The Shortest Way To The Truth
There are two important things about knowing God and the way to the salvation of our souls that we have to consider to keep ourselves away from deceptions, to wit:
1. Neither the bible nor John, Luke, Matthew, Paul, and the rest of the apostles is God.
2. Jesus is Immanuel, who is always beside us all the time. He is in a 24/7 watch mode for us who will come to Him and call on Him for the salvation of our souls.
Why do we have to be so obsessed with biblical accounts that we treat them as if they were the only source of truth about God and the salvation of our souls when Jesus is with us always, though we do not see Him yet? He can surely bring us to the truth if we come to Him and call on Him in the right way. Jesus, real and forever living God, is the only way to the truth about God and our salvation.
The Shortest Way To The Truth
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Re: The Shortest Way To The Truth
Post #311Then your opinion is as wild as the Alaskan salmon laying eggs in the creek.BruceLeiter wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2026 11:12 pm [Replying to OneJack in post #310]
@OneJack, I have to give it to you as the master of trick questions. Of course, as you know, there's no place in the Bible that God and Jesus said that, but you have to understand something your apparition didn't tell you, millions of Christians have experienced God's transforming power through his Word.
Deal with the Lord through Himself, real and forever living, but not through the bible, which is not the Lord God.In my case, I had a lot of trouble with lust, and in reading through the Bible, God convicted me of my sin when I saw that Jesus equated adultery with lust.
Then, he led me to praise him with my mind for his creative power in making a beautiful woman. That praise in my mind took my attention off my selfish pleasure and onto him. In that way, he delivered me. I'm thankful. Such is God's power working through the Bible.
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Post #312[Replying to OneJack in post #312]
However, he overcame my lust by using his Word, the Bible, @OneJack. I'll give you another personal example:
When I was on the farm and 9 years old, I was bored with farm life and hated the farmwork. Then, in 1951, Dad brought home our first TV, and it became my mental escape from the farm, especially in watching sports, which became an unexamined idol in my life even when I became a Christian at the age of 16.
That idol which I thought about all day long persisted in my life until I was a pastor in my first church, where I preached a sermon on 1 Corinthians 10:31: "So, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God."
As a result, God created an internal dialogue in me by giving me these words, "Are you doing sports and TV watching to the glory of God?" I had to admit that I hadn't been honoring God with that activity. My two choices based on that verse were either to throw it all out of my life or to find some way to glorify God with my watching. As I began to watch sports events, I began to praise God as the great Creator of athletes' abilities, because he made their bodies.
The change in my watching of TV took my attention off of my selfish pleasure and onto God as the Creator and set me free from my idolatry to this day. Instead, sports watching became just a hobby.
I'm very thankful that God led me to choose praise for his great, creative power instead of avoiding it altogether, because I had something in common with unbelievers in swimming-pool locker rooms, which served as my point-of-contact and led to many opportunities to witness to those other men. That's how God changed my life through his Word.
However, he overcame my lust by using his Word, the Bible, @OneJack. I'll give you another personal example:
When I was on the farm and 9 years old, I was bored with farm life and hated the farmwork. Then, in 1951, Dad brought home our first TV, and it became my mental escape from the farm, especially in watching sports, which became an unexamined idol in my life even when I became a Christian at the age of 16.
That idol which I thought about all day long persisted in my life until I was a pastor in my first church, where I preached a sermon on 1 Corinthians 10:31: "So, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God."
As a result, God created an internal dialogue in me by giving me these words, "Are you doing sports and TV watching to the glory of God?" I had to admit that I hadn't been honoring God with that activity. My two choices based on that verse were either to throw it all out of my life or to find some way to glorify God with my watching. As I began to watch sports events, I began to praise God as the great Creator of athletes' abilities, because he made their bodies.
The change in my watching of TV took my attention off of my selfish pleasure and onto God as the Creator and set me free from my idolatry to this day. Instead, sports watching became just a hobby.
I'm very thankful that God led me to choose praise for his great, creative power instead of avoiding it altogether, because I had something in common with unbelievers in swimming-pool locker rooms, which served as my point-of-contact and led to many opportunities to witness to those other men. That's how God changed my life through his Word.
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Re: The Shortest Way To The Truth
Post #313Nice story! But let me ask you, how did God speak with you? Did God ordain you as a pastor?BruceLeiter wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2026 1:48 pm [Replying to OneJack in post #312]
However, he overcame my lust by using his Word, the Bible, @OneJack. I'll give you another personal example:
When I was on the farm and 9 years old, I was bored with farm life and hated the farmwork. Then, in 1951, Dad brought home our first TV, and it became my mental escape from the farm, especially in watching sports, which became an unexamined idol in my life even when I became a Christian at the age of 16.
That idol which I thought about all day long persisted in my life until I was a pastor in my first church, where I preached a sermon on 1 Corinthians 10:31: "So, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God."
As a result, God created an internal dialogue in me by giving me these words, "Are you doing sports and TV watching to the glory of God?" I had to admit that I hadn't been honoring God with that activity. My two choices based on that verse were either to throw it all out of my life or to find some way to glorify God with my watching. As I began to watch sports events, I began to praise God as the great Creator of athletes' abilities, because he made their bodies.
The change in my watching of TV took my attention off of my selfish pleasure and onto God as the Creator and set me free from my idolatry to this day. Instead, sports watching became just a hobby.
I'm very thankful that God led me to choose praise for his great, creative power instead of avoiding it altogether, because I had something in common with unbelievers in swimming-pool locker rooms, which served as my point-of-contact and led to many opportunities to witness to those other men. That's how God changed my life through his Word.
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Re: The Shortest Way To The Truth
Post #314[Replying to OneJack in post #314]
The Bible is clear that he uses other believers to bless us with his Word and his guidance. I felt God's definite, direct call to be a pastor after I became a Christian at the age of 16, @OneJack; and people confirmed my call later, after my period of rebellion while I taught English and was a sales manager. Then, God blessed my seminary education and my ministry in 7 churches for 27 years. I preached and taught God's Word faithfully, and people confirmed my ministry inside and outside the churches. You can read all about it in my book What God Has Done: My True, Dramatic God-Biography (Amazon).
The Bible is clear that he uses other believers to bless us with his Word and his guidance. I felt God's definite, direct call to be a pastor after I became a Christian at the age of 16, @OneJack; and people confirmed my call later, after my period of rebellion while I taught English and was a sales manager. Then, God blessed my seminary education and my ministry in 7 churches for 27 years. I preached and taught God's Word faithfully, and people confirmed my ministry inside and outside the churches. You can read all about it in my book What God Has Done: My True, Dramatic God-Biography (Amazon).
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Re: The Shortest Way To The Truth
Post #315[Replying to OneJack in post #1]
I generally agree, but the Lord is also the Word, and whatever the truth is from him. And so the genuine doctrinal, or doctrines about Him, again, if they are, are also from Him. So, He is not only the God, the Divine Man, but He is also in the truths, and so it is a great challenge to see, to know the truths about Him.
I generally agree, but the Lord is also the Word, and whatever the truth is from him. And so the genuine doctrinal, or doctrines about Him, again, if they are, are also from Him. So, He is not only the God, the Divine Man, but He is also in the truths, and so it is a great challenge to see, to know the truths about Him.
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Re: The Shortest Way To The Truth
Post #316The name of the Almighty God is Immanuel, or Mighty God, or Eternal Father, or Jesus; hence, the Almighty God is the Lord Jesus, or Immanuel, or......Eternal Father. The term "Word" comes from John's writings, but it is not mentioned in the book of Genesis. The Son of God was the man who was born of Mary, and who was the physical vessel of the Almighty God in His incarnation; hence, the name Jesus, or Immanuel, or.......Eternal Father.Consocius wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2026 11:54 am [Replying to OneJack in post #1]
I generally agree, but the Lord is also the Word, and whatever the truth is from him. And so the genuine doctrinal, or doctrines about Him, again, if they are, are also from Him. So, He is not only the God, the Divine Man, but He is also in the truths, and so it is a great challenge to see, to know the truths about Him.
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Re: The Shortest Way To The Truth
Post #317[Replying to OneJack in post #317]
If I understand you correctly, @OneJack, your "Jesus" discounted and minimized the "writings of John" compared to Genesis. Is that correct? If so, he is denying John's witness to the truths about the Word as follows: "Joh 21:24 This is the disciple who is bearing witness about these things, and who has written these things, and we know that his testimony is true." Are you saying that John was lying in claiming that his testimony about Jesus is true?
If I understand you correctly, @OneJack, your "Jesus" discounted and minimized the "writings of John" compared to Genesis. Is that correct? If so, he is denying John's witness to the truths about the Word as follows: "Joh 21:24 This is the disciple who is bearing witness about these things, and who has written these things, and we know that his testimony is true." Are you saying that John was lying in claiming that his testimony about Jesus is true?
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Re: The Shortest Way To The Truth
Post #318So are you saying God is communicating with mankind through YOU?
DIVINE COMMUNICATION
SCRIPTURE / THE BIBLEIs a paranormal encounter (audible voice from the spirit world) the ONLY way to hear from Jesus?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 9#p1187319
Are there phrases or sentences only the True God can utter ?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 6#p1187686
Should we believe testimonies that contradict or undermine those of Moses, the biblical Prophets and the eyewitness testimonies of the Apostles of Christ?
viewtopic.php?p=1187546#p1187546
Does Onejack have his own "bible" (written verbatim quotations from Almighty God Himself) ?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 6#p1188096
What did Jesus indicate should be done when testimonies conflict with scripture?
viewtopic.php?p=1187607#p1187607
Do faithful eyewitness testimonies "die" with their writers?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 3#p1187473
PARANORMAL ENCOUNTERS
How to identify the work of "deceptive spirits"?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 5#p1187545
Reasons to conclude Onejack's encounter was with a demon/satan and not Jesus
viewtopic.php?p=1187526#p1187526
Should all encounters with spirits claiming to be Christ be BELIEVED?
viewtopic.php?p=1187526#p1187526
How does Satan manipulate innocent people into believing they are having supernatural encounters with Jesus Christ
viewtopic.php?p=1187545#p1187545
THE NAME OF THE TRUE GOD
Can the Devil claim to be YAHWEH?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 0#p1187700
There is no written testimony where God declared "My name is Jesus"
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 0#p1187790
Can Satan claim to be Jesus Christ? ("Do not believe them")
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 9#p1187699
Can Satan claim to be Almighty God?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 8#p1187698
INDEX: More bible based ANSWERS
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 81#p826681
"For if we live, we live to Jehovah, and if we die, we die to Jehovah. So both if we live and if we die, we belong to Jehovah" - Romans 14:8
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 81#p826681
"For if we live, we live to Jehovah, and if we die, we die to Jehovah. So both if we live and if we die, we belong to Jehovah" - Romans 14:8
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Re: The Shortest Way To The Truth
Post #319God commanded us only to make all nations His disciples. Point me to the messages of the Lord I have shared in this forum, the part where you claim, in essence, the Lord Jesus has a demonic spirit, will you?JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Sun Jun 07, 2026 7:40 amSo are you saying God is communicating with mankind through YOU?
DIVINE COMMUNICATIONSCRIPTURE / THE BIBLEIs a paranormal encounter (audible voice from the spirit world) the ONLY way to hear from Jesus?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 9#p1187319
Are there phrases or sentences only the True God can utter ?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 6#p1187686Should we believe testimonies that contradict or undermine those of Moses, the biblical Prophets and the eyewitness testimonies of the Apostles of Christ?
viewtopic.php?p=1187546#p1187546
Does Onejack have his own "bible" (written verbatim quotations from Almighty God Himself) ?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 6#p1188096
What did Jesus indicate should be done when testimonies conflict with scripture?
viewtopic.php?p=1187607#p1187607
Do faithful eyewitness testimonies "die" with their writers?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 3#p1187473
PARANORMAL ENCOUNTERSHow to identify the work of "deceptive spirits"?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 5#p1187545
Reasons to conclude Onejack's encounter was with a demon/satan and not Jesus
viewtopic.php?p=1187526#p1187526
Should all encounters with spirits claiming to be Christ be BELIEVED?
viewtopic.php?p=1187526#p1187526
How does Satan manipulate innocent people into believing they are having supernatural encounters with Jesus Christ
viewtopic.php?p=1187545#p1187545
THE NAME OF THE TRUE GODCan the Devil claim to be YAHWEH?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 0#p1187700
There is no written testimony where God declared "My name is Jesus"
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 0#p1187790
Can Satan claim to be Jesus Christ? ("Do not believe them")
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 9#p1187699
Can Satan claim to be Almighty God?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 8#p1187698
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Re: The Shortest Way To The Truth
Post #320How sure are you that the book of John in the bible today came from John the apostle of Jesus? What is it to you if Jesus denies some parts in the book of John?BruceLeiter wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2026 11:44 am [Replying to OneJack in post #317]
If I understand you correctly, @OneJack, your "Jesus" discounted and minimized the "writings of John" compared to Genesis. Is that correct? If so, he is denying John's witness to the truths about the Word as follows: "Joh 21:24 This is the disciple who is bearing witness about these things, and who has written these things, and we know that his testimony is true." Are you saying that John was lying in claiming that his testimony about Jesus is true?
