The Existence of jinns

[CONVERTED TO ISLAM]

I would like to talk seriously about the jinn exists not only for atheists but for jewish and christians too
I will talk about

1 - Existence
2- Abilities
3- Occult Activities of the Jinn
4- Protection from the Jinn

and any thing in this subject will be from sheikh IBRAHIM who helped me to tell you any thing about the jinn

Throughout history man has always had a deep attraction for the supernatural and the unseen. The existence of a world parallel to our own has always fascinated people. This world is commonly referred to as the spirit world, and almost every set of people have some concept of one. With some people, these spirits are no more then the souls of dead people- or ghosts. With others, spirits are either the forces of good or the forces of evil - both battling against one another to gain influence over humanity. However, both of these explanations are more in tune with folk tales and fantasy. The true explanation of such a world comes from Islam. Like every other way, Islam also claims to explain this realm of the unseen. It is from this realm that Islam explains to us about the world of the Jinn. The Islamic explanation of the Jinn provides us with so many answers to modem day mysteries. Without the knowledge of this world, the Muslims would become like the non-Muslims and be running around looking for any old answer to come their way. So, who or what are the Jinn?

sheikh ibrahim site ww.thereligionofislam.com you can ask him any thing
(live chat)

[Goat]

2. Is she trustworthy?

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sure ,, she is the daughter of my uncle ,, and because of that she is muslim right now

Why do you assume that because she's a family member you can trust her?

that girl ( the daughter of my uncle ) is a very beautiful girl I mean very very very beautiful girl I can not describe her beauty in a few words
so that evil magician woman wanted her to love her son actually ugly son
but she ( the girl ) never wanted that guy so that magician woman put that magic into the juice because she was very angry

Can you not see that this concoction is what has caused the woman's hallucinations? By the way, there is nothing magic about such a drink.

5. What do you think caused the visions?

when she was looking at the mirror she saw a jinn
while her husband sleeping she saw him about to jump from the window
sometimes she see a very huge woman asking her to come with her to the second floor
well.. it is a jinn

Or it could be a hallucination. Or it could be she was making it up.

Or, it could be she is schizophrenic, with no medications. I wonder how many religious visions and sightings of demons have been untreated mental illness?

[OnceConvinced]

2. Is she trustworthy?

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sure ,, she is the daughter of my uncle ,, and because of that she is muslim right now

Why do you assume that because she's a family member you can trust her?

that girl ( the daughter of my uncle ) is a very beautiful girl I mean very very very beautiful girl I can not describe her beauty in a few words
so that evil magician woman wanted her to love her son actually ugly son
but she ( the girl ) never wanted that guy so that magician woman put that magic into the juice because she was very angry

Can you not see that this concoction is what has caused the woman's hallucinations? By the way, there is nothing magic about such a drink.

5. What do you think caused the visions?

when she was looking at the mirror she saw a jinn
while her husband sleeping she saw him about to jump from the window
sometimes she see a very huge woman asking her to come with her to the second floor
well.. it is a jinn

Or it could be a hallucination. Or it could be she was making it up.

Or, it could be she is schizophrenic, with no medications. I wonder how many religious visions and sightings of demons have been untreated mental illness?

Yes, very good point.

I have experience with such a thing myself. I belonged to a church where a woman there used to screem and thrash about in the middle of the church worship. Her eyes would bug out of her head and I think from memory she drooled a bit. I took that as proof of demons at the time. But now I question her mental status rather than the fact of whether she was possessed or not. (especially considering no one was ever able to exorcise the so-called demon)

I also had experience attempting to exorcize demons from a family member (in the days when I believed in "spiritual warfare". He would twist his body and moan a lot. His eyes would appear glazed over. I now think that sort of thing is often as a result of suggestion. If you believe you have demons in you and you see the way supposed possessed people behave you think you need to act the same way. And often I think it's more a subconscious thing, rather than deliberate. It's like going up to the front of a church during an alter call. People are often falling down due to the "holy spirit". So you naturally think the same should happen to you. So if you don't fall down, then it looks bad, because it means you aren't being touched by the Holy spirit. So you're open to the slightest bit of stimuli.

Ooooh, my legs are feeling a little weak. I better keel over.

Oh, I'm feeling a bit faint. I better go down.

Oh, there's a guy standing behind me ready to catch me if the Holy spririt knocks me down. Ok.. I'm feeling a little lightheaded. I might as well give in to it.

It's amazing what a bit of suggestion or other people's expectations can do.

[CONVERTED TO ISLAM]

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because there was a magic in that juice ( a magic make that jinn live in her body and no body can get that jinn out so you must get that magic out to get that jinn out )

What you are describing here is not magic, but a simple drug. It's possible it may be some undectable drug that the doctors could not find, if they indeed checked her over properly.

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in the 4th time he read for one hour he read (surah al baqarah)
that sheikh was saying ( get out of her ,, get out of her ) after one hour she puked and never saw that again till these days It was before more than one year

Generally when you puke drugs or poison out of you system, that's gonna make the difference.
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Drugs may work 8-24 hors not 2 months !

why she was screaming while the sheikh reading ?
why she told about the one who made that magic ? ( the jinn is the one who talked)

you said she puked the drug !!
well .. she had urine more than 100 times in 2 months
why she never been ok but after she puked ?
why she puked when he read curaan ?

[OnceConvinced]

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because there was a magic in that juice ( a magic make that jinn live in her body and no body can get that jinn out so you must get that magic out to get that jinn out )

What you are describing here is not magic, but a simple drug. It's possible it may be some undectable drug that the doctors could not find, if they indeed checked her over properly.

Quote:

in the 4th time he read for one hour he read (surah al baqarah)
that sheikh was saying ( get out of her ,, get out of her ) after one hour she puked and never saw that again till these days It was before more than one year

Generally when you puke drugs or poison out of you system, that's gonna make the difference.
_________________

Drugs may work 8-24 hors not 2 months !

why she was screaming while the sheikh reading ?
why she told about the one who made that magic ? ( the jinn is the one who talked)

you said she puked the drug !!
well .. she had urine more than 100 times in 2 months
why she never been ok but after she puked ?
why she puked when he read curaan ?

sigh. Continue to live your superstitious life Converted. Continue to wallow in primitive and ignorant beliefs. Modern society has moved on from such nonsense.

[Fallibleone]

I do not know but may this prove it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9hxQmzb ... re=related

CONVERTED, I'm afraid I'm a little disappointed by that. I've seen these things many, many times myself.

The first one was taken by a security camera at Hampton Court Palace in London. Now what happens there is that people dess up in costumes from the time of King Henry VIII to add to the atmosphere of the location (it was one of his palaces).

I visited Hampton Court during a half-term holiday in which characters in period dress served as live guides on the grounds. If you can go when activities like this are planned, please do. The events put on by the palace were fantastic. My son even enjoyed the lesson in Latin that was given by the young Prince Edward's "Tudor tutors."

http://www.igougo.com/attractions-revie ... alace.html

What you see there is probably one of these people. Just ask yourself this - why on earth would a ghost or Djinn bother closing a fire door? Isn't the more reasonable explanation that a member of staff dressed as a courtier from the time of Henry VIII noticed the door was open and closed it prior to locking up?

Those clips with figures in them - one of them was taken at a place which apparetly saw the first battle of the American Civil War - plenty of reenactment going on there, no doubt. In another one I couldn;t see anything at all. Another showed a figure moving from right to left. You know what I think? If you see something on a video clip which appears to be a person, it's probably a person.

The photograph - 'double exposure' was common in the days when images were captured on film.

So no, I'm afraid the clip from Maury doesn't prove a single thing, except that some people will readily believe whatever they are told, no matter how outlandish.

[CONVERTED TO ISLAM]

I do not know but may this prove it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9hxQmzb ... re=related

CONVERTED, I'm afraid I'm a little disappointed by that. I've seen these things many, many times myself.

The first one was taken by a security camera at Hampton Court Palace in London. Now what happens there is that people dess up in costumes from the time of King Henry VIII to add to the atmosphere of the location (it was one of his palaces).

I visited Hampton Court during a half-term holiday in which characters in period dress served as live guides on the grounds. If you can go when activities like this are planned, please do. The events put on by the palace were fantastic. My son even enjoyed the lesson in Latin that was given by the young Prince Edward's "Tudor tutors."

http://www.igougo.com/attractions-revie ... alace.html

What you see there is probably one of these people. Just ask yourself this - why on earth would a ghost or Djinn bother closing a fire door? Isn't the more reasonable explanation that a member of staff dressed as a courtier from the time of Henry VIII noticed the door was open and closed it prior to locking up?

Those clips with figures in them - one of them was taken at a place which apparetly saw the first battle of the American Civil War - plenty of reenactment going on there, no doubt. In another one I couldn;t see anything at all. Another showed a figure moving from right to left. You know what I think? If you see something on a video clip which appears to be a person, it's probably a person.

The photograph - 'double exposure' was common in the days when images were captured on film.

So no, I'm afraid the clip from Maury doesn't prove a single thing, except that some people will readily believe whatever they are told, no matter how outlandish.

What about my story ?

[Fallibleone]

If you want another deconstruction of it, I'll provide one, but it seems pointless given that others have already done the same thing and, no offence intended, the story is filtered through the medium of you.

So - do you still find some clips on Maury to be incontrovertible evidence of Djinn?