about 3 years ago, I got the idea to take the Quran and to "Place it in chronological order" to allow Christians to see exactly what it says.
You might ask, why would this be so difficult? All one should do is to read the Quran and thats' it!
Well, for those that never read the Quran, anyone who did read it will confirm that it is a confusing, repetitive and incoherent book where you loose any line of thought within the first 2 pages.
It is as if it was written on Post'it papers, which was scattered by wind, picked up, and written in that confusing order.
To top it off, the Muslim translators used heavy archaic English to give it a taste of Shakespeare poetry.
I got the bright idea to take the Quran, and to sort of Categorize it as we find the Bible's chronology. Sort of starting off with Allah's version of Creation, then Adam and Eve, Noah to Abraham, Moses, the Kings, Prophets to Jesus, the early Church and to end with Revelation...the end.
As soon as I finished the first Chapter, that of Creation, I realized that this task will fail due to the very poor translations into English. I had to stop countless times to do a search on internet to find out what certain verses said, meant and many words were translated to sort of "Whitewash" it's meaning.
As I searched countless websites, I realized that I would have to create a much better Translation into English.
I then decided to take the Arabic Haf's version, and pulled it into an Excel document, using VBA to format it to be usable, and started to translate 75 877 Arabic words, one by one.
It took me 18 months.
I then pulled the English onto a Word document, and worked through the English, to have the literal translation changed into a better fluent reading, however still remaining close to the Literal wording as possible.
It took me a year.
Once this was done, I could get back to the original task I set out to do.
Categorize the Quran to have all the topics in Chronological sequence.
It took me 6 months.
Great! you might say...Why?
The reason is very simple.
As with the Bible, 80% of Christians never read it. 99% of Christians never read the Quran, and does not know what it says!
Whats worse, 99% of Muslims don't know what the Quran says too! Even though they will say that all Muslims memorize the Quran, they merely learn to chant the music and dont know the meaning at all. Very few Muslims are Arabic speaking in the West.
This situation created an environment that sells Islam as anything a Muslim scholar wants to sell it off as.
If you give a book to someone in the West, which is heavily confusing and poorly translated, they will never know how they are being mislead about its contents.
My Aim is not to turn Muslims into Christians at all. As a matter of fact, I dont want to speak to Muslim scholars, or to even debate with them, if I dont need too.
This task I finished is purely for the individual, Christian, Muslim or whoever, to read what I found, and to use it as a tool to discover the "Truth."
It will be a tool to Christians to discuss the Quran on equal footing with a highly educated Muslim apologist.
It will be a tool for Muslims to learn what the Christian now has as evidence from their own source of their religion.
I will post my research on this forum over the next few months, please feel free to critique.
I would obviously love to improve on it if possible.
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Post #2I will post at least twice a week.
Hope you can use this or find it interesting.
Chapter 1. The book of Creation by Lah, the God of Muhammad.
The first chapter of The Quran reveals the Name of the God of Islam.
1. The Quran starts off with a benediction to Allah. This is not the spoken words of Allah, but clearly the words of someone praising his God. It invokes a god by saying, “In the Name of Allah”. The word “Allah” is not a proper personal name, but simply means “The God”. The word “Allah = God” can be used in all languages as “The God”. It is the same as the Aramaic that uses the word Eloah as “God”, yet the biblical God revealed His Name as “YHWH”. The Arabic in the second verse of chapter 1, identifies the Name of the Arabic “Eloah / Allah” of Islam. The following is a word by word translation with the use of Computer software technology, which shows that the real name of the God of the Quran is “Lah”.
1.1 بِسْمِ اللهِ الرَّحْمَٰنِ الرَّحِيمِ
Bismi Allahi alrrahmani alrraheemi
In (the) name (of) Allah the Most Gracious the merciful
1.2 الْحَمْدُ لِلّٰهِ رَبِّ الْعَالَمِينَ
Alhamdu lillahi rabbi alAAalameena
Praises to Lah the Lord of the worlds
• In verse 2 it says, “Praises be to Lah”. The Arabic words ‘Al Hamdu Li Lah’ renders that “Lah” is the Quran “Allah / Eloah”. (Li-Lah = to-Lah) Therefore, in this publication the name “Lah” will be used for the God of Islam.
Lah’s description on how He created Heaven and Earth. He contradicts Himself when He says He did it in 8 days, or in 6 days, and even claims He did it instantaneous.
2. In the beginning , “Lah”, created the Earth and the seven Heavens in eight days. Lah gives a detailed description on how he created everything.
• He starts off and says that it took Him two days to create the Earth.
• He then continued, for four more days, and made mountains on top of the Earth and filled it with all the sustenance that was needed to support life.
• After these six days passed, Lah then turned towards the Heaven, when it was still Smoke (in a Nebulous state), and in an additional two more days, He shaped it into seven heavens. The total days of creation is now eight days.
• Lah was still not done. He says He made two lamps in ‘the sky of the Earth’, which is the Atmosphere.
• Observation: The description on how Lah claimed He created everything, is in gross violation with what science knows today.
• Lah had no Sun to count the eight days with, if He made it after the Earth and Heaven.
• He doesn’t know that the Earth is but a small speck in the Universe, and to say that the Earth was created before the Heavens, is a huge scientific error. (41:9- 12)
41: 9. Say, "Do you disbelieve in he who created the earth in two days, and you set equals up with Him? That is the Lord of the worlds.
41: 10. And He placed therein stabilizers (hills) on top of it, it and He blessed therein, and determined its sustenance therein in four equal days for those who ask.
41: 11. Afterwards He settled (turned) towards the sky, while it was smoke, and He said to it and to the earth. "Come both of you willingly or unwillingly" They both said We come willingly.
41: 12. Then He completed them as seven skies (heavens) in two days, and He revealed in each sky (heaven) its affair. And We decorated the sky of the earth with lamps to guard. That is the Decree of the dear the knowing.
3. Lah contradicts Himself and changes His recollection on what He created first. In 41:9-12 He said He created the Earth first, but in (79:27-33) He says He made the Heaven first, then “after that” flattened the Earth.
79: 27. Are you a stronger creation, or the sky He constructed?
79: 28. He raised its ceiling and fixed it.
79: 29. And He darkened its night and brought out its light.
79: 30. And after that He flattened (like carpet) the Earth.
79: 31. He brought forth from it its water and its pasture.
79: 32. And He made the mountains firm.
79: 33. As a provision for you and for your cattle.
4. Lah contradicts His time-frame of eight days of creation. In multiple verses He claims that it took Him only six days.. (10:3) (11:7) (32:4) (25:59) (57:4, 50:38) (50: 38)
10: 3. Indeed, your Lord is Allah who created the sky and the earth in six days, then He settled on the Throne managing the affairs. There is no intercessor, except by His permission. This is Allah your Lord, so worship Him. Do you not understand?.
11: 7. And it is He who created the sky and the earth in six days. His throne on the water, that He might test you, which of you is best in deeds. But, if you say, "Indeed, you will be resurrected after death." Surely the infidels would say. "This is not but a clear magic. "
32: 4. It is Allah who created the sky and the earth in six days, and whatever is between them. Then settled on the Throne. You do not have any protector or intercessor besides Him. Then will you not remember?
25: 59. It is He who created the sky and the earth, and whatever is between these two, in six days, then He settled on the Throne, the Compassionate, so ask Him who is aware.
57: 4. It is He who created the sky (heaven) and the earth in six days, then He settled on the Throne. He knows what penetrates the earth, and what comes forth from it, and what descends from the sky, and what ascends therein, and He is with you wherever you are. And Allah is a seer of what you do.
50: 38. And certainly, We created the sky (heaven) and the earth and whatever is between them in six days, and no fatigue touched Us.
5. Lah forgot that He said that, He created everything in eight or in six days. He now boasts that He made everything instantaneous by saying “Be!”, and it was, (6:73) (36:81-83) (2:117) (16:40) and in a twinkling of an eye. (54:49-50)
6: 73. And it is He Who created the sky and the earth in truth. And the Day He says. "Be!" and it is. His word (is) the truth And for Him is the kingdom. On the Day in the trumpet will be blown He is knowing of the unseen and the seen. And He is the wise the aware.
36: 81. Is it not (He), Who created the sky and the earth, able to create the like of them? Yes indeed! and He is the Creator the knowing.
36: 82. It is only His Command, when He intends a thing, He says to it, "Be" and it is.
36: 83. So glory be to in Whose hand is the kingdom of all things, and to Him you will be returned.”
2: 117. The Originator of the sky and the earth! And when He decrees an affair, He only say to it, "Be!" and it becomes.
16: 40. When We intend something to happen, Our word is that We say to it, "Be!" and it is.
54: 49. Indeed, We created everything by a measure.
54: 50. And Our Command is quick, like the twinkling of the eye.
Lah constructed the Sky above the Earth.
6. Lah makes even more errors on His recollection on how He created the Universe. Lah says He turned to the Sky, “after” He made the Earth. He then made the Sky into seven heavens. (41:11) (2:29)
• Even more confusing is His statement that He made the Earth, and everything on it, then instructed the sky and Earth to join each other. Lah has no idea that the Earth is part of the vast Universe and thinks the Earth was without a Sky and only afterwards called the Sky to reside on top of the Earth.
41: 11. Afterwards (After He made the earth) He settled (turned) towards the sky, while it was smoke, and He said to it and to the earth. "Come both of you willingly or unwillingly" They both said We come willingly.
2: 29. He created everything that is in the earth for you. He then rose upon the sky (heaven) and fashioned it into seven skies. And He knows everything.
7. Lah continues with His revelation that the Earth and sky were on top of each other. He says He raised the Sky above the Earth and made it stand on pillars you cannot see. Here we have Lah is explaining the Earth and Sky from the perspective of an Arab Bedouin’s point of view, and not from a Creators’ viewpoint who would know that the Earth is a small speck in the Universe and the Earth came in existence long after the Universe.. (13:2) (88:17-18)
13:2. It is Allah who raised the sky without pillars that you can see, then He settled on the Throne and subjected the sun and the moon, each running for an appointed term. He manages the affairs. He explains the verses so that you may believe with certainty in the meeting with your Lord.
88: 17. Do they not look towards the camels, how are they created?
88: 18. And towards the sky, how is it raised up?
8. Lah describes that His throne extends above the Sky, which is above the Earth, and He does not tire in guarding the Earth and Sky. Lah actually explains that the Earth, the seven Skies and His throne is on top of each other. The image of a layered cake is the best comparison and therefore, according to Lah ‘s view, the Earth is flat and the universe very small. (2:255)
2:255. Allah, there is no god except Him, the Ever Living the Sustainer of all that exists. Slumber, nor sleep overtakes Him. To Him belongs whatever is in the sky and whatever is in the earth. Who is he who can intercede with Him, except by His permission? He knows what is between their hands (present works) and what is behind them (Past works). And they cannot afflict anything of His Knowledge, except by what He willed. His Throne extends the sky and the earth. And He do not get tired with guarding both. And He is the High, the biggest.
9. Lah repeats His claim again and says that He build the seven heavens on top of the Earth, and made a burning lamp, after He made everything. Science knows that the Sun contains 99% of all matter in the Solar system and is not a small ball of fire in the atmosphere. This is a flat Earth version number two. (78:12-13)
78:12. And We built seven strong (heavens) over you.
78:13. And We made a burning lamp.
10. Lah reveals inaccuracy’s about the sky of the earth.
• He starts off by asking if the infidels can’t see that the sky laid down on top of the Earth, and He raised it up? (21:30)
• He says He made the sky is a ceiling, or a roof which He raised up above the Earth. (79:27-28, 52:5)
• He says He made it so perfect, you will not see any cracks and flaws in it, no matter how long you search the sky. (50:6) (67:3-4)
• Because the sky is a construction like a roof or a ceiling, Lah says it can crack up and fall on the Earth. (73:17-18) (52:44) This is a Flat Earth.
21: 30. Do the Kafar (infidels) not see that the sky and the earth both were joined together, then We parted them, and We made every living thing from water. Will they not believe?
21: 31. And We made stabilizers [hills] in the earth, lest it move away with them, and We made broad passes therein as ways so that they may be guided.
21: 32. And We made the sky a protecting roof. But they turn away from its Signs.
79: 27. Are you a stronger creation, or the sky He constructed?
79: 28. He raised its ceiling and fixed it.
52: 5. By the roof (sky) raised high.
50: 6. Then do they do not look at the sky above them, how We built it and decorated it does not have any cracks.
67: 3. He who created seven skies (heavens) in stages. You cannot see in the creation any fault of the Compassionate. So, keep looking, can you see any flaw?
67: 4. Then look twice again. Your vision will return to you humbled and fatigued.
73: 17. Then how will you guard yourselves, if you disbelieve a Day that will make the children Gray-haired?
73: 18. The sky will break apart by it, His Promise is to be fulfilled.
52: 43. Or do they have a god other than Allah? Glory be to Allah from what they associate (with Him).
52: 44. And if they were to see a portion of the sky falling, they will say, "Clouds heaped up."
11. Lah claims He created many other, such as Humans and speech, the Sun, Moon and stars which all worship Him, as well as the Earth and fodder for animals, but He again says He raised the sky. (55:1-13)
55: 1. the Compassionate.
55: 2. He taught the Quran.
55: 3. He created the human.
55: 4. He taught him the speech.
55: 5. The sun and the moon by calculation.
55: 6. And the stars and the trees both prostrate.
55: 7. And He raised the sky (heaven), and He has set up the balance.
55: 8. That not you may rebel in the balance.
55: 9. And keep the weighing in justice and do not make the balance deficient.
55: 10. And He laid the earth for the creatures.
55: 11. Therein is fruit and date-palms with sheaths.
55: 12. And the grain having husk, and scented plants.
55: 13. So which of the favours of your Lord will you deny?
12. Lah claims that there are seven roads above us in the sky to heaven. (23:17) He also says that if you have a long enough ladder, you will be able to reach heaven to listen to the Quran being recited . (52:38) Flat Earth theory.
23: 17. And indeed We have created seven paths above you, and We are not unaware of the creation.
52: 38. Or are for them a ladder to listen with? Then let their listener bring a clear authority.
13. Lah says that, even if He let the sky fall on our heads, we will still not believe the Quran. (17:89-94)
17: 89. And certainly, We have explained every example to people from this Quran, but most people refused in disbelief.
17: 90. And they say, "We will never believe in you until you cause a spring from the earth to gush forth for us.
17: 91. Or you have a garden of date-palms and grapes and cause rivers to gush forth abundantly within them.
17: 92. Or you cause the sky to fall in pieces upon us as you have claimed, or you bring Allah and the Angels before us.
17: 93. Or do you have a house of ornament, or you ascend into the sky. And never we will believe in your ascension, until you bring down a book to us where we could read in it, 'Say Glorified is my Lord! What am I but a human Messenger?'"
17: 94. And what prevented the people to believe when the (Revelation) came to them, then they said, "Does Allah send a human Messenger?"
Hope you can use this or find it interesting.
Chapter 1. The book of Creation by Lah, the God of Muhammad.
The first chapter of The Quran reveals the Name of the God of Islam.
1. The Quran starts off with a benediction to Allah. This is not the spoken words of Allah, but clearly the words of someone praising his God. It invokes a god by saying, “In the Name of Allah”. The word “Allah” is not a proper personal name, but simply means “The God”. The word “Allah = God” can be used in all languages as “The God”. It is the same as the Aramaic that uses the word Eloah as “God”, yet the biblical God revealed His Name as “YHWH”. The Arabic in the second verse of chapter 1, identifies the Name of the Arabic “Eloah / Allah” of Islam. The following is a word by word translation with the use of Computer software technology, which shows that the real name of the God of the Quran is “Lah”.
1.1 بِسْمِ اللهِ الرَّحْمَٰنِ الرَّحِيمِ
Bismi Allahi alrrahmani alrraheemi
In (the) name (of) Allah the Most Gracious the merciful
1.2 الْحَمْدُ لِلّٰهِ رَبِّ الْعَالَمِينَ
Alhamdu lillahi rabbi alAAalameena
Praises to Lah the Lord of the worlds
• In verse 2 it says, “Praises be to Lah”. The Arabic words ‘Al Hamdu Li Lah’ renders that “Lah” is the Quran “Allah / Eloah”. (Li-Lah = to-Lah) Therefore, in this publication the name “Lah” will be used for the God of Islam.
Lah’s description on how He created Heaven and Earth. He contradicts Himself when He says He did it in 8 days, or in 6 days, and even claims He did it instantaneous.
2. In the beginning , “Lah”, created the Earth and the seven Heavens in eight days. Lah gives a detailed description on how he created everything.
• He starts off and says that it took Him two days to create the Earth.
• He then continued, for four more days, and made mountains on top of the Earth and filled it with all the sustenance that was needed to support life.
• After these six days passed, Lah then turned towards the Heaven, when it was still Smoke (in a Nebulous state), and in an additional two more days, He shaped it into seven heavens. The total days of creation is now eight days.
• Lah was still not done. He says He made two lamps in ‘the sky of the Earth’, which is the Atmosphere.
• Observation: The description on how Lah claimed He created everything, is in gross violation with what science knows today.
• Lah had no Sun to count the eight days with, if He made it after the Earth and Heaven.
• He doesn’t know that the Earth is but a small speck in the Universe, and to say that the Earth was created before the Heavens, is a huge scientific error. (41:9- 12)
41: 9. Say, "Do you disbelieve in he who created the earth in two days, and you set equals up with Him? That is the Lord of the worlds.
41: 10. And He placed therein stabilizers (hills) on top of it, it and He blessed therein, and determined its sustenance therein in four equal days for those who ask.
41: 11. Afterwards He settled (turned) towards the sky, while it was smoke, and He said to it and to the earth. "Come both of you willingly or unwillingly" They both said We come willingly.
41: 12. Then He completed them as seven skies (heavens) in two days, and He revealed in each sky (heaven) its affair. And We decorated the sky of the earth with lamps to guard. That is the Decree of the dear the knowing.
3. Lah contradicts Himself and changes His recollection on what He created first. In 41:9-12 He said He created the Earth first, but in (79:27-33) He says He made the Heaven first, then “after that” flattened the Earth.
79: 27. Are you a stronger creation, or the sky He constructed?
79: 28. He raised its ceiling and fixed it.
79: 29. And He darkened its night and brought out its light.
79: 30. And after that He flattened (like carpet) the Earth.
79: 31. He brought forth from it its water and its pasture.
79: 32. And He made the mountains firm.
79: 33. As a provision for you and for your cattle.
4. Lah contradicts His time-frame of eight days of creation. In multiple verses He claims that it took Him only six days.. (10:3) (11:7) (32:4) (25:59) (57:4, 50:38) (50: 38)
10: 3. Indeed, your Lord is Allah who created the sky and the earth in six days, then He settled on the Throne managing the affairs. There is no intercessor, except by His permission. This is Allah your Lord, so worship Him. Do you not understand?.
11: 7. And it is He who created the sky and the earth in six days. His throne on the water, that He might test you, which of you is best in deeds. But, if you say, "Indeed, you will be resurrected after death." Surely the infidels would say. "This is not but a clear magic. "
32: 4. It is Allah who created the sky and the earth in six days, and whatever is between them. Then settled on the Throne. You do not have any protector or intercessor besides Him. Then will you not remember?
25: 59. It is He who created the sky and the earth, and whatever is between these two, in six days, then He settled on the Throne, the Compassionate, so ask Him who is aware.
57: 4. It is He who created the sky (heaven) and the earth in six days, then He settled on the Throne. He knows what penetrates the earth, and what comes forth from it, and what descends from the sky, and what ascends therein, and He is with you wherever you are. And Allah is a seer of what you do.
50: 38. And certainly, We created the sky (heaven) and the earth and whatever is between them in six days, and no fatigue touched Us.
5. Lah forgot that He said that, He created everything in eight or in six days. He now boasts that He made everything instantaneous by saying “Be!”, and it was, (6:73) (36:81-83) (2:117) (16:40) and in a twinkling of an eye. (54:49-50)
6: 73. And it is He Who created the sky and the earth in truth. And the Day He says. "Be!" and it is. His word (is) the truth And for Him is the kingdom. On the Day in the trumpet will be blown He is knowing of the unseen and the seen. And He is the wise the aware.
36: 81. Is it not (He), Who created the sky and the earth, able to create the like of them? Yes indeed! and He is the Creator the knowing.
36: 82. It is only His Command, when He intends a thing, He says to it, "Be" and it is.
36: 83. So glory be to in Whose hand is the kingdom of all things, and to Him you will be returned.”
2: 117. The Originator of the sky and the earth! And when He decrees an affair, He only say to it, "Be!" and it becomes.
16: 40. When We intend something to happen, Our word is that We say to it, "Be!" and it is.
54: 49. Indeed, We created everything by a measure.
54: 50. And Our Command is quick, like the twinkling of the eye.
Lah constructed the Sky above the Earth.
6. Lah makes even more errors on His recollection on how He created the Universe. Lah says He turned to the Sky, “after” He made the Earth. He then made the Sky into seven heavens. (41:11) (2:29)
• Even more confusing is His statement that He made the Earth, and everything on it, then instructed the sky and Earth to join each other. Lah has no idea that the Earth is part of the vast Universe and thinks the Earth was without a Sky and only afterwards called the Sky to reside on top of the Earth.
41: 11. Afterwards (After He made the earth) He settled (turned) towards the sky, while it was smoke, and He said to it and to the earth. "Come both of you willingly or unwillingly" They both said We come willingly.
2: 29. He created everything that is in the earth for you. He then rose upon the sky (heaven) and fashioned it into seven skies. And He knows everything.
7. Lah continues with His revelation that the Earth and sky were on top of each other. He says He raised the Sky above the Earth and made it stand on pillars you cannot see. Here we have Lah is explaining the Earth and Sky from the perspective of an Arab Bedouin’s point of view, and not from a Creators’ viewpoint who would know that the Earth is a small speck in the Universe and the Earth came in existence long after the Universe.. (13:2) (88:17-18)
13:2. It is Allah who raised the sky without pillars that you can see, then He settled on the Throne and subjected the sun and the moon, each running for an appointed term. He manages the affairs. He explains the verses so that you may believe with certainty in the meeting with your Lord.
88: 17. Do they not look towards the camels, how are they created?
88: 18. And towards the sky, how is it raised up?
8. Lah describes that His throne extends above the Sky, which is above the Earth, and He does not tire in guarding the Earth and Sky. Lah actually explains that the Earth, the seven Skies and His throne is on top of each other. The image of a layered cake is the best comparison and therefore, according to Lah ‘s view, the Earth is flat and the universe very small. (2:255)
2:255. Allah, there is no god except Him, the Ever Living the Sustainer of all that exists. Slumber, nor sleep overtakes Him. To Him belongs whatever is in the sky and whatever is in the earth. Who is he who can intercede with Him, except by His permission? He knows what is between their hands (present works) and what is behind them (Past works). And they cannot afflict anything of His Knowledge, except by what He willed. His Throne extends the sky and the earth. And He do not get tired with guarding both. And He is the High, the biggest.
9. Lah repeats His claim again and says that He build the seven heavens on top of the Earth, and made a burning lamp, after He made everything. Science knows that the Sun contains 99% of all matter in the Solar system and is not a small ball of fire in the atmosphere. This is a flat Earth version number two. (78:12-13)
78:12. And We built seven strong (heavens) over you.
78:13. And We made a burning lamp.
10. Lah reveals inaccuracy’s about the sky of the earth.
• He starts off by asking if the infidels can’t see that the sky laid down on top of the Earth, and He raised it up? (21:30)
• He says He made the sky is a ceiling, or a roof which He raised up above the Earth. (79:27-28, 52:5)
• He says He made it so perfect, you will not see any cracks and flaws in it, no matter how long you search the sky. (50:6) (67:3-4)
• Because the sky is a construction like a roof or a ceiling, Lah says it can crack up and fall on the Earth. (73:17-18) (52:44) This is a Flat Earth.
21: 30. Do the Kafar (infidels) not see that the sky and the earth both were joined together, then We parted them, and We made every living thing from water. Will they not believe?
21: 31. And We made stabilizers [hills] in the earth, lest it move away with them, and We made broad passes therein as ways so that they may be guided.
21: 32. And We made the sky a protecting roof. But they turn away from its Signs.
79: 27. Are you a stronger creation, or the sky He constructed?
79: 28. He raised its ceiling and fixed it.
52: 5. By the roof (sky) raised high.
50: 6. Then do they do not look at the sky above them, how We built it and decorated it does not have any cracks.
67: 3. He who created seven skies (heavens) in stages. You cannot see in the creation any fault of the Compassionate. So, keep looking, can you see any flaw?
67: 4. Then look twice again. Your vision will return to you humbled and fatigued.
73: 17. Then how will you guard yourselves, if you disbelieve a Day that will make the children Gray-haired?
73: 18. The sky will break apart by it, His Promise is to be fulfilled.
52: 43. Or do they have a god other than Allah? Glory be to Allah from what they associate (with Him).
52: 44. And if they were to see a portion of the sky falling, they will say, "Clouds heaped up."
11. Lah claims He created many other, such as Humans and speech, the Sun, Moon and stars which all worship Him, as well as the Earth and fodder for animals, but He again says He raised the sky. (55:1-13)
55: 1. the Compassionate.
55: 2. He taught the Quran.
55: 3. He created the human.
55: 4. He taught him the speech.
55: 5. The sun and the moon by calculation.
55: 6. And the stars and the trees both prostrate.
55: 7. And He raised the sky (heaven), and He has set up the balance.
55: 8. That not you may rebel in the balance.
55: 9. And keep the weighing in justice and do not make the balance deficient.
55: 10. And He laid the earth for the creatures.
55: 11. Therein is fruit and date-palms with sheaths.
55: 12. And the grain having husk, and scented plants.
55: 13. So which of the favours of your Lord will you deny?
12. Lah claims that there are seven roads above us in the sky to heaven. (23:17) He also says that if you have a long enough ladder, you will be able to reach heaven to listen to the Quran being recited . (52:38) Flat Earth theory.
23: 17. And indeed We have created seven paths above you, and We are not unaware of the creation.
52: 38. Or are for them a ladder to listen with? Then let their listener bring a clear authority.
13. Lah says that, even if He let the sky fall on our heads, we will still not believe the Quran. (17:89-94)
17: 89. And certainly, We have explained every example to people from this Quran, but most people refused in disbelief.
17: 90. And they say, "We will never believe in you until you cause a spring from the earth to gush forth for us.
17: 91. Or you have a garden of date-palms and grapes and cause rivers to gush forth abundantly within them.
17: 92. Or you cause the sky to fall in pieces upon us as you have claimed, or you bring Allah and the Angels before us.
17: 93. Or do you have a house of ornament, or you ascend into the sky. And never we will believe in your ascension, until you bring down a book to us where we could read in it, 'Say Glorified is my Lord! What am I but a human Messenger?'"
17: 94. And what prevented the people to believe when the (Revelation) came to them, then they said, "Does Allah send a human Messenger?"
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Post #3The Creation story from the Quran continue...
Lah’s Earth is flat.
14. As we learned from the Quran, Lah explicitly describes that the Sky laid on top of the Earth. He then raised the sky. He also states that He placed mountains on the Earth to prevent the Earth to move away with us, and He repeats and says that the sky is a protecting roof. (21:30-33) (Lah does not know that Mountains are the result of tectonic activity, and does not keep the Earth stable at all. You can only have such ideas if you are of mind that the Earth is flat and the mountains are keeping it down. Flat Earth theory.
21: 30. Do the Kafar (infidels) not see that the sky and the earth both were joined together, then We parted them, and We made every living thing from water. Will they not believe?
21: 31. And We made stabilizers [hills] in the earth, lest it move away with them, and We made broad passes therein as ways so that they may be guided.
21: 32. And We made the sky a protecting roof. But they turn away from its Signs.
21: 33. And He created the night and the day and the sun and the moon, each swimming in the sky.
15. Lah repeats His claim and says that He spread the Earth out and He threw mountains on the Earth to stabilize it. (88:19-20) (50:7) (15:19)
• Lah also says He is the best of all the Spreaders because He spread the Earth. (51:47-48)
• He made the sky a structure and the Earth a Bed. (2:22)
• He flattened the Earth and made roads on it. (71:19-20)
• Lah repeatedly confirms that He made the earth flat, like a bed, and He pegged the Earth down with mountains to prevent it from moving with you if you move. (71:18-20) (43:9-11) (31:10) (79:30-33) Flat Earth theory.
88: 19. And towards the mountains, how are they fixed?
88: 20. And towards the earth, how is it spread out?
50: 7. And We spread the earth out and cast stabilizers (hills) therein, and We planted therein of every beautiful pair (plants).
15: 19. And We have spread the earth, and casted stabilizers (hills) on it, and caused therein of everything measured (weighted) to grow.
51: 47. And the sky (heaven), We built it with hands, and indeed We are its Expanders (plural?).
51: 48. And We have spread the earth, how excellent are the Spreaders (plural?)!
2: 22. He who made the earth a bed for you and the sky a structure and send water from the sky then gave fruits as food to you. So, do not knowingly make other gods equal with Allah.
71: 19. And Allah flattened (like a carpet) the earth for you.
71: 20. That you may go along therein in wide paths."
71: 18. Then He will return you into it and will bring you forth by a resurrection.
71: 19. And Allah flattened (like a carpet) the earth for you.
71: 20. That you may go along therein in wide paths."
78: 6. Have We not made the earth a bed?
78: 7. And the mountains as pegs?
43: 9. And if you ask them, "Who created the sky (heaven) and the earth?" They will surely say, "The dear the knowing created them."
43: 10. He who made the earth a bed for you and made roads for you therein so that you may be guided.
43: 11. And he who sends water down from the sky in (due) measure, then We revive a dead land with it. Like that, you will be brought forth.
31: 10. He created the sky without pillars that you see and has cast stabilizers [hills] on the earth, lest it the earth move away with you, and He dispersed every creature in it. And We send down water from the sky, then We planted of every generous pair therein.
79: 30. And after that He flattened (like carpet) the Earth.
79: 31. He brought forth from it its water and its pasture.
79: 32. And He made the mountains firm.
79: 33. As a provision for you and for your cattle.
16. If Lah realy exists, He possesses nothing more than the knowledge an Arab Bedouin who thinks God is the one who holds the earth and sky up. (35:41)
• He even goes so far as to imagine that if He releases His grip holding the Sky up above the Earth, it will fall on our heads. (22:65) Flat Earth theory.
35: 41. Indeed Allah upholds the sky and the earth lest they both cease. And if they both should cease, no one can uphold them after Him. Indeed, He is tolerant forgiving.
22: 65. Do you not see that Allah has subjected to you what is in the earth and that the ships sail through the sea by His Command? And He withholds the sky lest it falls on the earth, except by His permission? Indeed, Allah is compassionate merciful to the people.
Lah’s Earth is flat.
14. As we learned from the Quran, Lah explicitly describes that the Sky laid on top of the Earth. He then raised the sky. He also states that He placed mountains on the Earth to prevent the Earth to move away with us, and He repeats and says that the sky is a protecting roof. (21:30-33) (Lah does not know that Mountains are the result of tectonic activity, and does not keep the Earth stable at all. You can only have such ideas if you are of mind that the Earth is flat and the mountains are keeping it down. Flat Earth theory.
21: 30. Do the Kafar (infidels) not see that the sky and the earth both were joined together, then We parted them, and We made every living thing from water. Will they not believe?
21: 31. And We made stabilizers [hills] in the earth, lest it move away with them, and We made broad passes therein as ways so that they may be guided.
21: 32. And We made the sky a protecting roof. But they turn away from its Signs.
21: 33. And He created the night and the day and the sun and the moon, each swimming in the sky.
15. Lah repeats His claim and says that He spread the Earth out and He threw mountains on the Earth to stabilize it. (88:19-20) (50:7) (15:19)
• Lah also says He is the best of all the Spreaders because He spread the Earth. (51:47-48)
• He made the sky a structure and the Earth a Bed. (2:22)
• He flattened the Earth and made roads on it. (71:19-20)
• Lah repeatedly confirms that He made the earth flat, like a bed, and He pegged the Earth down with mountains to prevent it from moving with you if you move. (71:18-20) (43:9-11) (31:10) (79:30-33) Flat Earth theory.
88: 19. And towards the mountains, how are they fixed?
88: 20. And towards the earth, how is it spread out?
50: 7. And We spread the earth out and cast stabilizers (hills) therein, and We planted therein of every beautiful pair (plants).
15: 19. And We have spread the earth, and casted stabilizers (hills) on it, and caused therein of everything measured (weighted) to grow.
51: 47. And the sky (heaven), We built it with hands, and indeed We are its Expanders (plural?).
51: 48. And We have spread the earth, how excellent are the Spreaders (plural?)!
2: 22. He who made the earth a bed for you and the sky a structure and send water from the sky then gave fruits as food to you. So, do not knowingly make other gods equal with Allah.
71: 19. And Allah flattened (like a carpet) the earth for you.
71: 20. That you may go along therein in wide paths."
71: 18. Then He will return you into it and will bring you forth by a resurrection.
71: 19. And Allah flattened (like a carpet) the earth for you.
71: 20. That you may go along therein in wide paths."
78: 6. Have We not made the earth a bed?
78: 7. And the mountains as pegs?
43: 9. And if you ask them, "Who created the sky (heaven) and the earth?" They will surely say, "The dear the knowing created them."
43: 10. He who made the earth a bed for you and made roads for you therein so that you may be guided.
43: 11. And he who sends water down from the sky in (due) measure, then We revive a dead land with it. Like that, you will be brought forth.
31: 10. He created the sky without pillars that you see and has cast stabilizers [hills] on the earth, lest it the earth move away with you, and He dispersed every creature in it. And We send down water from the sky, then We planted of every generous pair therein.
79: 30. And after that He flattened (like carpet) the Earth.
79: 31. He brought forth from it its water and its pasture.
79: 32. And He made the mountains firm.
79: 33. As a provision for you and for your cattle.
16. If Lah realy exists, He possesses nothing more than the knowledge an Arab Bedouin who thinks God is the one who holds the earth and sky up. (35:41)
• He even goes so far as to imagine that if He releases His grip holding the Sky up above the Earth, it will fall on our heads. (22:65) Flat Earth theory.
35: 41. Indeed Allah upholds the sky and the earth lest they both cease. And if they both should cease, no one can uphold them after Him. Indeed, He is tolerant forgiving.
22: 65. Do you not see that Allah has subjected to you what is in the earth and that the ships sail through the sea by His Command? And He withholds the sky lest it falls on the earth, except by His permission? Indeed, Allah is compassionate merciful to the people.
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Post #4The last post for the week. The Creation story of the Quran continue...
Lah is ignorant on Astronomy, Gravity, Aerodynamics, and the Atmosphere.
17. Lah’s ignorance on the Universe does not stop there.
• He incorrectly teaches us about astronomy and says that the Sun runs to a stable at night and the Moon has houses.
• Lah says that, the Sun can never overtake the Moon, and the Sun and Moon floats in an orbit over the Earth. His description renders the thought that the Sun as well as the Moon orbits the Earth as partners. Lah is unaware that the Sun does not orbit the Earth as the Moon does. (36:38-40) Geocentric model.
36: 38. And the sun runs to its stable. That is the Decree of the dear the knowing.
36: 39. And We have decreed for the moon houses, until it returns like the old date stalk.
36: 40. The sun is not permitted that it overtakes the moon, and the night cannot outstrip the day, but they all are floating in an orbit.
18. When Lah says the Sun and Moon ‘swims’ through the sky, He again demonstrates His understanding that the Sun is a heavenly body that moves through the sky, and it is not the Earth that turns on its axis. (21:33)
• Lah’s claim that the Sun and Moon will join each other on the Last Day is further evidence that He thinks the Sun is equal in size to that of the Moon. He does not know that the Sun contains 99% of all matter in the Solar system. (75:9) Geocentric model.
21: 33. And He created the night and the day and the sun and the moon, each swimming in the sky.
75: 9. And the sun and the moon are joined.
19. Lah says that whilst the men of Ephesus were sleeping for 100 years, the sun dodged its path preventing to shine on them .
• When it rose, it moved to the right, and when it declined to set, it moved to the left. Lah says this is His sign. (There is no possibility that the Sun could have changed it’s movement.)
18: 17. And you might have seen the sun when it rose inclining away from their cave to the right, and when it set passing away from them to the left, while they in the open space thereof. That is from the Signs of Allah. Whoever Allah guides and he is the guided one, and whoever He misleads then you will never find a guide a protector for him.
20. Lah claims He created 7 Heavens and 7 Earths. (65:12) The Quran says nothing about these seven Earths, but the Commentator on the Quran, Al-Tabari, (Vol. 1, pp. 207-208.) explains that there are 7 Earths, like islands, surrounded by oceans. Another commentator, Al Tirmidhi in his Hadith 5735, quotes one of Muhammad’s companions Abu Hurayrah as saying that Muhammad taught that there are another 6 Earths below ours with a distance of 500 years in between each. This will make sense in the Islamic viewpoint that there are 7 heavens stacked upon each other, with 7 Earths layered below these heavens.
65: 12. It is Allah who created seven skies (heavens) and of the earth the same number. The command descends through them, that you may know that Allah is mighty on everything. And that Allah may own all things in knowledge.
21. Lah does not know that Birds employs aerodynamics to fly, but He claims that it is Him who keeps birds up in the sky. (16:79) (67:19)
16: 79. Do they not see the birds hangs amid the sky? None holds them up except Allah. Indeed, in that are Signs for people who believe.
67: 19. Don’t they see the birds above them, spreading and folding their wings? Nothing holds them, except the Compassionate. Indeed, He is a seer of everything.
22. It is important to remember the claim of Lah, when He said that He made the seven skies and placed the Sun, Moon and Stars in the atmosphere. (41:12) This was how He misunderstood of what he heard about the Genesis account of creation. What Genesis says is that the Sun, Moon and Stars were created in the beginning, but their light, or illumination, started to shine into the Atmosphere on the fourth day, after the Sun reached its critical Nuclear fusion. The Bible does not say that God made the Sun, Moon and Stars on the fourth day. Lah and Muhammad’s misunderstanding is perhaps the most single piece of evidence that the Quran is nothing better than an incorrect hearsay of what Muhammad heard from the Jews and Christians when they read the Torah in their religious gatherings.
41: 12. Then He completed them as seven skies (heavens) in two days, and He revealed in each sky (heaven) its affair. And We decorated the sky of the earth with lamps to guard. That is the Decree of the dear the knowing.
23. Lah even declares that He placed the galaxies in the atmosphere together with the Sun and Moon. (25:61) Lah repeatedly confirms that the Sun, Moon, and Stars are in the nearest sky, the atmosphere.
• Lah boasts to show His power, when He tells us that He shoots the devils with shooting stars if they try to get into heaven. (67:5)
• Lah repeats that He placed the galaxies in the atmosphere and He protects the sky by shooting Satan and the devils with shooting stars from all sides when they want to steal some of the words of the Quran. These shooting stars follow the devils like guided missiles. (15:16-18)
• Lah elaborates and says that no man or devil will ever be able to pass the sky to enter the heaven. He will shoot them with a flame of fire and smoke. (55:33-35) It seems as if NASA has yet to confirm if they ever reached the Moon.
25: 61. Blessed is He Who has placed constellations in the sky and has placed therein a lamp and a shining moon.
67: 5. And certainly, We have decorated the nearest sky with lamps, and We made them as missiles for the devils, and We have prepared the punishment of the Blaze for them.
15: 16. And certainly, We have placed constellations in the sky, and We decorated it to the onlookers.
15: 17. And We have protected it from every stoned Shaytaan (pelted with stones).
15: 18. Except those who steals by hearing, then a shooting Star follows him.
55: 33. O assembly of the jinn and the men! If you can pass beyond the regions of the sky heaven and the earth, then pass. You cannot pass, except by authority.
55: 34. So which of the favours of your Lord will you both deny?
55: 35. A flame of fire and smoke will be sent against you and not you will not win.
24. Lah thinks ‘Paradise’ is as wide as the Earth and Atmosphere. This indicates an understanding that Earth and space are flat. (57:21) Flat Earth theory.
57: 21. Race to the forgiveness from your Lord, and a Garden, its width is like the width the sky and the earth, prepared for those who believe in Allah and His Messengers. That is the Bounty of Allah. He gives to whom He wills. And Allah is the Possessor of great bounty.
25. Lah is the one who throws lightning, just like the “Allah Zeus”, and He strikes people He don’t like with it. (13:12-13)
13: 12. It is He who shows you the fearing lightning, and a hope, and brings up the heavy clouds.
13: 13. And the thunder glorifies with its praise, and the Angels for fear of Him. And He sends the thunderbolts and strikes with it whom He wills, yet they dispute about Allah. And He is severe in Strength.
26. Lah thinks the Moon generates its own light, but we know that it is only reflecting the light coming from the Sun. (71:14-17), (10:5)
71: 14. And He created you in stages.
71: 15. Do you not see how Allah created the seven skies (heavens) in layers?
71: 16. And made the moon a light and made the sun a lamp therein.
71: 17. And Allah made you to grow from the earth (as) plants.
10: 5. It is He who made the sun a shining light and the moon a light and determined houses for it that you may know the number of the years and the count (of time). Allah did not create this except in truth. He explains the signs to people who understand.
27. He also claims that the Moon split in two pieces in the 7th century during Muhammad’s lifetime. Today we know this never happened. 54:1) Lah also gave a false prophecy because we all know the Last hour did not occur.
54: 1. The Hour Has come near and the moon has split.
28. Lah is unaware that Darkness is not a created entity, but it is merely the absence of light. (79:29)
• He claims He created darkness. (6:1) (21:33) (36:37)
• He also thinks the Night is a covering over the Earth. (78:10-11)
• He adds to His error by giving a detailed description on how the Night and Day is a ‘Covering” that covers the Earth. (39:5) (10:6) (7:54)
• Lah says it is He who causes the night and Day to enter each other. (22:61)
• Lah does not understand light at all, but thinks Day is a blanket of light, and Night a blanket of darkness which He throws over the Earth.
79: 29. And He darkened its night and brought out its light.
6: 1. Praise to Lah who created the sky and the earth and made the darkness (?) and the light. But those who made others equal with their Lord are infidels.
21: 33. And He created the night and the day and the sun and the moon, each swimming in the sky.
36: 37. And a Sign for them is the night, We withdraw it from the day. Then they are in darkness.
78: 10. And We made the night a covering.
78: 11. And We made the day for livelihood.
39: 5. He created the sky and the earth in truth. He wraps the night over the day and wraps the day over the night. And He subjected the sun and the moon, each running for a specified term. Surely, He is the dear, the forgiving.
10: 6. Indeed, in the alternation of the night and the day and what Allah created in the sky and the earth, are Signs to people who are God conscious.
7: 54. Indeed, your Lord is Allah, He who created the sky and the earth in six days, then He settled on the Throne. He covers the night with the day pursuing it rapidly, and the sun and the moon and the stars are subjected by His command. Surely for Him is the creation and the command. Blessed is Allah Lord of the worlds.
22: 61. That is because Allah causes the night to enter the day and causes the day to enter into the night. And indeed, Allah is hearing, a seer.
29. Lah claims there are two Easts and two Wests. He does not understand that the sunrises during the annual solstice’s has nothing to do with the position of East and West. (55:17)
55: 17. Lord of the two Easts and Lord of the two Wests.
30. Lah is totally ignorant about the movement of shade and does not understand that it is due to the Suns’ position relative of an object to the surface of the shade. He thinks that shadows prostrate to Him. (13:15, 16:48)
• He gives a very funny explanation that it is He who stretches out the shadows, He says He could have made shadows stationary, but He draws the shadows to Him. (25:45-46) a 3 year old knows more about his shadow than what Lah does.
13: 15. And whoever is in the sky and the earth prostrates to Lah, willingly or unwillingly, and so do their shadows in the mornings and in the afternoons.
16: 48. Have they not seen that Allah has created everything, their shadows lean towards to the right and to the left, prostrating to Allah while they are humble?
25: 45. Do you not see how your Lord; He extends the shadow? And if He willed, surely, He could have made it stationary. Then, We made the sun for it evidence.
25: 46. Then We draw it to Us, a gradual drawing.
31. Muhammad was scarred of Darkness but Allah saved him from it. (6:63-64)
6: 63. Say, "Who saves you from darkness of the land and the sea? You call Him humbly and secretly, 'If He saves us from this, surely we will be the grateful ones'."
6: 64. Say, "Allah saves you from it and from every distress, then you associate (partners with Allah)"
Lah is ignorant on Astronomy, Gravity, Aerodynamics, and the Atmosphere.
17. Lah’s ignorance on the Universe does not stop there.
• He incorrectly teaches us about astronomy and says that the Sun runs to a stable at night and the Moon has houses.
• Lah says that, the Sun can never overtake the Moon, and the Sun and Moon floats in an orbit over the Earth. His description renders the thought that the Sun as well as the Moon orbits the Earth as partners. Lah is unaware that the Sun does not orbit the Earth as the Moon does. (36:38-40) Geocentric model.
36: 38. And the sun runs to its stable. That is the Decree of the dear the knowing.
36: 39. And We have decreed for the moon houses, until it returns like the old date stalk.
36: 40. The sun is not permitted that it overtakes the moon, and the night cannot outstrip the day, but they all are floating in an orbit.
18. When Lah says the Sun and Moon ‘swims’ through the sky, He again demonstrates His understanding that the Sun is a heavenly body that moves through the sky, and it is not the Earth that turns on its axis. (21:33)
• Lah’s claim that the Sun and Moon will join each other on the Last Day is further evidence that He thinks the Sun is equal in size to that of the Moon. He does not know that the Sun contains 99% of all matter in the Solar system. (75:9) Geocentric model.
21: 33. And He created the night and the day and the sun and the moon, each swimming in the sky.
75: 9. And the sun and the moon are joined.
19. Lah says that whilst the men of Ephesus were sleeping for 100 years, the sun dodged its path preventing to shine on them .
• When it rose, it moved to the right, and when it declined to set, it moved to the left. Lah says this is His sign. (There is no possibility that the Sun could have changed it’s movement.)
18: 17. And you might have seen the sun when it rose inclining away from their cave to the right, and when it set passing away from them to the left, while they in the open space thereof. That is from the Signs of Allah. Whoever Allah guides and he is the guided one, and whoever He misleads then you will never find a guide a protector for him.
20. Lah claims He created 7 Heavens and 7 Earths. (65:12) The Quran says nothing about these seven Earths, but the Commentator on the Quran, Al-Tabari, (Vol. 1, pp. 207-208.) explains that there are 7 Earths, like islands, surrounded by oceans. Another commentator, Al Tirmidhi in his Hadith 5735, quotes one of Muhammad’s companions Abu Hurayrah as saying that Muhammad taught that there are another 6 Earths below ours with a distance of 500 years in between each. This will make sense in the Islamic viewpoint that there are 7 heavens stacked upon each other, with 7 Earths layered below these heavens.
65: 12. It is Allah who created seven skies (heavens) and of the earth the same number. The command descends through them, that you may know that Allah is mighty on everything. And that Allah may own all things in knowledge.
21. Lah does not know that Birds employs aerodynamics to fly, but He claims that it is Him who keeps birds up in the sky. (16:79) (67:19)
16: 79. Do they not see the birds hangs amid the sky? None holds them up except Allah. Indeed, in that are Signs for people who believe.
67: 19. Don’t they see the birds above them, spreading and folding their wings? Nothing holds them, except the Compassionate. Indeed, He is a seer of everything.
22. It is important to remember the claim of Lah, when He said that He made the seven skies and placed the Sun, Moon and Stars in the atmosphere. (41:12) This was how He misunderstood of what he heard about the Genesis account of creation. What Genesis says is that the Sun, Moon and Stars were created in the beginning, but their light, or illumination, started to shine into the Atmosphere on the fourth day, after the Sun reached its critical Nuclear fusion. The Bible does not say that God made the Sun, Moon and Stars on the fourth day. Lah and Muhammad’s misunderstanding is perhaps the most single piece of evidence that the Quran is nothing better than an incorrect hearsay of what Muhammad heard from the Jews and Christians when they read the Torah in their religious gatherings.
41: 12. Then He completed them as seven skies (heavens) in two days, and He revealed in each sky (heaven) its affair. And We decorated the sky of the earth with lamps to guard. That is the Decree of the dear the knowing.
23. Lah even declares that He placed the galaxies in the atmosphere together with the Sun and Moon. (25:61) Lah repeatedly confirms that the Sun, Moon, and Stars are in the nearest sky, the atmosphere.
• Lah boasts to show His power, when He tells us that He shoots the devils with shooting stars if they try to get into heaven. (67:5)
• Lah repeats that He placed the galaxies in the atmosphere and He protects the sky by shooting Satan and the devils with shooting stars from all sides when they want to steal some of the words of the Quran. These shooting stars follow the devils like guided missiles. (15:16-18)
• Lah elaborates and says that no man or devil will ever be able to pass the sky to enter the heaven. He will shoot them with a flame of fire and smoke. (55:33-35) It seems as if NASA has yet to confirm if they ever reached the Moon.
25: 61. Blessed is He Who has placed constellations in the sky and has placed therein a lamp and a shining moon.
67: 5. And certainly, We have decorated the nearest sky with lamps, and We made them as missiles for the devils, and We have prepared the punishment of the Blaze for them.
15: 16. And certainly, We have placed constellations in the sky, and We decorated it to the onlookers.
15: 17. And We have protected it from every stoned Shaytaan (pelted with stones).
15: 18. Except those who steals by hearing, then a shooting Star follows him.
55: 33. O assembly of the jinn and the men! If you can pass beyond the regions of the sky heaven and the earth, then pass. You cannot pass, except by authority.
55: 34. So which of the favours of your Lord will you both deny?
55: 35. A flame of fire and smoke will be sent against you and not you will not win.
24. Lah thinks ‘Paradise’ is as wide as the Earth and Atmosphere. This indicates an understanding that Earth and space are flat. (57:21) Flat Earth theory.
57: 21. Race to the forgiveness from your Lord, and a Garden, its width is like the width the sky and the earth, prepared for those who believe in Allah and His Messengers. That is the Bounty of Allah. He gives to whom He wills. And Allah is the Possessor of great bounty.
25. Lah is the one who throws lightning, just like the “Allah Zeus”, and He strikes people He don’t like with it. (13:12-13)
13: 12. It is He who shows you the fearing lightning, and a hope, and brings up the heavy clouds.
13: 13. And the thunder glorifies with its praise, and the Angels for fear of Him. And He sends the thunderbolts and strikes with it whom He wills, yet they dispute about Allah. And He is severe in Strength.
26. Lah thinks the Moon generates its own light, but we know that it is only reflecting the light coming from the Sun. (71:14-17), (10:5)
71: 14. And He created you in stages.
71: 15. Do you not see how Allah created the seven skies (heavens) in layers?
71: 16. And made the moon a light and made the sun a lamp therein.
71: 17. And Allah made you to grow from the earth (as) plants.
10: 5. It is He who made the sun a shining light and the moon a light and determined houses for it that you may know the number of the years and the count (of time). Allah did not create this except in truth. He explains the signs to people who understand.
27. He also claims that the Moon split in two pieces in the 7th century during Muhammad’s lifetime. Today we know this never happened. 54:1) Lah also gave a false prophecy because we all know the Last hour did not occur.
54: 1. The Hour Has come near and the moon has split.
28. Lah is unaware that Darkness is not a created entity, but it is merely the absence of light. (79:29)
• He claims He created darkness. (6:1) (21:33) (36:37)
• He also thinks the Night is a covering over the Earth. (78:10-11)
• He adds to His error by giving a detailed description on how the Night and Day is a ‘Covering” that covers the Earth. (39:5) (10:6) (7:54)
• Lah says it is He who causes the night and Day to enter each other. (22:61)
• Lah does not understand light at all, but thinks Day is a blanket of light, and Night a blanket of darkness which He throws over the Earth.
79: 29. And He darkened its night and brought out its light.
6: 1. Praise to Lah who created the sky and the earth and made the darkness (?) and the light. But those who made others equal with their Lord are infidels.
21: 33. And He created the night and the day and the sun and the moon, each swimming in the sky.
36: 37. And a Sign for them is the night, We withdraw it from the day. Then they are in darkness.
78: 10. And We made the night a covering.
78: 11. And We made the day for livelihood.
39: 5. He created the sky and the earth in truth. He wraps the night over the day and wraps the day over the night. And He subjected the sun and the moon, each running for a specified term. Surely, He is the dear, the forgiving.
10: 6. Indeed, in the alternation of the night and the day and what Allah created in the sky and the earth, are Signs to people who are God conscious.
7: 54. Indeed, your Lord is Allah, He who created the sky and the earth in six days, then He settled on the Throne. He covers the night with the day pursuing it rapidly, and the sun and the moon and the stars are subjected by His command. Surely for Him is the creation and the command. Blessed is Allah Lord of the worlds.
22: 61. That is because Allah causes the night to enter the day and causes the day to enter into the night. And indeed, Allah is hearing, a seer.
29. Lah claims there are two Easts and two Wests. He does not understand that the sunrises during the annual solstice’s has nothing to do with the position of East and West. (55:17)
55: 17. Lord of the two Easts and Lord of the two Wests.
30. Lah is totally ignorant about the movement of shade and does not understand that it is due to the Suns’ position relative of an object to the surface of the shade. He thinks that shadows prostrate to Him. (13:15, 16:48)
• He gives a very funny explanation that it is He who stretches out the shadows, He says He could have made shadows stationary, but He draws the shadows to Him. (25:45-46) a 3 year old knows more about his shadow than what Lah does.
13: 15. And whoever is in the sky and the earth prostrates to Lah, willingly or unwillingly, and so do their shadows in the mornings and in the afternoons.
16: 48. Have they not seen that Allah has created everything, their shadows lean towards to the right and to the left, prostrating to Allah while they are humble?
25: 45. Do you not see how your Lord; He extends the shadow? And if He willed, surely, He could have made it stationary. Then, We made the sun for it evidence.
25: 46. Then We draw it to Us, a gradual drawing.
31. Muhammad was scarred of Darkness but Allah saved him from it. (6:63-64)
6: 63. Say, "Who saves you from darkness of the land and the sea? You call Him humbly and secretly, 'If He saves us from this, surely we will be the grateful ones'."
6: 64. Say, "Allah saves you from it and from every distress, then you associate (partners with Allah)"
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Post #5I had some time and thought I can post some more stuff I read from the Quran
Admiral Allah created living animals called “Ships”!
Lah claims that he created Ships, and does not know it is something made by humans. (2:164)
• Lah continues with a description, that He created animals called ‘Ships’ on which we ride. (23:21-22) (43:12-14) (40:79-80)
• He is also the Commander of all ships. (45:12-13) (14:32) (30:46) (31:31)
2: 164. Indeed, in the creation of the sky and the earth, and alternation of the night and the day, and the ships which sail in the sea with what benefits the people, and what Allah has send down from the sky of water, thereby giving life to the earth after its death, and scattered therein of every moving creature, and directing of the winds and the clouds controlled between the sky and the earth; surely are Signs for a people who use their intellect.
23: 21. And indeed, for you is a lesson in the cattle. We give you drink from what is in their bellies, and in it are many benefits for you, and you eat of them.
23: 22. And on them and on ships you are carried.
43: 12. And it is he who created all in pairs for them, and made the ships and the cattle for you what you ride
43: 13. That you may sit firmly on their backs. Then remember the favour of your Lord when you sit firmly on them and say, "Glory be to him who subjected this to us and we were not capable of it (to subject them).
43: 14. And indeed, we will surely return to our Lord.
40: 79. It is Allah he who made the cattle for you that you may ride some of them, and some of them you eat.
40: 80. And therein are benefits for you, and that you may reach a need through them in your breasts, and upon them, and upon the ships you are carried.
45: 12. It is Allah who subjected the sea to you, that may sail the ships therein by His Command, and that you may seek of His Bounty, and that you may give thanks.
45: 13. And He has subjected to you whatever is in the sky (heaven) and whatever is in the earth, all from Him. Indeed, in that are Signs to a people who give thought.
14: 32. Allah created the sky and the earth, and sent down water from the sky, then brought forth from it of the fruits as a provision for you, and subjected the ships for you so that they may sail in the sea by His command and subjected the rivers for you.
30: 46. And among His Signs are, that He sends good news with the winds and to let you taste of His Mercy, and that the ships may sail at His Command, and that you may seek of His Bounty, and that you may be grateful.
31: 31. Do you not see that the ships sail through the sea by the Grace of Allah, that He may show you of His Signs? Indeed, in that are Signs for everyone who is patient, grateful.
Lah even captains ships Himself. (17:66)
• And, Lah is a “ship owner”. (55:24, 26) It seems as if Lah stood on the beaches of Arabia and saw these wonderful animals carrying people over the water. This is evidence that the knowledge of Allah originated from the mind of an Arab in the desert and not from an all knowing deity.
17: 66. It is your Lord who drives the ship in the sea for you that you may seek of His Bounty. Indeed, He is merciful to you.
55: 24. And for Him are the ships, elevated in the sea like mountains.
55: 26. Everyone who is on it will perish.
Admiral Allah created living animals called “Ships”!
Lah claims that he created Ships, and does not know it is something made by humans. (2:164)
• Lah continues with a description, that He created animals called ‘Ships’ on which we ride. (23:21-22) (43:12-14) (40:79-80)
• He is also the Commander of all ships. (45:12-13) (14:32) (30:46) (31:31)
2: 164. Indeed, in the creation of the sky and the earth, and alternation of the night and the day, and the ships which sail in the sea with what benefits the people, and what Allah has send down from the sky of water, thereby giving life to the earth after its death, and scattered therein of every moving creature, and directing of the winds and the clouds controlled between the sky and the earth; surely are Signs for a people who use their intellect.
23: 21. And indeed, for you is a lesson in the cattle. We give you drink from what is in their bellies, and in it are many benefits for you, and you eat of them.
23: 22. And on them and on ships you are carried.
43: 12. And it is he who created all in pairs for them, and made the ships and the cattle for you what you ride
43: 13. That you may sit firmly on their backs. Then remember the favour of your Lord when you sit firmly on them and say, "Glory be to him who subjected this to us and we were not capable of it (to subject them).
43: 14. And indeed, we will surely return to our Lord.
40: 79. It is Allah he who made the cattle for you that you may ride some of them, and some of them you eat.
40: 80. And therein are benefits for you, and that you may reach a need through them in your breasts, and upon them, and upon the ships you are carried.
45: 12. It is Allah who subjected the sea to you, that may sail the ships therein by His Command, and that you may seek of His Bounty, and that you may give thanks.
45: 13. And He has subjected to you whatever is in the sky (heaven) and whatever is in the earth, all from Him. Indeed, in that are Signs to a people who give thought.
14: 32. Allah created the sky and the earth, and sent down water from the sky, then brought forth from it of the fruits as a provision for you, and subjected the ships for you so that they may sail in the sea by His command and subjected the rivers for you.
30: 46. And among His Signs are, that He sends good news with the winds and to let you taste of His Mercy, and that the ships may sail at His Command, and that you may seek of His Bounty, and that you may be grateful.
31: 31. Do you not see that the ships sail through the sea by the Grace of Allah, that He may show you of His Signs? Indeed, in that are Signs for everyone who is patient, grateful.
Lah even captains ships Himself. (17:66)
• And, Lah is a “ship owner”. (55:24, 26) It seems as if Lah stood on the beaches of Arabia and saw these wonderful animals carrying people over the water. This is evidence that the knowledge of Allah originated from the mind of an Arab in the desert and not from an all knowing deity.
17: 66. It is your Lord who drives the ship in the sea for you that you may seek of His Bounty. Indeed, He is merciful to you.
55: 24. And for Him are the ships, elevated in the sea like mountains.
55: 26. Everyone who is on it will perish.
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