Noahism

[Kaizen CJM]

It is commonly believed of Judaism (Orthodox) that it is a separate religion which places Jews above Gentiles. This, however, is NOT the case. Judaim is a beautiful religion which accepts all of mankind. Jews under 613 commandments, and Gentiles under 7 main categories of commandments.

So what is Noahism?

To be a Noachide means that a Gentile has accepted his part, his role, in God's world. A Noachide is a Gentile who recognized that Judaism (Orthodox) is the one true religion. A Noachide accepts upon himself the commandments that God has given him. A Noachide accepts the Rambam's 13 principles of faith. A Noachide is a Gentile that has decided to follow Judaism. Many people do not know of us Noachides because of the fact that Judaism itself is quite a small religion. However, Judaism does have a place for all mankind, and for Gentiles. Yes, Jews are God's chosen people, but this in no way places them above the Gentiles. In Judaism, all men are equal, and all men have a place.

Any questions?

[cnorman18]

Interesting post. I am a convert to Judaism (Conservative branch), and the option of remaining a gentile and following the Noachide route was presented to me when I first began the conversion process. I chose the conversion route.

I don't think Noachites are only associated with the Orthodox, but I could be wrong.

Two questions only:

To what extent are you accepted and welcomed by the Jews with whom you associate?

Why do you not formally convert to Judaism?

[Kaizen CJM]

Interesting post. I am a convert to Judaism (Conservative branch), and the option of remaining a gentile and following the Noachide route was presented to me when I first began the conversion process. I chose the conversion route.

I don't think Noachites are only associated with the Orthodox, but I could be wrong.

Two questions only:

To what extent are you accepted and welcomed by the Jews with whom you associate?

Why do you not formally convert to Judaism?

As far as acceptance goes I would have to say that most Jews don't know what a Noahide is unless they are somewhat religiously devoted.

Also, I don't convert because I don't believe that's what God wants for me. Besides, I know I couldn't keep the 613 commandments.

[Goat]

Interesting post. I am a convert to Judaism (Conservative branch), and the option of remaining a gentile and following the Noachide route was presented to me when I first began the conversion process. I chose the conversion route.

I don't think Noachites are only associated with the Orthodox, but I could be wrong.

Two questions only:

To what extent are you accepted and welcomed by the Jews with whom you associate?

Why do you not formally convert to Judaism?

As far as acceptance goes I would have to say that most Jews don't know what a Noahide is unless they are somewhat religiously devoted.

Also, I don't convert because I don't believe that's what God wants for me. Besides, I know I couldn't keep the 613 commandments.

A large part of the 613 Commandments is dealing with behavior in the temple, and therefore is somewhat obsolete.

[Kaizen CJM]

A large part of the 613 Commandments is dealing with behavior in the temple, and therefore is somewhat obsolete.

They are not obsolete whatsoever. God himself created them and told us that they were eternal. He gave them to the Jews that through their performing them they would bring life and light into the world and be a "light unto the nations".

[Goat]

A large part of the 613 Commandments is dealing with behavior in the temple, and therefore is somewhat obsolete.

They are not obsolete whatsoever. God himself created them and told us that they were eternal. He gave them to the Jews that through their performing them they would bring life and light into the world and be a "light unto the nations".

I don't see them being able to be followed, since there is no temple.

[Kaizen CJM]

Which ones can't be followed?

[Pazuzu bin Hanbi]

I thought Noachide laws gained popularity a while back so that Gentiles could convert to join the early Christians without having to get circumcised — at Paul’s insistence they relaxed the Mosaic laws.

[cnorman18]

I thought Noachide laws gained popularity a while back so that Gentiles could convert to join the early Christians without having to get circumcised — at Paul’s insistence they relaxed the Mosaic laws.

Not related. The Noachide laws are merely the basic rules, according to Judaism, that all non-Jewish people must follow to be considered "righteous" and have a place in the World to Come, whatever that may mean.

Paul's revised rules were entirely different; they still forbade the consumption of blood, for instance, which is not included in the Noachide laws.

[Pazuzu bin Hanbi]

OK, thanks for the clarification. But I brought that up because the ‘party of Jesus’ actually wanted Gentiles to get circumcised and follow the full Mosaic laws, and after much controversy and heated arguments settled for (a revised version, it seems, of) Noachic law.