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Why was Jesus sent?

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Let’s begin with the following: notice that Jesus' earthly ministry had nothing to do with the Gentiles. He explicitly stated that His mission was directed to Israel.
Matthew 15:24, “I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”
His instructions to the Twelve: Matthew 10:5–6, “Go not into the way of the Gentiles… But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”

Question: “For what purpose did the Father send his Son to Israel?” It was to fulfill the Old Testament prophecy about Israel’s Messiah.
Romans 15:8, “Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers.” The “circumcision” refers to Israel. His mission confirmed the covenants and prophecies given to Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and David.

Jesus was sent to call Israel to repentance and prepare them for the kingdom. John the Baptist and Jesus both preached the same message:
Matthew 3:2, John said, “Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.”
Matthew 4:17, Jesus said, “Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.” The kingdom was promised to Israel, 2 Samuel 7; Isaiah 9; Daniel 2, 7.

The prophets foretold that only a remnant of Jews would believe.
Isaiah 10:21–22, “A remnant shall return;” Verse 22, “Yet a remnant of them shall return.”
John 1:11–12, “He (Jesus) came unto his own, and his own received him not. But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, to them that believe on his name:” So, his ministry sifted Israel, revealing who would believe.

He came to offer salvation to Israel first, but later, Paul explains the order, Romans 1:16, “To the Jew first, and also to the Greek.”

Jesus came to reveal Himself as Israel’s promised King and Shepherd.
Matthew 21:5, “Behold, thy King cometh unto thee…”
Ezekiel 34:23 was a future prophecy, “I will set up one shepherd over them.”

When he comes, he identifies Himself as that Shepherd: John 10:11, “I am the good shepherd.”
He came to fulfill the law and the prophets. Matthew 5:17, “I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. To conclude, His ministry to Israel completed the prophetic requirements of the Messiah.

Question: “Did Jesus’ mission later expand beyond Israel?” It did, but only after His resurrection.
His post-resurrection command: Matthew 28:19, “Go ye therefore, and teach all nations…”
Mark 16:15, “Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.” So, the universal mission came only after His earthly ministry to Israel. And how was he going to accomplish this universal mission? It would be through men like Paul.

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Re: Why was Jesus sent?

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OneJack wrote: Sun May 03, 2026 1:38 am
Capbook wrote: Sun May 03, 2026 1:35 am
OneJack wrote: Sat May 02, 2026 9:18 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat May 02, 2026 2:57 am
OneJack wrote: Sat May 02, 2026 1:20 am
God reveals Himself to mankind through Himself only, not through the Bible, which you presume upon yourself, Bruce. Why can’t you put your trust in God alone? Why do you have to anchor the Lord to the bible?
OneJack, the event that untested spirit that comes to your family I believe is not among the list God said in the last days. (Acts 2:17)
1. will prophesy,
2. see visions,
3. dream dreams.

As you've mentioned, correct me if I'm wrong, the untested spirit spoke to your family through that boy, an event not included in the above list.

Act 2:17  And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: 
Wake up, Capbook, don't you see here you're putting God and Jesus in a box (bible)? Have a sane mind that Jesus is not bound and limited by anything, even by the bible.
OneJack, always be aware that the defense Jesus used against the devil in their face to face encounter was "it is written," I just believe you didn't do it as your untested spirit would never teach you that.
Well, I hope you’ll be at peace with your ‘it is written’ all the time. Good luck, Cspbook.
OneJack, I did't say it, Jesus do, it was His defense against the devil.
Why just don't try it to your untested spirit, if he will teach you that, then we are good.

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OneJack wrote: Sun May 03, 2026 1:36 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Sun May 03, 2026 1:15 am
OneJack wrote: Sat May 02, 2026 11:06 pm He proved Himself to us He is the Almighty God, He's able to read what's in our minds instantly ....

What scientists can do now

Researchers in fields like Neuroscience and Brain–Computer Interfaces have made impressive progress in interpreting brain activity.

Using tools like:

Electroencephalography (EEG)
Functional Magnetic Resonance Imaging (fMRI)

they can:

Detect general thoughts or intentions
For example, whether someone is thinking about moving their left or right hand.
Reconstruct rough images or words
In controlled lab settings, AI models can guess what image a person is looking at or approximate words they’re trying to say.
Decode speech attempts
In some cases, people who cannot speak can “type” using only brain signals.

A major milestone

In recent years, systems using AI and brain scans have been able to turn brain activity into text with surprising accuracy ...


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So humans using modern science are capable of reading brain activity, humans through hypnosis are capable of controlling people's mind, if you know anything about MK Ultra and brain to skull technology, humans are capable of implanting thoughts (that their victims believe are their own) and controlling human activity but you seriously suggest that Satan with his VASTLY superior intelligence and power cannot read or more likely implant thoughts into a human? What is spirit possession (as with for example a 14 year old boy ) if not controlling minds. "Reading" your minds would be a simple party trick for Satan.
You’re making things and evil spirits as if they were God ...
No, I'm proving that you set the bar to low for your fake "Jesus" demon spirit. You claim that its "reading your mind" was PROOF that it was Almighty God, I'm am demonstrating that such a criteria is no evidence that of divinity since even imperfect humans can, at least to a limited extent, do exactly that READ MINDS. If humans can interpret brain activity, then surely Satan the Devil can surely do far more. So all you have proved is you were possibly speaking to the king pin : SATAN THE DEVIL , or at least to one of his demonic understudies.

QUESTION Did your fake "Jesus" demon raise someone 4 days dead back to life before non believing eye witnesses? That would be a better demonstration of divine power don't you think?
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[Replying to OneJack in post #59]

FURTHER...

Your "spirit" did several things which as has been pointed out to you demonstrated demonic intent

- possessing of a minor (the only cases in scripture where CHILDREN* were controlled by spirits they were DEMONS)

*The child Samuel heard a divine message but your fake"Jesus" claimed to have taken over the body of the child and used its body as a vessel (classic demonic possession)

- undermined confidence in the integrity of inspirited scripture (your fake"Jesus" explicitly stated that only 3 (lost) pages of divinely written scripture are in the bible)

- implied that God is a failure (Namely that 3 pages were intended for all humanity but he (God) failed to ensure that our generation could find and read them=

- started a new (family based) SECT (a religion based entirely on personal paranormal encounters rather than careful study of revealed scripture, faith and prayer). A new religion of "FakeJesus-olators" , quoting, quoting, quoting their own personal form of spiritism rebranded.

There's no getting around it, your encounter bears all the hallmarks of demonic manipulation.
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JehovahsWitness wrote: Sun May 03, 2026 3:37 am [Replying to OneJack in post #59]

FURTHER...

Your "spirit" did several things which as has been pointed out to you demonstrated demonic intent

- possessing of a minor (the only cases in scripture where CHILDREN* were controlled by spirits they were DEMONS)

*The child Samuel heard a divine message but your fake"Jesus" claimed to have taken over the body of the child and used its body as a vessel (classic demonic possession)

- undermined confidence in the integrity of inspirited scripture (your fake"Jesus" explicitly stated that only 3 (lost) pages of divinely written scripture are in the bible)

- implied that God is a failure (Namely that 3 pages were intended for all humanity but he (God) failed to ensure that our generation could find and read them=

- started a new (family based) SECT (a religion based entirely on personal paranormal encounters rather than careful study of revealed scripture, faith and prayer). A new religion of "FakeJesus-olators" , quoting, quoting, quoting their own personal form of spiritism rebranded.

There's no getting around it, your encounter bears all the hallmarks of demonic manipulation.
You have witnessed nothing for you to judge the Lord wrongly by your mere presumption and opinion.

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OneJack wrote: Sun May 03, 2026 4:40 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Sun May 03, 2026 3:37 am [Replying to OneJack in post #59]

FURTHER...

Your "spirit" did several things which as has been pointed out to you demonstrated demonic intent

- possessing of a minor (the only cases in scripture where CHILDREN* were controlled by spirits they were DEMONS)

*The child Samuel heard a divine message but your fake"Jesus" claimed to have taken over the body of the child and used its body as a vessel (classic demonic possession)

- undermined confidence in the integrity of inspirited scripture (your fake"Jesus" explicitly stated that only 3 (lost) pages of divinely written scripture are in the bible)

- implied that God is a failure (Namely that 3 pages were intended for all humanity but he (God) failed to ensure that our generation could find and read them=

- started a new (family based) SECT (a religion based entirely on personal paranormal encounters rather than careful study of revealed scripture, faith and prayer). A new religion of "FakeJesus-olators" , quoting, quoting, quoting their own personal form of spiritism rebranded.

There's no getting around it, your encounter bears all the hallmarks of demonic manipulation.
You have witnessed nothing for you to judge the Lord wrongly by your mere presumption and opinion.
I don't judge the Lord, I judge your so-called spirit and that judgement is based on YOUR testimony. Is there anything that I have said that you deny? do you deny it took control of the body of a child? Do you claim that it didn't tell you that only 3 pages of God's word are in the bible and that those are lost despite the FACT that he said those very words were destined for all humanity including our generation? Do you deny you base your worship on everything that so-called "Jesus" told you without undeniable proof it was Almighty God ?

The Jesus of the bible demonstrated his power in an undeniable way before believers and doubters ... what about YOUR "Jesus"?


QUESTION Did your "Jesus" (which chould have been SATAN or a demon) raise someone 4 days dead back to life before non believing eye witnesses? That would be a better demonstration of divine power don't you think?
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Re: Why was Jesus sent?

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[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #65]
do you deny it took control of the body of a child?
Yes, the Lord did not take control of the body of the child, as He did to the Son of God, where He dwelt fully His fullness for approximately 33 years. The Lord just caused/used his mind to read instantly, in Tagalog, His messages written in a foreign language not normally readable to a child's mental capacity.

Do you claim that it didn't tell you that only 3 pages of God's word are in the bible
Verbatim, as you quoted, the Lord did not say that.
and that those are lost despite the FACT that he said those very words were destined for all humanity including our generation?
Yes, they were lost.
Do you deny you base your worship on everything that so-called "Jesus" told you without undeniable proof it was Almighty God ?
Copy and paste what I posted, verbatim, in this regard, what you have said is nothing but your opinion, too far apart from the truth.

The Jesus of the bible demonstrated his power in an undeniable way before believers and doubters ... what about YOUR "Jesus"?
You're not a witness to the Lord Jesus during His incarnation, much less are you with us when the Lord Jesus came into our lives in 2001; hence, you're just imagining things about the Lord Jesus in your quote above. In totality, you know nothing about the Lord Jesus, but only opinion and presumptions about Him, as written in the bible.
QUESTION Did your "Jesus" (which chould have been SATAN or a demon) raise someone 4 days dead back to life before non believing eye witnesses? That would be a better demonstration of divine power don't you think?
Your opinion is not Jesus' opinion, are they? Only Jesus' teachings matter always!

The one whom you have judged wrongly is the one who has said [to us], to wit:

"All of you who are listening, listen carefully! I am your Lord God. Who are you afraid of? I am the Almighty. Who are you intimidated by? Remember, when I am by your side, you have nothing to fear, nothing to worry about, because I will save you from any calamity if you trust in Me and regard Me as your salvation and eternal life. As your Lord, whom you alone will worship and none other, I am the one true God existing in heaven, earth, or universe. I created all things, I gave you life. Where will you go? If not to Me, you have nowhere else to go."

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OneJack wrote: Sun May 03, 2026 9:51 pmThe Lord just caused/used his mind to read instantly, in Tagalog, His messages written in a foreign language not normally readable to a child's mental capacity.
so, mind control of a child. A sort of abuse if ever there was... the only instances of people being out of their own minds in scripture were victims of DEMON attacks .... just sayin'.
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OneJack wrote: Sun May 03, 2026 9:51 pm
and that those are lost despite the FACT that he said those very words were destined for all humanity including our generation?
Yes, they were lost.
The real Jesus would never imply that God couldn't protect his own word. it seems that claiming the written words of God can be lost to mankind (ie that God wanted those words to be for all humanity but he failed to be able to ensure that happened) is something Satan the devil would say. Sorry but your mind controling "spirit" thing does not sound like the real Jesus.
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[Replying to OneJack in post #66]
OneJack wrote: Sun May 03, 2026 9:51 pm .... the Lord Jesus came into our lives in 2001
Well, someTHING came into your lives, that's for sure. Whether it was the real Jesus or a mind-controlling, child using demon that told you that the written words of God were lost and demanded you all to worship him, is another issue.
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OneJack wrote: Sun May 03, 2026 9:51 pm
QUESTION Did your "Jesus" (which chould have been SATAN or a demon) raise someone 4 days dead back to life before non believing eye witnesses? That would be a better demonstration of divine power don't you think?
Your opinion is not Jesus' opinion, are they? Only Jesus' teachings matter always!
And the real Jesus (as recorded by the gospel writers) testified that the RESURRECTION of a man 4 days dead was evident demonstration of divine power. It is not my opinion, it is the opinion of the Lord Jesus.
JOHN 11:41-44

Then Jesus raised his eyes heavenward+ and said: “Father, I thank you that you have heard me. 42 True, I knew that you always hear me; but I spoke on account of the crowd standing around, so that they may believe that you sent me.”+ 43 When he had said these things, he cried out with a loud voice: “Lazʹa·rus, come out!”+ 44 The man who had been dead came out with his feet and hands bound with wrappings, and his face was wrapped with a cloth. Jesus said to them: “Free him and let him go.”
Did your so-called "Jesus" raise someone from the dead in 2001? If not, why did you believe he was Almighty God? Since the words of this child using spirit is the basis for your faith, should you not have VERIFIED HIS IDENTITY?


The account you gave has "imposter" written all over it.


Sorry.
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