Intro - Bible Believing Christian

[codybarr]

My Name is Cody. I am a Christian, in stating that I qualify it with the declaration that I trust in Christ alone to save me from my sin.

My observations of the Natural World are based on a Biblical Worldview founded on the Word of God, for it is my sole authority for all matters relating to life and godliness. 2Pe 1:3.

For a Doctrinal Statement of my beliefs check out my Website - http://platip.us/doctrinal-creed (Sorry for the ugliness, it is often updated).

For a demonstration of what the Bible says regarding salvation check out: http://platip.us/gospel/

[codybarr]

The problem I see with translations is that translation always deals with interpretation, and theological viewpoints will change the way things are translated.

You will get such claims as 'Like a lion' becoming "pierced" and 'Young maiden' Becoming virgin.

What specific passages are you referring to, and what are the hebrew/greek words whose translation you disagree with? And which version are you speaking about?

[Goat]

The problem I see with translations is that translation always deals with interpretation, and theological viewpoints will change the way things are translated.

You will get such claims as 'Like a lion' becoming "pierced" and 'Young maiden' Becoming virgin.

What specific passages are you referring to, and what are the hebrew/greek words whose translation you disagree with? And which version are you speaking about?

Psalm 22:14. The phrase "k'ari" is "like a lion" -- i.e. "a band of evildoers has surrounded me, like a lion, (at) my hands and feet," and indeed, lions are mentioned elsewhere in that Psalm.


and of course, there is the arguement for the term "Almah" in Isaiah 7:14 , where the fundies insist it means virgin.. and it doesn't. If you read it in context, it is specifically referring to Isaiah's wife (the prophetess), and is the son is his own son.

[McCulloch]

As interesting as these points might be, let us not debate in the intro thread. If we wish to debate these things, post a question for debate in one of the debating threads.

[codybarr]

There are three reasons. Firstly, it is a reminder to other non-believers that there is some truth even in the Bible.

How do you differentiate between that which is true and that which is not?

The first, from 1 Thessalonians, is one of the most succinct descriptions of the scientific principle I have ever seen.

A testimony to the fact that the Christian Faith is not Illogical.

The second, words attributed to Jesus by the writer of John's Gospel, is also profound. I believe that truth will set humans free from the myths and untruths of religion.

Joh 8:31-34 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; [32] And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. [33] They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free? [34] Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.

If you rejected Christ...you're certainly not one of His disciples, and therefore do not know the truth. Jesus was actually talking about slavery to sin. Only Jesus can make you free from the bondage of your sin.

Thirdly, I enjoy the irony that the application of the principles of these passages are what led me to reject Christianity.

I think you got the application part wrong, see passage above.

[Biker]

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Welcome to the forum Cody.

I will be one of your opponents. Perhaps we will discuss and debate ideas honorably and ethically.

The statement of beliefs on your website includes,

"There is one God, the God of the Bible . . . ".

"The Bible is the inspired, inerrant Word of God."

Which one of the seventy-five or so versions of the bible, which differ from one another, is the "inerrant, inspired word of god"? How does one identify the correct version?

Which one of the 150,000 versions of evolution are the correct one, this week?
Which one of the 1,500,000 versions of the meaning of life are the correct one?

Biker

[Biker]

My Name is Cody. I am a Christian, in stating that I qualify it with the declaration that I trust in Christ alone to save me from my sin.

My observations of the Natural World are based on a Biblical Worldview founded on the Word of God, for it is my sole authority for all matters relating to life and godliness. 2Pe 1:3.

For a Doctrinal Statement of my beliefs check out my Website - http://platip.us/doctrinal-creed (Sorry for the ugliness, it is often updated).

For a demonstration of what the Bible says regarding salvation check out: http://platip.us/gospel/

Welcome codybarr to the forum. I am a Christian believer in Jesus Christ as well and in addition, a believer the inerrant Word of God.
It is assuring to know that one has an inerrant document that one can lean on, depend on, believe in, cling to, and trust in for their eternal well being and know the perfect creator of all, for all eternity, and develop a relationship with Him.
I look forward to hearing from a fellow believer in the inerrant Word of God and the One who purchased our salvation for us for all eternity.
Welcome brother in Christ!

Biker

[Biker]

Also, do you believe the Bible is the Word of God?

No, I do not.

If you don't, why do you post passages in your Signature?

There are three reasons. Firstly, it is a reminder to other non-believers that there is some truth even in the Bible. Secondly, I use them because I believe that they are true and profound. The first, from 1 Thessalonians, is one of the most succinct descriptions of the scientific principle I have ever seen. The second, words attributed to Jesus by the writer of John's Gospel, is also profound. I believe that truth will set humans free from the myths and untruths of religion. Thirdly, I enjoy the irony that the application of the principles of these passages are what led me to reject Christianity.

The irony that the application of the principles of these passages are what led me to reject Christianity.

Only an atheist could come up with that.

Biker

[Cathar1950]

Also, do you believe the Bible is the Word of God?

No, I do not.

If you don't, why do you post passages in your Signature?

There are three reasons. Firstly, it is a reminder to other non-believers that there is some truth even in the Bible. Secondly, I use them because I believe that they are true and profound. The first, from 1 Thessalonians, is one of the most succinct descriptions of the scientific principle I have ever seen. The second, words attributed to Jesus by the writer of John's Gospel, is also profound. I believe that truth will set humans free from the myths and untruths of religion. Thirdly, I enjoy the irony that the application of the principles of these passages are what led me to reject Christianity.

The irony that the application of the principles of these passages are what led me to reject Christianity.

Only an atheist could come up with that.

Biker

Another one-liner Biker?
Can you show us that only an atheist could come up with that?
Can you show us where the Bible says it is inerrant without misusing a forged letter in the Bible that you interpret poorly? Even your use of the "Word of God" is nothing more then a misinterpretation of what it the "Word" of God means.
I suspect you mistake being a Bible-Believer for being a Christian.

[Biker]

Also, do you believe the Bible is the Word of God?

No, I do not.

If you don't, why do you post passages in your Signature?

There are three reasons. Firstly, it is a reminder to other non-believers that there is some truth even in the Bible. Secondly, I use them because I believe that they are true and profound. The first, from 1 Thessalonians, is one of the most succinct descriptions of the scientific principle I have ever seen. The second, words attributed to Jesus by the writer of John's Gospel, is also profound. I believe that truth will set humans free from the myths and untruths of religion. Thirdly, I enjoy the irony that the application of the principles of these passages are what led me to reject Christianity.

The irony that the application of the principles of these passages are what led me to reject Christianity.

Only an atheist could come up with that.

Biker

Another one-liner Biker?
Can you show us that only an atheist could come up with that?
Can you show us where the Bible says it is inerrant without misusing a forged letter in the Bible that you interpret poorly? Even your use of the "Word of God" is nothing more then a misinterpretation of what it the "Word" of God means.
I suspect you mistake being a Bible-Believer for being a Christian.

Cathar,
Your humorless!
How about welcoming cody to the forum.
Do you ever get off your e-podium and be a regular friendly person?

Biker

[OnceConvinced]

Welcome Cody.
Hope you'll hang around and join in the discussions.

I intend to. And my intention was not to promote my website, but rather to explain my beliefs while using resources I have already created.

I see you must have viewed my reply before I edited it. I can see that you are definitely here to get involved by your post tally.