A feasible alien Creator?

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A feasible alien Creator?

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Would it be more feasible for an atheist to believe in God if he considers him the Creator in a world of aliens that belong to another physical dimension? :?:

If that would be the case, then the problem of atheists would just be a matter of atheist prejudice and pride, just technicalities and wording ... vanity, IMO.

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Re: A feasible alien Creator?

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[Replying to marke in post #30]

So, no citation. Do I have to accept your claim on faith? Sorry, but no.

Pasteur did not disprove spontaneous generation as far as the origin of life is concerned. Please educate yourself.
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brunumb wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 9:08 pm [Replying to marke in post #30]

So, no citation. Do I have to accept your claim on faith? Sorry, but no.

Pasteur did not disprove spontaneous generation as far as the origin of life is concerned. Please educate yourself.
Nobody, not even Pasteur, has proven abiogenesis or disproven the Biblical account of creation.

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Re: A feasible alien Creator?

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marke wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 9:10 pm
brunumb wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 9:08 pm [Replying to marke in post #30]

So, no citation. Do I have to accept your claim on faith? Sorry, but no.

Pasteur did not disprove spontaneous generation as far as the origin of life is concerned. Please educate yourself.
Nobody, not even Pasteur, has proven abiogenesis or disproven the Biblical account of creation.
How is that citation coming? You are not spreading lies are you?
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Re: A feasible alien Creator?

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brunumb wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 8:23 pm
marke wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 1:57 am Richard Dawkins admitted he would consider the involvement of aliens in seeding original life on earth but only if those aliens were not created by God. Dawkin's statement reveals two things about him. First, he refuses to accept any scientific evidence, facts, or data that supports or possibly supports the existence of God.
Can you provide a citation that particularly references the part I highlighted? I find it quite a stretch to say that Dawkins refuses to accept scientific evidence.

Ben Stein got Dawkins to admit that there could well have been a higher form of intelligence than humans on earth involved with the formation of original life on earth, as long as it was not God. Stein asked Dawkings, so it could not have been the God of the Bible? Dawkins answered (paraphrased) "How could you ask that? That would be an unpleasant prospect. Of course I do not believe any god was involved."


marke wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 1:57 am Second, he has no clue how original life began on earth.
So what? No one does, not even creationists.

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Re: A feasible alien Creator?

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Clownboat wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:02 pm
marke wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 9:10 pm
brunumb wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 9:08 pm [Replying to marke in post #30]

So, no citation. Do I have to accept your claim on faith? Sorry, but no.

Pasteur did not disprove spontaneous generation as far as the origin of life is concerned. Please educate yourself.
Nobody, not even Pasteur, has proven abiogenesis or disproven the Biblical account of creation.
How is that citation coming? You are not spreading lies are you?
Richard Dawkins admitted he believed in the possibility that aliens may have been involved in the formation of original life on earth but he insisted that no god was involved either in the formation of aliens or in the formation of life on earth. That insistence is not a scientific view but a theological view since it lies outside the bounds of scientific inquiry.

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Yes, Richard Dawkins has publicly entertained the idea that aliens may have been involved in the formation of life on Earth, suggesting that extraterrestrials could have "seeded" life on our planet through a concept known as panspermia, where life originated elsewhere and traveled to Earth via meteorites or other means; this aligns with his view that the origin of life is a complex question open to scientific exploration, even if it involves the possibility of alien involvement.
Key points about Dawkins' stance on aliens and life's origins:
Panspermia theory:
Dawkins has expressed openness to the idea of panspermia, where life on Earth could have originated from alien microbes transported by meteorites or other cosmic events.
Not a religious belief:
While some might interpret this as a form of "intelligent design," Dawkins' position on alien involvement is purely scientific, not a belief in a deity or supernatural force.

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