Are there just atheists here?
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Yes that's the problem. I (and a couple of other Christians) have to reply to five or six people of differing opinion, and when refuting a claim the original reply is usually longer, so do the math my friend, 5x or 6x is a lot of font.micatala wrote:So, the Christians are a significant presence on the board, but they also make fewer posts per person than the atheists.
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When Selfish Gene author Richard Dawkins challenged physicist John Barrow on his formulation of the constants of nature at last summer Templeton-Cambridge Journalism Fellowship lectures, Barrow laughed and said, “You have a problem with these ideas, Richard, because you aren''t really a scientist. You''re a biologist ! (Woo Hoo you go Barrow!)
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Yes that's the problem. I (and a couple of other Christians) have to reply to five or six people of differing opinion, and when refuting a claim the original reply is usually longer, so do the math my friend, 5x or 6x is a lot of font.micatala wrote:So, the Christians are a significant presence on the board, but they also make fewer posts per person than the atheists.
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When Selfish Gene author Richard Dawkins challenged physicist John Barrow on his formulation of the constants of nature at last summer Templeton-Cambridge Journalism Fellowship lectures, Barrow laughed and said, “You have a problem with these ideas, Richard, because you aren''t really a scientist. You''re a biologist ! (Woo Hoo you go Barrow!)
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Re: Are there just atheists here?
Post #23? Could you expand on that Joey?joeyknuccione wrote:The goofy, it hurts.
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When Selfish Gene author Richard Dawkins challenged physicist John Barrow on his formulation of the constants of nature at last summer Templeton-Cambridge Journalism Fellowship lectures, Barrow laughed and said, “You have a problem with these ideas, Richard, because you aren''t really a scientist. You''re a biologist ! (Woo Hoo you go Barrow!)
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I think maybe its because that many Christians are trying to practice what Jesus taught, which is modesty. Maybe the more 'polite' Christians think that 'modesty' etc means means turn the other cheek. That last sentence is a bit more loaded than it first appears, but I don't think it was intentional or malicious. I am not so sure if the problem is in the willingness to defend their world view as much as they don't know how to respond!McCulloch wrote:Agreed. The imbalance would make it difficult. It is unfortunate that we cannot find Christians willing to provide a reasoned defense of their world-view.
However peter knew ; 1 Peter 3:15 NIV
15But in your hearts set apart Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect,
I and a member had a misunderstanding, and the standards and of rules of evidence are not as strict as I once thought they were.Pastor4Jesus wrote: The standards of evidence was initially established by otseng, a Christian and validated by the moderating team, which consists of believers and non-believers.
Thank you. The moderating team is entirely volunteer. Please use the report button and / or Private Messages to indicate when any debater, believer or not, has violated the rules. Your help in this matter is appreciated very much by the moderating team.
Its been some time and I did report some infractions, but did not feel very good about it. Maybe the forum will become self regulating. BTW, I don't mind the difficulty, I invite it, as long as the playing field is level. And, as always, thanks for your reply.
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When Selfish Gene author Richard Dawkins challenged physicist John Barrow on his formulation of the constants of nature at last summer Templeton-Cambridge Journalism Fellowship lectures, Barrow laughed and said, “You have a problem with these ideas, Richard, because you aren''t really a scientist. You''re a biologist ! (Woo Hoo you go Barrow!)
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micatala wrote:So, the Christians are a significant presence on the board, but they also make fewer posts per person than the atheists.
I do feel for you there. I am trying to recruit Christian apologists, currently students at a Bible College where the daughter of a friend of mine attends, to this site. I do try to refrain from posting when I would be the fourth or fifth skeptic responding to the same believer's post. I am not always successful at holding myself back.Pastor4Jesus wrote:Yes that's the problem. I (and a couple of other Christians) have to reply to five or six people of differing opinion, and when refuting a claim the original reply is usually longer, so do the math my friend, 5x or 6x is a lot of font.
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Of course there is the 5 or 6 differing Christian opinions on every subject too.McCulloch wrote:micatala wrote:So, the Christians are a significant presence on the board, but they also make fewer posts per person than the atheists.I do feel for you there. I am trying to recruit Christian apologists, currently students at a Bible College where the daughter of a friend of mine attends, to this site. I do try to refrain from posting when I would be the fourth or fifth skeptic responding to the same believer's post. I am not always successful at holding myself back.Pastor4Jesus wrote:Yes that's the problem. I (and a couple of other Christians) have to reply to five or six people of differing opinion, and when refuting a claim the original reply is usually longer, so do the math my friend, 5x or 6x is a lot of font.
Or then there are the Christians that keep repeating themselves and the same thing over and over as if the claim was enough.
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Well, thanks for your kind considerations! When I get overloaded the quality of my posts which aren't grammatically wonderful to begin with, suffer dramaticallyWITH TH DUEFFAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.wrote:micatala wrote:So, the Christians are a significant presence on the board, but they also make fewer posts per person than the atheists.I do feel for you there. I am trying to recruit Christian apologists, currently students at a Bible College where the daughter of a friend of mine attends, to this site. I do try to refrain from posting when I would be the fourth or fifth skeptic responding to the same believer's post. I am not always successful at holding myself back.Pastor4Jesus wrote:Yes that's the problem. I (and a couple of other Christians) have to reply to five or six people of differing opinion, and when refuting a claim the original reply is usually longer, so do the math my friend, 5x or 6x is a lot of font.
When Selfish Gene author Richard Dawkins challenged physicist John Barrow on his formulation of the constants of nature at last summer Templeton-Cambridge Journalism Fellowship lectures, Barrow laughed and said, “You have a problem with these ideas, Richard, because you aren''t really a scientist. You''re a biologist ! (Woo Hoo you go Barrow!)
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Well, thanks for your kind consideration relating to these issues, I admire you for your attempt to recruit (Hee hee) the forum a team of christian apologists, I am always surprised and sometimes astonished at what thee' younger generation brings to this, the esteemed table of debate.McCulloch wrote:micatala wrote:So, the Christians are a significant presence on the board, but they also make fewer posts per person than the atheists.I do feel for you there. I am trying to recruit Christian apologists, currently students at a Bible College where the daughter of a friend of mine attends, to this site. I do try to refrain from posting when I would be the fourth or fifth skeptic responding to the same believer's post. I am not always successful at holding myself back.Pastor4Jesus wrote:Yes that's the problem. I (and a couple of other Christians) have to reply to five or six people of differing opinion, and when refuting a claim the original reply is usually longer, so do the math my friend, 5x or 6x is a lot of font.
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When Selfish Gene author Richard Dawkins challenged physicist John Barrow on his formulation of the constants of nature at last summer Templeton-Cambridge Journalism Fellowship lectures, Barrow laughed and said, “You have a problem with these ideas, Richard, because you aren''t really a scientist. You''re a biologist ! (Woo Hoo you go Barrow!)
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Post #29
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"From what I've experienced here sceptics don't like to evaluate the evidence for Christianity using a fair and reasonable historical standard. They complain about Red Herrings and such when we Christians try to."
What do you consider "a fair and reasonable historical standard?" The cornerstone of your belief after all is that a corpse came back to life, a claim which by any other standard is not only preposterous but impossible. What fair and reasonable standard makes the impossible reasonable? .
"From what I've experienced here sceptics don't like to evaluate the evidence for Christianity using a fair and reasonable historical standard. They complain about Red Herrings and such when we Christians try to."
What do you consider "a fair and reasonable historical standard?" The cornerstone of your belief after all is that a corpse came back to life, a claim which by any other standard is not only preposterous but impossible. What fair and reasonable standard makes the impossible reasonable? .
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I only repeat myself when someone demonstrates by his or her answer that they don't get it. I detest having to have to repeat myself but find that sometimes the person that I am responding to does not answer my replies but rather goes on and on and on like a deaf energizer bunny. Oh I do attempt to source my claims when asked.Cathar1950 wrote:Of course there is the 5 or 6 differing Christian opinions on every subject too.McCulloch wrote:micatala wrote:So, the Christians are a significant presence on the board, but they also make fewer posts per person than the atheists.I do feel for you there. I am trying to recruit Christian apologists, currently students at a Bible College where the daughter of a friend of mine attends, to this site. I do try to refrain from posting when I would be the fourth or fifth skeptic responding to the same believer's post. I am not always successful at holding myself back.Pastor4Jesus wrote:Yes that's the problem. I (and a couple of other Christians) have to reply to five or six people of differing opinion, and when refuting a claim the original reply is usually longer, so do the math my friend, 5x or 6x is a lot of font.
Or then there are the Christians that keep repeating themselves and the same thing over and over as if the claim was enough.
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When Selfish Gene author Richard Dawkins challenged physicist John Barrow on his formulation of the constants of nature at last summer Templeton-Cambridge Journalism Fellowship lectures, Barrow laughed and said, “You have a problem with these ideas, Richard, because you aren''t really a scientist. You''re a biologist ! (Woo Hoo you go Barrow!)