witchcraft

[Telora]

Is there any middle ground between the actions that can be considered supernatural witchcraft and the faiths that directly forbid it, what exactly is forbidden and why?

[Gunnarr]

Whatever title you wish to prescribe ancestors who for whatever reason were liminal and feared people is up to you, but to deny there existence in history because of the charlatans that pack out the internet today is foolhardy.

There are to many references in most cultures if not all that there were people who for whatever skills they had were most certainly a functioning part of a community.

In Norse mythology they are called Seeress and our sources are riddled with, a counter point to that is christianitys damning of them as stated in exodus 22:18 'Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live'.

[Burninglight]

Is there any middle ground between the actions that can be considered supernatural witchcraft and the faiths that directly forbid it, what exactly is forbidden and why?

Witchcraft is the art of magic where matter and energy are manipulated.

When Moses turned the staff into a serpent, isn't that magic?

When Jesus turned the water into wine, isn't that magic?

When Christians pray to God for protection, isn't that requesting for the manipulation of matter and energy.

Witchcraft, magic, prayer and miracles sound like the same things to me.

Jesus turning water to wine and Moses' rod turning into a snake are not magic; they are miracles, because it involved God. Witchcraft is the manipulation of principalities and spiritual wickedness in high places that has nothing to do with God. For instance, Joseph Smith had a supernatural visitation that wasn't from God, that would be considered a demonic sign and wonder, but not a miracle. Magic can be just an illusion or demonic intervention. Iow, the spiritual realm is real.

IMO, it was a demon impersonating Gabriel the angel to Muhammad at the cave. Joseph Smith and Muahmmad received revelation in a similar fashion. The Bible makes it clear that anyone that denies that Jesus has come in the flesh and that he is the son of God, is a liar. Mormons believe a twisted version of who Jesus is (Satan's brother). Well yes, I can buy that. Their Jesus is a different Jesus just like the Jesus of Islam is NOT the same one in the Bible.

[Serpent Oracle]

Witchcraft and all forms of the occult are under the control of demons. Anyone who seeks to use them opens themselves up to being used in the most evil ways.

This 'argument' was used as the justification for the drowning partial dismemberment and torture of a child suspected of being a witch by her sadistic relatives recently in the UK, in a case highlighted a few months back.
The family where God fearing christians from Nigeria...

Its 'people' like you with your very unsophisticated mindsets that allow foster these kinds of beliefs, encouraging them to happen...as they do.

The only demons are in your head unfortunately...

I use Tarot to divine and to mediate upon and also I practice dowsing when rambling, I am an amateur horoscope caster in my spare time also.
I also practice some very spiritual hallucinogenic rituals in the hills, at Samhain, using what grows there, in nature, among the trees and sacred groves.

My religion is very old...older that Christianity...older than Judaism...and it will outlive them all.

[JohnPaul]

Is there any middle ground between the actions that can be considered supernatural witchcraft and the faiths that directly forbid it, what exactly is forbidden and why?

Witchcraft and all forms of the occult are under the control of demons. Anyone who seeks to use them opens themselves up to being used in the most evil ways.

So followers of God are warned not to take part in any occult or witchcraft. For our one Good. We give warning to others who may think that these entities have their good at heart or even more deluded ones who think they can have power and control over these entities. Of course taking part in the occult or witchcraft my obtain for a person some advantages in this life, because this world is ruled by satan and his followers. But Christians know this life and lucifers future is limited. What ever advantage they receive will only be for a portion of their physical lives. For followers of God we shall have the ultimate advantage in eternity, far superior to the scraps that are on offer to the servants of satan in this world.


All Praise The Ancient Of Days

My wife was a Wiccan Witch in her younger days, and we were married by a Wiccan priestess in Washington state where such witchcraft is a legally recognized religion.

So watch your words, Buddy-boy!!! WE ARE WATCHING YOU!!! We have covens even in Australia. If you don't believe it, look out at your backyard on the next moonlit night and see if you see any moving shadows. Those glowing eyes are probably not just dingos.

ABRACADABRA-BOO

[Burninglight]

Is there any middle ground between the actions that can be considered supernatural witchcraft and the faiths that directly forbid it, what exactly is forbidden and why?

Witchcraft and all forms of the occult are under the control of demons. Anyone who seeks to use them opens themselves up to being used in the most evil ways.

So followers of God are warned not to take part in any occult or witchcraft. For our one Good. We give warning to others who may think that these entities have their good at heart or even more deluded ones who think they can have power and control over these entities. Of course taking part in the occult or witchcraft my obtain for a person some advantages in this life, because this world is ruled by satan and his followers. But Christians know this life and lucifers future is limited. What ever advantage they receive will only be for a portion of their physical lives. For followers of God we shall have the ultimate advantage in eternity, far superior to the scraps that are on offer to the servants of satan in this world.


All Praise The Ancient Of Days

My wife was a Wiccan Witch in her younger days, and we were married by a Wiccan priestess in Washington state where such witchcraft is a legally recognized religion.

So watch your words, Buddy-boy!!! WE ARE WATCHING YOU!!! We have covens even in Australia. If you don't believe it, look out at your backyard on the next moonlit night and see if you see any moving shadows. Those glowing eyes are probably not just dingos.

ABRACADABRA-BOO

Yea, just because they are paranoid doesn't mean they are not out to really get them!

[McCulloch]

Jesus turning water to wine and Moses' rod turning into a snake are not magic; they are miracles, because it involved God. Witchcraft is the manipulation of principalities and spiritual wickedness in high places that has nothing to do with God. For instance, Joseph Smith had a supernatural visitation that wasn't from God, that would be considered a demonic sign and wonder, but not a miracle. Magic can be just an illusion or demonic intervention. Iow, the spiritual realm is real.

IMO, it was a demon impersonating Gabriel the angel to Muhammad at the cave. Joseph Smith and Muahmmad received revelation in a similar fashion. The Bible makes it clear that anyone that denies that Jesus has come in the flesh and that he is the son of God, is a liar. Mormons believe a twisted version of who Jesus is (Satan's brother). Well yes, I can buy that. Their Jesus is a different Jesus just like the Jesus of Islam is NOT the same one in the Bible.

In other words, when our religion does it, it is a miracle. When your religion does it, it is demonic. Yeah, right.

[Burninglight]

Jesus turning water to wine and Moses' rod turning into a snake are not magic; they are miracles, because it involved God. Witchcraft is the manipulation of principalities and spiritual wickedness in high places that has nothing to do with God. For instance, Joseph Smith had a supernatural visitation that wasn't from God, that would be considered a demonic sign and wonder, but not a miracle. Magic can be just an illusion or demonic intervention. Iow, the spiritual realm is real.

IMO, it was a demon impersonating Gabriel the angel to Muhammad at the cave. Joseph Smith and Muahmmad received revelation in a similar fashion. The Bible makes it clear that anyone that denies that Jesus has come in the flesh and that he is the son of God, is a liar. Mormons believe a twisted version of who Jesus is (Satan's brother). Well yes, I can buy that. Their Jesus is a different Jesus just like the Jesus of Islam is NOT the same one in the Bible.

In other words, when our religion does it, it is a miracle. When your religion does it, it is demonic. Yeah, right.

For every real thing there is a counterfeit. It doesn't just happen with money.

[Serpent Oracle]

Jesus turning water to wine and Moses' rod turning into a snake are not magic; they are miracles, because it involved God. Witchcraft is the manipulation of principalities and spiritual wickedness in high places that has nothing to do with God. For instance, Joseph Smith had a supernatural visitation that wasn't from God, that would be considered a demonic sign and wonder, but not a miracle. Magic can be just an illusion or demonic intervention. Iow, the spiritual realm is real.

IMO, it was a demon impersonating Gabriel the angel to Muhammad at the cave. Joseph Smith and Muahmmad received revelation in a similar fashion. The Bible makes it clear that anyone that denies that Jesus has come in the flesh and that he is the son of God, is a liar. Mormons believe a twisted version of who Jesus is (Satan's brother). Well yes, I can buy that. Their Jesus is a different Jesus just like the Jesus of Islam is NOT the same one in the Bible.

In other words, when our religion does it, it is a miracle. When your religion does it, it is demonic. Yeah, right.

For every real thing there is a counterfeit. It doesn't just happen with money.

Yes Christianity is the counterfeit I agree.......

[McCulloch]

In other words, when our religion does it, it is a miracle. When your religion does it, it is demonic. Yeah, right.

For every real thing there is a counterfeit. It doesn't just happen with money.

How can I tell that your religion is the genuine article and all the others are counterfeit?

[Burninglight]

In other words, when our religion does it, it is a miracle. When your religion does it, it is demonic. Yeah, right.

For every real thing there is a counterfeit. It doesn't just happen with money.

How can I tell that your religion is the genuine article and all the others are counterfeit?

Call on the name of the Lord and you will be saved. Taste and see that the Lord is good. Ask and you shall receive, seek and you'll find knock and the door will be opened. You need to ask the right questions and seek the right things and knock on big doors. Ask Jesus for discernment