When God knows a soul goes to hell..

[sin_is_fun]

When God knows a soul is going to go to hell ,why does he still create that soul?Why create that soul ,judge it later and send it to eternal hell?Stopping creation of such souls seems to be a better option.Why does God create souls knowing fully well that it will land up in eternal hell?

[Chad]

Simple answer: God is a sadist.

Heh, anyways... I guess a normal answer would be that God gave us free will, so it would be ultimately up to us whether we go to hell or not. I obviously don't believe in God, heaven or hell, but that would be an answer I would expect.

[ShieldAxe]

When God knows a soul is going to go to hell ,why does he still create that soul?Why create that soul ,judge it later and send it to eternal hell?Stopping creation of such souls seems to be a better option.Why does God create souls knowing fully well that it will land up in eternal hell?

It's the all powerful god paradox again. Unanswerable.

[unicorn]

Two explanations I entertain:

1)There are an infinite number of possiblities to any decisions we make--courses our lives might take. God knows all those possibilities...the choices we make determine the possibilities we end up with. I don't think He creates a doomed soul. He creates a soul with the possilbility of a future...we chose to accept it or not.

2)To expand on the first explanation: when Jesus died on the cross--He died for EVERYONE. EVERYONE'S sins are forgiven before they are born (so, no one is born "doomed"). Again, it is our choice to accept that gift or not.

[Bugmaster]

He creates a soul with the possilbility of a future...we chose to accept it or not.

So, God does not know in advance what we'll choose ?

2)To expand on the first explanation: when Jesus died on the cross--He died for EVERYONE. EVERYONE'S sins are forgiven before they are born (so, no one is born "doomed"). Again, it is our choice to accept that gift or not.

Wait, so everyone is forgiven, and thus, no one goes to hell ?

[unicorn]

Bugmaster:

I answered both those your questions. Maybe you should reread what I said.

[A 3rd Gentleman]

Bugmaster:

I answered both those your questions. Maybe you should reread what I said.

You stated that your thoughts were that god has knowledge of all the possible choices a soul could make but wrote nothing to address the question of whether he has knowledge of what definite choices a soul will make. Theoretically, as a condition of omniscience, god should possess botn, no?

[McCulloch]

[W]hen Jesus died on the cross--He died for EVERYONE. EVERYONE'S sins are forgiven before they are born (so, no one is born "doomed"). Again, it is our choice to accept that gift or not.

Could you please clarify your position. Are you a Universalist implying that since Jesus died for everyone, then everyone will be saved? Or are you simply denying the doctrine, held by some Christians, of inherited sin? Do you believe that the choice to accept that gift must be made in this lifetime or can it be made sometime after death as it seems to have happened here:

For Christ died for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God. He was put to death in the body but made alive by the Spirit, through whom also he went and preached to the spirits in prison who disobeyed long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built. I Pet 3:18-20

[harvey1]

When God knows a soul is going to go to hell ,why does he still create that soul?Why create that soul ,judge it later and send it to eternal hell?Stopping creation of such souls seems to be a better option.Why does God create souls knowing fully well that it will land up in eternal hell?

As I seem to have to say a lot here, this is based on the assumption that the future is open and contingent: it has yet to occur. I think this is a wrong assumption. If you remove that assumption, then souls might exist in large diversity, each with a different causal history (not a real temporal history, though). The final state of these souls could be (for example) a paradise setting, but some souls may have went through a short period of gnashing of teeth to arrive at this final state. It could have been their choice to arrive at the final purified state through this means, and God allowed them to go through that purification process since they choose that path. Possibly, the consequence of having to go through a purification process may or may not be something that God choose, rather it might be a result of something that God choose (e.g., like we don't choose to use gasoline whenever we go somewhere in our car, this is a consequence of going somewhere). Someone can argue that God shouldn't have entered the car and driven in order to preserve gas, but God could have judged that getting to that particular destination was necessary and a holy thing to do despite the fact that gas was used.

I think what many fail to realize is that this is reality, and even God cannot choose everything about reality since God is part of what composes reality. On the other hand, I think God is omnipotent (I don't want to have this discussion here too) in that God choose to actualize the divine will. God is omnibenevolent also because God choose to actualize the divine will. The people who argue against God's choices can do so based on ignorance and therefore may not be in a position to judge God for the holy decisions that God made.

[unicorn]

A Third Gentleman: You didn't read what I wrote either.