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Are you a Good Person?
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Gee - I only managed one out of ten as a not guilty. Does that make me 'bad'?Furrowed Brow wrote:I dared - I'm bad.
"Whatever you are totally ignorant of, assert to be the explanation of everything else"
William James quoting Dr. Hodgson
"When I see I am nothing, that is wisdom. When I see I am everything, that is love. My life is a movement between these two."
Nisargadatta Maharaj
William James quoting Dr. Hodgson
"When I see I am nothing, that is wisdom. When I see I am everything, that is love. My life is a movement between these two."
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Thank goodness that there really isn't a hell.Furrowed Brow wrote:One better than mebernee51 wrote:Gee - I only managed one out of ten as a not guilty. Does that make me 'bad'?Furrowed Brow wrote:I dared - I'm bad
“What do you think science is? There is nothing magical about science. It is simply a systematic way for carefully and thoroughly observing nature and using consistent logic to evaluate results. So which part of that exactly do you disagree with? Do you disagree with being thorough? Using careful observation? Being systematic? Or using consistent logic?�
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I love this test, acording to its rules millions of parents this holiday season are condemning themselves to hell simply by telling their children that santa is real.
If you really want anyone in heaven you gotta lighten up some.
If you really want anyone in heaven you gotta lighten up some.
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What are you going to say to Allah if it turns out that Islam is the one true religion?servant wrote:Goat do you have complete knowledge about everything? If you don't then can you be 100 percent sure there is no hell. Just hoping and believing there is no hell makes no matter if you die and find out you were wrong.
"Whatever you are totally ignorant of, assert to be the explanation of everything else"
William James quoting Dr. Hodgson
"When I see I am nothing, that is wisdom. When I see I am everything, that is love. My life is a movement between these two."
Nisargadatta Maharaj
William James quoting Dr. Hodgson
"When I see I am nothing, that is wisdom. When I see I am everything, that is love. My life is a movement between these two."
Nisargadatta Maharaj
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I am 100% sure.servant wrote:Goat do you have complete knowledge about everything? If you don't then can you be 100 percent sure there is no hell. Just hoping and believing there is no hell makes no matter if you die and find out you were wrong.
Are you 100% sure that Nastrand doesn't exist, and if you don't believe in Odin you will be sent there?
“What do you think science is? There is nothing magical about science. It is simply a systematic way for carefully and thoroughly observing nature and using consistent logic to evaluate results. So which part of that exactly do you disagree with? Do you disagree with being thorough? Using careful observation? Being systematic? Or using consistent logic?�
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Post #10I have seen this "test" before. It has more to do with polemic and propaganda than with actual religion.
For starters, it redefines 7 of the 10 to mean things that were not intended at Sinai; but never mind that.
According to this, God made us prone to sin (or, if you like, so we must bear the guilt of a single sun committed thousands of years ago), and then set up a list of rules that He knows are impossible to follow; then demands that we not make the smallest error, even as children, on pain of eternal punishment in Hell.
Whatever we do that is good is of no account whatever, so we ought not worry about doing good. That doesn't matter at all.
Only by thinking certain thoughts--that is, by believing something we are told--and by reciting a magic formula, can escape this terrible and inevitable fate.
Then, it doesn't matter what we have done, however depraved, evil, or murderous--everything is now OK and we get eternal bliss and reward. And it still doesn't matter if we do anything good, because now we don't have to; we are saved and OK and guaranteed a place in Heaven.
Good deeds don't matter at all, either way. Only mistakes count, every single one of them, and if we hold the right thoughts, then they don't matter either. Only the right thoughts matter. Nothing else.
Oh, yeah; and if your people have been slandered, persecuted, beaten, tortured, exiled, and murdered en masse for centuries, by Christians, explicitly in the name of Christ, to the point that you would never even consider adopting their religion, you have to go to Hell anyway--while their tormentors are rewarded with bliss in Heaven because they thought the right thoughts and said the right words.
Sorry. I believe in God--but not that God.
If you can explain to me why a Christian, who believes in Jesus as his personal savior, and who pours molten lead down the throat of a Jew who refuses to convert in an effort to force his watching family to do so, gets to go to Heaven while his victims go to Hell because they do NOT believe in Jesus as their personal savior--well, make me believe that that is God's justice, and I will believe in that God.
And while you're at it, convince me that black is white, up is down, and pigs can fly backwards.
For starters, it redefines 7 of the 10 to mean things that were not intended at Sinai; but never mind that.
According to this, God made us prone to sin (or, if you like, so we must bear the guilt of a single sun committed thousands of years ago), and then set up a list of rules that He knows are impossible to follow; then demands that we not make the smallest error, even as children, on pain of eternal punishment in Hell.
Whatever we do that is good is of no account whatever, so we ought not worry about doing good. That doesn't matter at all.
Only by thinking certain thoughts--that is, by believing something we are told--and by reciting a magic formula, can escape this terrible and inevitable fate.
Then, it doesn't matter what we have done, however depraved, evil, or murderous--everything is now OK and we get eternal bliss and reward. And it still doesn't matter if we do anything good, because now we don't have to; we are saved and OK and guaranteed a place in Heaven.
Good deeds don't matter at all, either way. Only mistakes count, every single one of them, and if we hold the right thoughts, then they don't matter either. Only the right thoughts matter. Nothing else.
Oh, yeah; and if your people have been slandered, persecuted, beaten, tortured, exiled, and murdered en masse for centuries, by Christians, explicitly in the name of Christ, to the point that you would never even consider adopting their religion, you have to go to Hell anyway--while their tormentors are rewarded with bliss in Heaven because they thought the right thoughts and said the right words.
Sorry. I believe in God--but not that God.
If you can explain to me why a Christian, who believes in Jesus as his personal savior, and who pours molten lead down the throat of a Jew who refuses to convert in an effort to force his watching family to do so, gets to go to Heaven while his victims go to Hell because they do NOT believe in Jesus as their personal savior--well, make me believe that that is God's justice, and I will believe in that God.
And while you're at it, convince me that black is white, up is down, and pigs can fly backwards.
