Ilias Ahmed´s hidden act!!!

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Ilias Ahmed´s hidden act!!!

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There is this newly registered poster Ilias Ahmad http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/p ... ile&u=3783. This guy is somehow too obsessed with my personal belief and couldn´t tolerate my avatar etc and added a thread to warn others here from me. Now he saw that I was continuously ignoring his utter rubbish as I wasn´t willing to lock horns with someone who can only preach "Hate for others".

Yesterday he sent me this Private-Message which I would like to show here as well answer him:
Ilias Ahmed wrote:Hey you Qadiani piece of trash. xxxx your Mirza that son of a bitch died on a toilet, what a lame excuse for a man, nevermind a prophet. May Mirza burn in hell for all time, that dajjal and kazzab, black faced liar filthy perverted swine.
You must have known by now that this man really isn´t worthy of being reply in anyway at all.

However, I will try:
Ilias Ahmad wrote:Hey you Qadiani piece of trash. xxxx your Mirza that son of a bitch died on a toilet, what a lame excuse for a man, nevermind a prophet.
Your former part doesn´t deserve a reply.

Ilias mate, could you please tell who told you that he died in toilet??? Was anyone of your ancestors cleaning toilet at that time??? Always remember one thing before calling anyone´s accursed death: Jesus Christ died a accursed death according to Jews and Christians. Muhammad was poisoned and died a accursed death according to Jews and Christians. But it´s only we who know the reality!
Ilias Ahmad wrote:May Mirza burn in hell for all time, that dajjal and kazzab, black faced liar filthy perverted swine.
I would have liked to see you praying to Allah to grant you a place in Paradise rather than asking for Hell for someone who never ever harmed you in a way or two.

By the way, weren´t you ever told by your teacher that even bad-mouthing is a big sin in Islam???

I´m here to warn you all from this idiot who want peace on The Board.
O People! See the difference between Mullah-ism and Islam. They both are two opposite things.

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the Qadiani wrote:It is clear, therefore, that Maulvi Sana-Ullah understood Hazrat Mirza Sahib’s Notice as a challenge to him to enter into a mubahila. THE MAULVI OPENLY DECLINED THIS CHALLENGE, and refused to accept the criterion of the liar dying within the life-time of the truthful one, as the means of determining which of them was supported by God. Hence, the fact that Hazrat Mirza Sahib died before Sana-Ullah does NOT go against the Founder, for his adversary plainly and openly refused to enter into the proposed mubahila and proclaimed that the liar need not die first.
Maulvi Sanaullah's reaction to Mirza's challenge is completely irrelevant. In the book "Truth about Ahmadiyyat" by Bashir Ahmad Rafiq, he quotes Mirza as writing:

Final decision concerning Maulvi Sanaullah Sahib, and concluded it with the statement: "Now Maulvi Sanaullah Sahib may write in response whatever he pleases. In case he accepts the challenge to a mubahilah he should record his acceptance of it over his signature."

So it is clear that your Mirza Qadiani didn't care how Maulvi sahib would react. Whether Maulvi sahib accepted or declined the challenge was of no consequence to the Mirza. He was determined to go through with the mubahala. Remember, Maulvi Sanaullah was just an ordinary Muslim, a learned scholar, but nothing special. He didn't claim to receive revelation or be a prophet, unlike your Mirza. Thus Allah answered the earnest pray of Mirza Qadiani and gave him a humiliating death in the lifetime of Maulvi sahib, because Mirza had prayed that the liar should die first, and he should die from a deadly disease.
They, along with the foreign Dr. Sutherland, unanimously declared the cause of death to be diarrhoea, not cholera.
Where is the documentation for this? Even if its true, its very funny, what kind of prophet dies from diarrhea?

But let us keep one thing in mind. Who knows better, a prophet or some doctors? According to Mirza's own final dying words: "I have developed epidemic cholera" (Hayat-e-Nasir, p. 14) Remember, these are not the words of Mir Nasir Nawab, he is only quoting what he directly heard Mirza Qadiani say. So every true Ahmadi must believe in what Mirza Qadiani says, if you are a true Ahmadi you must accept that he died from cholera, don't hide the true facts!!!
Bigmo wrote:The reality is the pagans knew that there was one God but diod not acknowledge that because it would have been a refutation of their heritage.
And what is the basis for this interpretation?
No sufis ever claimed they are worshiping other gods.
Shaykh Abdul Wahhab (rahmatullah alaih) did not attack all sufis. There are good sufis and bad sufis, according to Shaykhul Islam ibn Taimiya himself. Abdul Qadir Jilani (rahmatullah alaih), an orthodox hanbali sunni scholar, for example, was a great "sufi". Unfortunately, most of his so called followers, the "Qadris" have idolized him and turned him into an object of worship and gone flatly against his beautiful teachings.

The extreme sufis will never acknowledge that they commit shirk. But this does not change the fact that they call upon the dead for assistance, sacrifice animals in the name of their saints, and commit all manner of idolatry.

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nvm

i found my answer

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