When I learned that the Bible speaks of a restored Garden of Eden and the restoration of mankind to the perfection and endless life that Adam forfeited, I was thrilled. Who doesn't want to keep living on this beautiful earth, with our loved ones, and being able to do all the things we love to do---endlessly?
If God said to you today, "When do you want to die?" would you say "now!!"? I don't think very many people would say that.
We CAN live forever here on Earth. The Bible tells us that we can.
Matthew 5:5
Psalm 37:9-11,29
Paradise on Earth
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Post #2931onewithhim wrote: ↑Fri Oct 06, 2023 12:57 pm Jesus Christ did not have a physical body when sitting down at the right hand of the Majesty in the heavens.
Then it wasn't Jesus because Jesus had a physical body.
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Post #2932The Bible clearly says that it was Jesus who sat down next to God in the heavens. (Acts 2:32,33; Hebrews 1:2,3, Heb. 8:1, Heb. 10:12, Heb. 12:2; Revelation 3:21)myth-one.com wrote: ↑Fri Oct 06, 2023 1:13 pmonewithhim wrote: ↑Fri Oct 06, 2023 12:57 pm Jesus Christ did not have a physical body when sitting down at the right hand of the Majesty in the heavens.
Then it wasn't Jesus because Jesus had a physical body.
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Post #2933No further comment, myth?onewithhim wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 11:08 amThe Bible clearly says that it was Jesus who sat down next to God in the heavens. (Acts 2:32,33; Hebrews 1:2,3, Heb. 8:1, Heb. 10:12, Heb. 12:2; Revelation 3:21)myth-one.com wrote: ↑Fri Oct 06, 2023 1:13 pmonewithhim wrote: ↑Fri Oct 06, 2023 12:57 pm Jesus Christ did not have a physical body when sitting down at the right hand of the Majesty in the heavens.
Then it wasn't Jesus because Jesus had a physical body.
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Post #2934onewithhim wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:45 amNo further comment, myth?onewithhim wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 11:08 amThe Bible clearly says that it was Jesus who sat down next to God in the heavens. (Acts 2:32,33; Hebrews 1:2,3, Heb. 8:1, Heb. 10:12, Heb. 12:2; Revelation 3:21)myth-one.com wrote: ↑Fri Oct 06, 2023 1:13 pmonewithhim wrote: ↑Fri Oct 06, 2023 12:57 pm Jesus Christ did not have a physical body when sitting down at the right hand of the Majesty in the heavens.
Then it wasn't Jesus because Jesus had a physical body.
That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit (God) is spirit.
Jesus' first birth was of flesh as a man born of Mary.
Jesus then became the only human ever to live a sinless life under the Old Testament Covenant.
He was crucified and resurrected as a man after about three days.
About forty days later He was seen being carried up to heaven.
But flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of Heaven.
Only spiritual bodied beings can inherit that kingdom.
So, Jesus had to be born again of the Spirit (God), as a spirit, prior to entering the Kingdom of God.
Is that what you're claiming?
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Post #2935What I am claiming is that Jesus was raised in a spirit body and went with his spirit body into heaven.myth-one.com wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 6:40 pmonewithhim wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:45 amNo further comment, myth?onewithhim wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 11:08 amThe Bible clearly says that it was Jesus who sat down next to God in the heavens. (Acts 2:32,33; Hebrews 1:2,3, Heb. 8:1, Heb. 10:12, Heb. 12:2; Revelation 3:21)myth-one.com wrote: ↑Fri Oct 06, 2023 1:13 pmonewithhim wrote: ↑Fri Oct 06, 2023 12:57 pm Jesus Christ did not have a physical body when sitting down at the right hand of the Majesty in the heavens.
Then it wasn't Jesus because Jesus had a physical body.
That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit (God) is spirit.
Jesus' first birth was of flesh as a man born of Mary.
Jesus then became the only human ever to live a sinless life under the Old Testament Covenant.
He was crucified and resurrected as a man after about three days.
About forty days later He was seen being carried up to heaven.
But flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of Heaven.
Only spiritual bodied beings can inherit that kingdom.
So, Jesus had to be born again of the Spirit (God), as a spirit, prior to entering the Kingdom of God.
Is that what you're claiming?
"Even Christ died once for all time concerning sins, a righteous person for unrighteous ones, that he might lead you to God, he being put to death in the flesh, but being made alive in the spirit." (I Peter 3:18)
"...If there is a physical body, there is also a spiritual one. It is even written: 'The first man Adam became a living soul.' The last Adam became a life-giving spirit." (I Corinthians 15:44,45)
It is this same Jesus who is at the Father's right hand in heaven, as I commented in a previous post.
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Post #2936onewithhim wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2023 2:21 pmWhat I am claiming is that Jesus was raised in a spirit body and went with his spirit body into heaven.myth-one.com wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 6:40 pmonewithhim wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:45 amNo further comment, myth?onewithhim wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 11:08 amThe Bible clearly says that it was Jesus who sat down next to God in the heavens. (Acts 2:32,33; Hebrews 1:2,3, Heb. 8:1, Heb. 10:12, Heb. 12:2; Revelation 3:21)myth-one.com wrote: ↑Fri Oct 06, 2023 1:13 pmonewithhim wrote: ↑Fri Oct 06, 2023 12:57 pm Jesus Christ did not have a physical body when sitting down at the right hand of the Majesty in the heavens.
Then it wasn't Jesus because Jesus had a physical body.
That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit (God) is spirit.
Jesus' first birth was of flesh as a man born of Mary.
Jesus then became the only human ever to live a sinless life under the Old Testament Covenant.
He was crucified and resurrected as a man after about three days.
About forty days later He was seen being carried up to heaven.
But flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of Heaven.
Only spiritual bodied beings can inherit that kingdom.
So, Jesus had to be born again of the Spirit (God), as a spirit, prior to entering the Kingdom of God.
Is that what you're claiming?
"Even Christ died once for all time concerning sins, a righteous person for unrighteous ones, that he might lead you to God, he being put to death in the flesh, but being made alive in the spirit." (I Peter 3:18)
"...If there is a physical body, there is also a spiritual one. It is even written: 'The first man Adam became a living soul.' The last Adam became a life-giving spirit." (I Corinthians 15:44,45)
It is this same Jesus who is at the Father's right hand in heaven, as I commented in a previous post.

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Post #2937.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 11:42 amonewithhim wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2023 2:21 pmWhat I am claiming is that Jesus was raised in a spirit body and went with his spirit body into heaven.myth-one.com wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 6:40 pmonewithhim wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:45 amNo further comment, myth?onewithhim wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 11:08 amThe Bible clearly says that it was Jesus who sat down next to God in the heavens. (Acts 2:32,33; Hebrews 1:2,3, Heb. 8:1, Heb. 10:12, Heb. 12:2; Revelation 3:21)myth-one.com wrote: ↑Fri Oct 06, 2023 1:13 pmonewithhim wrote: ↑Fri Oct 06, 2023 12:57 pm Jesus Christ did not have a physical body when sitting down at the right hand of the Majesty in the heavens.
Then it wasn't Jesus because Jesus had a physical body.
That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit (God) is spirit.
Jesus' first birth was of flesh as a man born of Mary.
Jesus then became the only human ever to live a sinless life under the Old Testament Covenant.
He was crucified and resurrected as a man after about three days.
About forty days later He was seen being carried up to heaven.
But flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of Heaven.
Only spiritual bodied beings can inherit that kingdom.
So, Jesus had to be born again of the Spirit (God), as a spirit, prior to entering the Kingdom of God.
Is that what you're claiming?
"Even Christ died once for all time concerning sins, a righteous person for unrighteous ones, that he might lead you to God, he being put to death in the flesh, but being made alive in the spirit." (I Peter 3:18)
"...If there is a physical body, there is also a spiritual one. It is even written: 'The first man Adam became a living soul.' The last Adam became a life-giving spirit." (I Corinthians 15:44,45)
It is this same Jesus who is at the Father's right hand in heaven, as I commented in a previous post.![]()
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Post #2938onewithhim wrote: ↑Fri Nov 10, 2023 11:27 am
It is this same Jesus who is at the Father's right hand in heaven, as I commented in a previous post.
The Word and Jesus Christ are two beings described in the scriptures.
How are they different?
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Post #2939They are not different. Scripture says that the Word became flesh and dwelt among us....that was Jesus Christ.myth-one.com wrote: ↑Fri Nov 10, 2023 12:05 pmonewithhim wrote: ↑Fri Nov 10, 2023 11:27 am
It is this same Jesus who is at the Father's right hand in heaven, as I commented in a previous post.
The Word and Jesus Christ are two beings described in the scriptures.
How are they different?
"The Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we saw his glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth." (John 1:14, NASB)
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Post #2940God says they are different.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 3:21 pmThey are not different.myth-one.com wrote: ↑Fri Nov 10, 2023 12:05 pmonewithhim wrote: ↑Fri Nov 10, 2023 11:27 am
It is this same Jesus who is at the Father's right hand in heaven, as I commented in a previous post.
The Word and Jesus Christ are two beings described in the scriptures.
How are they different?
The Word is God:
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. (John 1:1)
Jesus Christ was made to be "a little lower than the angels," exactly as man was created!
But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honor; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man. (Hebrews 2:9)
What is man, that thou art mindful of him? ...For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, (Psalm 8:4-5)
We are even given the one, and only one, reason that Jesus was made lower than the angels for His thirty-three years on earth. He could not die as a spirit! He was made lower than the angels "for the suffering of death."
There is one God, and one man Jesus is the mediator between God and man:
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; (1 Timothy 2:5)
It had to be this way so that the fault in the original covenant between God and the Israelites could be fixed!