"A FLOOD of NONSENSE! - Global Flood or Mass Extinctions?"

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"A FLOOD of NONSENSE! - Global Flood or Mass Extinctions?"

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A delightful explanation of why the notion of a global flood---the Noachian Flood---doesn't make any sense.




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Question: Is any of what Forrest Valkai, the host, said, wrong? If so, what and why?



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Re: "A FLOOD of NONSENSE! - Global Flood or Mass Extinctions?"

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marke wrote: Fri May 09, 2025 7:15 am
Miles wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 7:48 pm .


A delightful explanation of why the notion of a global flood---the Noachian Flood---doesn't make any sense.




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Question: Is any of what Forrest Valkai, the host, said, wrong? If so, what and why?



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Marke: Forrest cannot see the facts for the twisted low-hanging trees of evolutionary dogmatism and brainwashing. No modern scientist will even try to prove the debunked theory that dinosaurs died off because of an asteroid hit.

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Yes, researchers have proposed several new theories regarding the event that led to the extinction of dinosaurs. While the Chicxulub asteroid impact is widely accepted as the primary cause, some recent theories explore alternative or supplementary mechanisms.
You seem to have forgotten to address the debate questions that you quoted and instead provided beliefs you happen to hold.

The questions were:
Is any of what Forrest Valkai, the host, said, wrong? If so, what and why?

Perhaps you meant to include a debate questions of your own and just forgot to?
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Re: "A FLOOD of NONSENSE! - Global Flood or Mass Extinctions?"

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Clownboat wrote: Fri May 09, 2025 11:34 am
marke wrote: Fri May 09, 2025 7:15 am
Miles wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 7:48 pm .


A delightful explanation of why the notion of a global flood---the Noachian Flood---doesn't make any sense.




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Question: Is any of what Forrest Valkai, the host, said, wrong? If so, what and why?



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Marke: Forrest cannot see the facts for the twisted low-hanging trees of evolutionary dogmatism and brainwashing. No modern scientist will even try to prove the debunked theory that dinosaurs died off because of an asteroid hit.

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Yes, researchers have proposed several new theories regarding the event that led to the extinction of dinosaurs. While the Chicxulub asteroid impact is widely accepted as the primary cause, some recent theories explore alternative or supplementary mechanisms.
You seem to have forgotten to address the debate questions that you quoted and instead provided beliefs you happen to hold.

The questions were:
Is any of what Forrest Valkai, the host, said, wrong? If so, what and why?

Perhaps you meant to include a debate questions of your own and just forgot to?

Marke: Forrest said the dinosaurs died off as a result of an astreroid hit. I simply pointed out the fact that his assumption was just one of many unproven assumptions of a similar origin.

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Re: "A FLOOD of NONSENSE! - Global Flood or Mass Extinctions?"

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marke wrote: Sat May 10, 2025 6:52 am Forrest said the dinosaurs died off as a result of an astreroid hit. I simply pointed out the fact that his assumption was just one of many unproven assumptions of a similar origin.
Really? What is your explanation for the Chicxulub asteroid event then?

"The Chicxulub asteroid, an object estimated to be around 10 kilometers (6.2 miles) across, is the name given to the asteroid that impacted Earth about 66 million years ago, near the current location of the Yucatan Peninsula in Mexico."

You can't just stick your head in the sand and pretend that this is just some unproven assumption. The evidence is there after all and should not be ignored just to make a religion more believable. Therefore I ask for your explanation for the currently existing evidence for this event.
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Re: "A FLOOD of NONSENSE! - Global Flood or Mass Extinctions?"

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Clownboat wrote: Mon May 12, 2025 2:52 pm
marke wrote: Sat May 10, 2025 6:52 am Forrest said the dinosaurs died off as a result of an astreroid hit. I simply pointed out the fact that his assumption was just one of many unproven assumptions of a similar origin.
Really? What is your explanation for the Chicxulub asteroid event then?

Marke: Like I said, the 40-year-old Chicxulub dinosaur extinction theory has now been overtaken by other theories, although just as speculative. I never believed one asteroid impact in the Gulf of America could kill off dinosaurs in SE Asia without wiping out many other species of animals on earth at the same time. I thought the theory was developed more from ideological necessity than from scientific data and reasoning.


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While the Chicxulub impact is the most widely accepted theory for the dinosaur extinction, it's not definitively proven. The evidence strongly supports the impact as a major factor, but other contributing factors like volcanic activity and natural climate change are also considered.




"The Chicxulub asteroid, an object estimated to be around 10 kilometers (6.2 miles) across, is the name given to the asteroid that impacted Earth about 66 million years ago, near the current location of the Yucatan Peninsula in Mexico."

You can't just stick your head in the sand and pretend that this is just some unproven assumption. The evidence is there after all and should not be ignored just to make a religion more believable. Therefore I ask for your explanation for the currently existing evidence for this event.

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Re: "A FLOOD of NONSENSE! - Global Flood or Mass Extinctions?"

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Clownboat wrote: Mon May 12, 2025 2:52 pm Really? What is your explanation for the Chicxulub asteroid event then?
Marke: Like I said, the 40-year-old Chicxulub dinosaur extinction theory has now been overtaken by other theories,
Please name the theories that you claim have overtaken the Chicxulux impact event and kindly inform us as to your explanation for the Chicxulub asteroid impact (the physical evidence).
Do you simply deny the evidence for it? I assume that is all you are doing, but await to be shown to be wrong.
I never believed one asteroid impact in the Gulf of America could kill off dinosaurs in SE Asia without wiping out many other species of animals on earth at the same time.
Neato!
Do you believe that days long dead bodies can reanimate to life, that a man lived in a fish for days or that fish and loaves were conjured up? Checking for consistency while I note that asteroids and their impacts are real events.
I thought the theory was developed more from ideological necessity than from scientific data and reasoning.
Only you can correct this deficiency. The evidence for the event is there for all to see and some ideological necessity doesn't explain the physical evidence.

This stands:
You can't just stick your head in the sand and pretend that this is just some unproven assumption. The evidence is there after all and should not be ignored just to make a religion more believable. Therefore I ask for your explanation for the currently existing evidence for this event.
You can give a man a fish and he will be fed for a day, or you can teach a man to pray for fish and he will starve to death.

I blame man for codifying those rules into a book which allowed superstitious people to perpetuate a barbaric practice. Rules that must be followed or face an invisible beings wrath. - KenRU

It is sad that in an age of freedom some people are enslaved by the nomads of old. - Marco

If you are unable to demonstrate that what you believe is true and you absolve yourself of the burden of proof, then what is the purpose of your arguments? - brunumb

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