Like I always say, judge the actions. You will neveer see me denying facts and truth. This is why I had to leave atheism. Too much emotionalism.

You deny that homosexuality is unnatural. Let's see some proof of divine intervention.

Believing that the human anatomy can be violated because of a person's unwillingness to see physiological facts, has got to come from somewhere other than a mind that sees facts. I have said (wrote) many times that homosexuals should found their own religion.

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Evolution is a religion now that proclaims relativism as a dogma.

What makes evolution a religion?

It is faith-based and usues circualr reasoning. A PhD doesn't discount the salespitch in an evolutionist's mouth.

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Homosexuals of today not only refuse to repent, but attack anyone claiming they do anything wrong. Without repentance there is no salvation.

They would have to believe that they are doing something wrong to repent.

BINGO! You win a goldfish.

If I came to your house and started to protest your lifestyle would you be very happy?

Why go to houses where parents can protect their children. Now the schools are fertile recruiting grounds. And now by Ninth Circuit Court, parents have no rights to the sexualization of their own children in schools. No myth about it.

Not that you provided evidence of any homosexual attacks on Christians.

Pastors are being arrested in Canada and convicted in Sweden. See the thread on Christianity as a hate crime. And hate crimes legislation is to silence Christianty without doubt.

[juliod]

But, I view them third on the list of the most dangerous and intolerant. Homosexuals dwell behind Muslims and Atheists.

And yet nearly all your posts have a sexual content, even if the subject of the thread is non-sexual (as is this one). Do you really see news coverage of lesbianism (if such coverage existed) as evidence of current events that confirm the bible?

How nice of you to let me believe the Bible the way it is written. I am amazed that you would see the accuracy of what Paul was describing in the homosexual behavior of today.

So you are agreeing, then, that god has specifically told you to stop bothering homosexuals?

DanZ

[AlAyeti]

You ever read the Bible, Juliod/Danz?

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But, I view them third on the list of the most dangerous and intolerant. Homosexuals dwell behind Muslims and Atheists.

And yet nearly all your posts have a sexual content, even if the subject of the thread is non-sexual (as is this one). Do you really see news coverage of lesbianism (if such coverage existed) as evidence of current events that confirm the bible?

So does virtaully every post that talks about "civil rights" even evolutionary topics get around to sexual deviant behavior in a short time frame. I just don't hide the obvious. neither does the Bible.

Even homosexuals have tried the darndest to white-was the sexuality in herent in abomination to inculde "idolatry and temple prostitution" without ever denying the sexuality component to either. "Get a grip" is good advice for all.

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How nice of you to let me believe the Bible the way it is written. I am amazed that you would see the accuracy of what Paul was describing in the homosexual behavior of today.

So you are agreeing, then, that god has specifically told you to stop bothering homosexuals?

It is to be rooted out of the Israelites and the New Testament church. An interesting topic that seemed to suffer no change in the OT to NT.

I have never claimed to push my "religion" onto homosexuals although they denad to do just that. How Sodomlike? I have the right as a free citizen of a democratic country to votr for the samity to STILL define "marriage and family" the way it CAN only be defined. If it is up for a vote, I will alwys vote for sanity over chaos.

Thank you for agreeing that homosexuality and Bible-based belief are incompatible.

I have the right to think this as well without being labeled by epithets too.

Let see a sort of prophecy in a wierd way. This from Elton John's soon to be bride err or, groom err, life partner . . guy, he is joining in whatever England has legaized over there.

"It is one of the defining issues of our times. And I applaud Britain for embracing the diversity of our society," he said.

A "defining issue" is 100 accurate.

Yse, Oh yes. And want it made clear that Biblically, and as far as God is concerned, I am on one side and one side only. By definition.

[juliod]

You ever read the Bible, Juliod/Danz?

Not when I can avoid it. It's too full of violence and sexual perversity for me.

So does virtaully every post that talks about "civil rights" even evolutionary topics get around to sexual deviant behavior in a short time frame. I just don't hide the obvious. neither does the Bible.

Only when someone (I won't suggest who) immediately goes on about "licentuousness" regarless of what the topic is.

It is to be rooted out of the Israelites and the New Testament church.

No it isn't. The passage that you quoted says that god decided to let the homosexuals continue in the activities that suited them. Is there a reason you want to "correct" god?

I have never claimed to push my "religion" onto homosexuals although they denad to do just that.

It's very clear to everyone that you wish to push your religion onto us all, atheists, homosexuals, and other theists. I know you don't see it this way, but you need to reminded of it. And your denial of this doesn't excuse it.

Thank you for agreeing that homosexuality and Bible-based belief are incompatible.

As is eating pork, wearing mixed fibers, and the other things. Did Jesus ever say anything about hypocrits?

And want it made clear that Biblically, and as far as God is concerned, I am on one side and one side only. By definition.

How certain are you that god agrees with you? If you find out that he does not, will you declare god a liberal and an atheist?

DanZ

[AlAyeti]

Hardly a challene.

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You ever read the Bible, Juliod/Danz?

Not when I can avoid it. It's too full of violence and sexual perversity for me.

Yet you move to allow it and celebrate it in your "real" world. But, you label anyone that doesn't want it as a hate crimes violater. Hmmmm. How did you get to your real views when you can understand the concepts in a myth?

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So does virtaully every post that talks about "civil rights" even evolutionary topics get around to sexual deviant behavior in a short time frame. I just don't hide the obvious. neither does the Bible.

Only when someone (I won't suggest who) immediately goes on about "licentuousness" regarless of what the topic is.

Many people do not like the light shined on them huh? I do not fear the truth or facts and state them constantly to support both. Boo! hasn't me made go away yet DanZ.

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It is to be rooted out of the Israelites and the New Testament church.

No it isn't. The passage that you quoted says that god decided to let the homosexuals continue in the activities that suited them. Is there a reason you want to "correct" god?

No of course not. I also want to accurately use labels, facts and truth. Yet, I do not want to stone "men lying with men as with a woman." Even though it is an abomination. I also agree with Paul's perfectly describing homosexuals of today that existed in the exact same way as in Rome. No surprise there huh? I just use the same logic to describe the behavior. And ask it to leave the church and head to Massachusetts or Canada. Or Europe.

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I have never claimed to push my "religion" onto homosexuals although they denad to do just that.

It's very clear to everyone that you wish to push your religion onto us all, atheists, homosexuals, and other theists. I know you don't see it this way, but you need to reminded of it. And your denial of this doesn't excuse it.

Please show me one post to prove that I am trying to convert views or individuals that are trying to legislate laws against Christianity, or demand that they shut up? I am claiming that you are wrong because you are, and I want proof or an apology that I am trying to change anyone. Again, Boo! causes me no cognitive pain.

Bobbleheadism is something and somewhere I cannot dwell in. Sorry, but not following the Collective, is inherent in those that except Christ as Saviour.

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Thank you for agreeing that homosexuality and Bible-based belief are incompatible.

As is eating pork, wearing mixed fibers, and the other things. Did Jesus ever say anything about hypocrits?

No. In fact He labeled them and demanded they repent. Try this at your local Gay/Lesbian political activist meeting, or at any Democrat fundraisor held in some inner-city Church.

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And want it made clear that Biblically, and as far as God is concerned, I am on one side and one side only. By definition.

How certain are you that god agrees with you? If you find out that he does not, will you declare god a liberal and an atheist?

I understand words in context. I understand words in there definitions. Prove that I don't, without redefining them for political reasons?

God does not have to agree with me, DanZ . . .

. . . I have to agree with God.

[juliod]

Please show me one post to prove that I am trying to convert views or individuals that are trying to legislate laws against Christianity, or demand that they shut up?

In every post of yours you do this. For example, in this post you wrote that homosexuals must leave their homes and churches and "head to Massachusetts or Canada. Or Europe."

You repeatedly make claims about people trying to "legislate laws against christianity" when no one is doing any such thing. Your cry-baby claims of victimhood do not give you moral authority to demand adherence to your religion. The fact that your religion is not enforced by law does not make your religion illegal.

It's time for you to get over the fact that there are people in the country (let alone the world) who have different views and practices.

DanZ

[AlAyeti]

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Please show me one post to prove that I am trying to convert views or individuals that are trying to legislate laws against Christianity, or demand that they shut up?

In every post of yours you do this. For example, in this post you wrote that homosexuals must leave their homes and churches and "head to Massachusetts or Canada. Or Europe."

That is a bad opinion? Massachusetts and Europe are free from all of those nasty hateful Christians just wanting their children not to hear and see porno marching down the street in Parades. I wish there were somewhere I could move to to be free from disgusting behavior and perversion seen as a civil rights march.

But Islam is even more intolerant to Christians than our liberal society here in good ol' diversity-promoting America. Of course, as long as I never speak I am free to believe what I want to. Practicing those beliefs though is somewhat impossible. Christians are a vocal lot. By the way hardly ever talking about their sex acts in a parade (or anywhere else).

You repeatedly make claims about people trying to "legislate laws against christianity" when no one is doing any such thing.

Canada and Sweden have used the hate crimes excuse to literally arrest Christians. The Bible-believer is watched carefully in schools but sexual deviance clubs are welcomed.

Your cry-baby claims of victimhood do not give you moral authority to demand adherence to your religion.

When have I demanded "adherance" I demand freedom.

The fact that your religion is not enforced by law does not make your religion illegal.

The fact that it is hate speech for teaching the bible the way it is written and the way it is practiced in those that follow those words has already been legally attacked.

It's time for you to get over the fact that there are people in the country (let alone the world) who have different views and practices.

I am niether a pastor or proselytizer and I make that clear from the lack of relativism in my presentations. I defend Christians and Christianty from those that will not tolerate our rights to believe and practice our faith wothout being ridiculed, denigrated and considered subjects to be labeled in hate crimes legislation.

It never ceases to fascinate me that sexual deviants gaining civil rights are seen as heroes, and Christians are seen as monsters to be silenced by legislative action. Prison may indeed be a better place to live soon.

So much or the myth of Satan.

[MagusYanam]

I defend Christians and Christianty from those that will not tolerate our rights to believe and practice our faith wothout being ridiculed, denigrated and considered subjects to be labeled in hate crimes legislation.

And yet you ridicule and denigrate Christians yourself (those who don't agree with you in every particular), and show a complete lack of tolerance for our rights to believe and practise our faith. Who defends these Christians from you, I wonder?

[Cathar1950]

Christians are a vocal lot. By the way hardly ever talking about their sex acts in a parade (or anywhere else).

You sure do spend a lot of time talking about others sex acts and your very graphic.

My obseesion is about the attack on decent Christian people by the homosexual agenda and its activist priests. But, I view them third on the list of the most dangerous and intolerant. Homosexuals dwell behind Muslims and Atheists.

I find it funny how you lump all these together. Are you saying behind those Muslims and Atheist are closet homosexuals? Massachusetts and Europe when did they become unchristian and places of sin?
You are proof that the myth of satan lives on.