What Is The Purpose Of A Soul?

Nirvana-Eld · Post by **Nirvana-Eld** » Thu Aug 25, 2005 9:54 pm

This is not one of those vague "meaning of life" quesiotns (at least I hope it isn't) But it is something I have never seen discussed or debated so i think it would be interesting. Anyone want to try and tackle this one?

bernee51 · Post by **bernee51** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 8:00 am

Diana Holberg wrote:Each of our souls is the spirit we know best... but the human soul is the lowest of spirits. Gaining knowledge of one's soul opens the door to a glimpse of higher spiritual activity. The two greatest activities of our spirits are knowing and loving.

So 'souls' and 'spirits' are the same in your view? Why is the human soul the lowest? How do you propose one gains knowledge of one's soul? Who determines this higher spirituality?

bernee51 · Post by **bernee51** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 8:14 am

Sender wrote:
Nirvana-Eld wrote: So you have no right to say that a God will send Bernee here to hell.
You have missed the whole point. I am not saying it.

You did say it (more than once) - would you like me to direct you to the posts(s). Or do you claim to speak for god?

Sender wrote: Look in the Bible if you don't think it is in there.

The bible is a book written by men. It is a collection of myths and metaphors no different from the hundreds of other 'sacred texts'. If you dont think there are any others I suggest you look at the The Internet Sacred Text Archive - "I encourage you to do that"

Serious question...why do you believe the bible is the word of god and all these others are not?

Sender wrote: But people who do not accept Jesus as Lord and Savior is gonna fry in hell.

Look you've said it again.

Prove that this is the truth.

(And while you are at it - where did god get all the energy from to create the universe?)

Sender · Post by **Sender** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 9:00 am

bernee51 wrote:
Sender wrote:
Nirvana-Eld wrote: So you have no right to say that a God will send Bernee here to hell.
You have missed the whole point. I am not saying it.
You did say it (more than once) - would you like me to direct you to the posts(s). Or do you claim to speak for god?

Sender wrote: Look in the Bible if you don't think it is in there.
The bible is a book written by men. It is a collection of myths and metaphors no different from the hundreds of other 'sacred texts'. If you dont think there are any others I suggest you look at the The Internet Sacred Text Archive - "I encourage you to do that"

Serious question...why do you believe the bible is the word of god and all these others are not?

Sender wrote: But people who do not accept Jesus as Lord and Savior is gonna fry in hell.
Look you've said it again.

Prove that this is the truth.

(And while you are at it - where did god get all the energy from to create the universe?)

I can show you it says that in the Bible, but if you don't believe in its validity, that is a waste. So I have nothing to offer but the truth.

bernee51 · Post by **bernee51** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 9:06 am

Sender wrote:
I can show you it says that in the Bible, but if you don't believe in its validity, that is a waste. So I have nothing to offer but the truth.

So you are saying that the bible is the word of god because it says so in the bible?

Would that be right?

Sender · Post by **Sender** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 9:13 am

bernee51 wrote:
Sender wrote:
I can show you it says that in the Bible, but if you don't believe in its validity, that is a waste. So I have nothing to offer but the truth.
So you are saying that the bible is the word of god because it says so in the bible?

Would that be right?

I does say that in there doesn't it. I believe because of that and many more reasons. Biggest one being Jesus is Lord.

Diana Holberg · Post by **Diana Holberg** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 9:17 am

Curious wrote:
QED wrote: Souls are interesting items. They are (correct me if I'm wrong) an entirely human property.
According to the bible, animals are living souls also. Even plants are if you believe in Karma.

That is correct. But only the human soul is also spirit.

Diana Holberg · Post by **Diana Holberg** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 9:27 am

bernee51 wrote:
Diana Holberg wrote:Each of our souls is the spirit we know best... but the human soul is the lowest of spirits. Gaining knowledge of one's soul opens the door to a glimpse of higher spiritual activity. The two greatest activities of our spirits are knowing and loving.
So 'souls' and 'spirits' are the same in your view?

No... The soul is the source of life -- so animals and plants have earthly souls too. But God provided man with a soul that is transformed to spirit.

Why is the human soul the lowest?

Lowest only in the sense of "least," as in quantity. We are not pure spirit while we are in the flesh.

How do you propose one gains knowledge of one's soul?

Soul or spirit? Those who view humans as advanced animals know only of the earthly soul. Those who understand that this is only a foretaste of eternity learn to develop their soul as spirit.

Who determines this higher spirituality?

God gave us the potential... we choose what we do with it.

Sender · Post by **Sender** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 9:32 am

Diana Holberg wrote: But only the human soul is also spirit.

That is not Bible based. The spirit and soul are separate. Where are you coming from with diferent levels of spirits?

bernee51 · Post by **bernee51** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 9:35 am

Sender wrote:
bernee51 wrote:
Sender wrote:
I can show you it says that in the Bible, but if you don't believe in its validity, that is a waste. So I have nothing to offer but the truth.
So you are saying that the bible is the word of god because it says so in the bible?

Would that be right?
I does say that in there doesn't it.

That is circular reasoning, the answer presupposes the question. It is erroneous

This is the same as saying that I am right because I say I am right.

Sender wrote: Biggest one being Jesus is Lord.

It says in the Bhagavad Gita that Krishna is Lord. Why is that not true?

Sender · Post by **Sender** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 9:43 am

bernee51 wrote:
Sender wrote:
bernee51 wrote:
Sender wrote:
I can show you it says that in the Bible, but if you don't believe in its validity, that is a waste. So I have nothing to offer but the truth.
So you are saying that the bible is the word of god because it says so in the bible?

Would that be right?
I does say that in there doesn't it.
That is circular reasoning, the answer presupposes the question. It is erroneous

This is the same as saying that I am right because I say I am right.

Sender wrote: Biggest one being Jesus is Lord.
It says in the Bhagavad Gita that Krishna is Lord. Why is that not true?

If you think it is true, tell me why or why not.