The Fall!

[POI]

Otseng stated "Yes, I believe the fall is a thing. As for why, it is out of scope for the current discussion, but can be addressed later."

Your wish has been granted.

For debate: Outside the claim being made from an ancient human writing, why is the assertion of 'the fall' a real thing?

[Mae von H]

[Replying to Mae von H in post #81]

I read a bit of the posts trying to explain an allegory application...

The posts are designed to be understood by personalities with average intelligence, even if the understanding is simply "getting the gist" and those personalities are free to engage further on any specific parts of the posts they require clarification on.

Importantly, the posts are designed to be fully read, in order that any engaging can be done between the poster and the interested reader. Reading "bits" of the posts won't achieve said engagement.

Re the posts mentioned (focused upon the actual thread subject no less)...

Exploring the Archetypal Dynamics of the Garden of Eden and its Surroundings

Exploring the Archetypal Dynamics of the Garden of Eden and its Surroundings 2

Exploring the Role of God in Creating Eve and Adam's Sense of Loneliness:

Exploring God's Role in Creating Eve and Adam's Loneliness: 2

Interpreting God and Adam's Interaction within the Internal Landscape:

First, you do not get to dictate how much anyone reads of your piece. If anything is written easy to understand, it does not need to be read in full in order to get what you are saying.

So I read and see from sampling where you came from and where you are going. It reminds me strongly of the type of things we wrote in creative writing in college. Please take this piece and write a story about each element. Use your imagination freely. You deserve an "A" for the creativity and imagination, I have to say. But that is all I can say. It is very creative but none of it holds water. The description of Creation in Genesis has lost all explanatory power in your presentation. I suspect we diverge too greatly.

[William]

[Replying to Mae von H in post #118]
[Replying to Mae von H in post #120]
[Replying to Mae von H in post #121]

I suspect we diverge too greatly.

Yep, we do.
For my part, I will continue with the topic at hand as shown through lens of the Jungian framework.

[Mae von H]

[Replying to Mae von H in post #118]
[Replying to Mae von H in post #120]
[Replying to Mae von H in post #121]

I suspect we diverge too greatly.

Yep, we do.
For my part, I will continue with the topic at hand as shown through lens of the Jungian framework.

Agreed. I will continue to walk with God asking to give me understanding so I can see matters through the Yeshuaian lens.

[Wootah]

[Replying to Clownboat in post #114]

So if I am dumb and my wife is dumb from another tribe. Is that in breeding when our kids are dumb?

No they are inheriting my sins.

[Mae von H]

[William]

[Replying to Mae von H in post #118]
[Replying to Mae von H in post #120]
[Replying to Mae von H in post #121]

I suspect we diverge too greatly.

Yep, we do.
For my part, I will continue with the topic at hand as shown through lens of the Jungian framework.

Agreed. I will continue to walk with God asking to give me understanding so I can see matters through the Yeshuaian lens.

Re that, it is interesting that this "Yeshuaian lens" is unable/unwilling - at least according to your own indoctrination - to integrate any other reference framework yet clearly the Jungian Archetype framework is able to easily integrate all world views including the "Judeao-Christian world view" you believe in.

As to your claim that you "walk with God"...(unsupported and thus speculative at best), I can agree that you are obviously influenced by an unspecified christian sect and perhaps conflate that with "walking with God" and there are certainly no shortage of conflicting christian sects claiming to be the favorite (and being judgmental about other ones) and claiming doing things the way God want things done, (aka "walking with God") so nothing particularly new or noteworthy therein.

Talking about "walking with God"
The Father and The Son

[William]

[Replying to Clownboat in post #114]

So if I am dumb and my wife is dumb from another tribe. Is that in breeding when our kids are dumb?

No they are inheriting my sins.

Are you saying that dumbness is a "sin"?

[Mae von H]

[Mae von H]

[William]