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What is the name above all names?

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Philippians 2:9 Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, 10 so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father
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What is the name above all names?
Proverbs 18:17 The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.

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YHWH is the name of Almighty God as revealed in the Hebrew scriptures, the one God who created all things. This included the Word who became Jesus Christ, and it included The Spirit of God. Scripture testifies to this beyond doubt.

Jehovah's Witnesses on this forum attempt to deliberately confuse Christians that only the Father had this name, position, title and role by stating such things as 'Jehovah is the Fathers personal name.' It is deception.
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Ross wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 1:45 pm YHWH is the name of Almighty God as revealed in the Hebrew scriptures, the one God who created all things. This included the Word who became Jesus Christ, and it included The Spirit of God. Scripture testifies to this beyond doubt.

Jehovah's Witnesses on this forum attempt to deliberately confuse Christians that only the Father had this name, position, title and role by stating such things as 'Jehovah is the Fathers personal name.' It is deception.
How can this be deception? The Bible states what the Father's personal name is. Psalm 83:18, KJV states that JEHOVAH is His name. Did you bother to read my posts (24 and 28) on the previous page? Why would you disagree with that? I would love to have an explanation, if you would be so kind.

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[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #30]

Deuteronomy 6:4 is telling you God is one because when you look in the scripture you don't want to accidentally separate God into all his parts like a butcher and a cow.
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onewithhim wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 6:07 pm
Ross wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 1:45 pm YHWH is the name of Almighty God as revealed in the Hebrew scriptures, the one God who created all things. This included the Word who became Jesus Christ, and it included The Spirit of God. Scripture testifies to this beyond doubt.

Jehovah's Witnesses on this forum attempt to deliberately confuse Christians that only the Father had this name, position, title and role by stating such things as 'Jehovah is the Fathers personal name.' It is deception.
How can this be deception? The Bible states what the Father's personal name is. Psalm 83:18, KJV states that JEHOVAH is His name. Did you bother to read my posts (24 and 28) on the previous page? Why would you disagree with that? I would love to have an explanation, if you would be so kind.
I did in my last post.
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Wootah wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 9:30 pm [Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #30]

Deuteronomy 6:4 is telling you God is one because when you look in the scripture you don't want to accidentally separate God into all his parts like a butcher and a cow.
Firstly the scripture doesnt say "God is one" the scripture says ONE JEHOVAH. Further Deuteronomy 6:4 is not just telling me, its telling EVERYONE.
DEUTERONOMY 6:4

Listen, O Israel: Jehovah our God is ONE Jehovah.
If you can find a revision that says the words " Jehovah your God is TWO " (or for the trinitarians "Jehovah your God is THREE" ) ... then I may be prepared to accept your human interpretation but as long as the bible states Jehovah is one , any suggestion that two individuals (Jesus the Son and the Father are both SHARE THE NAME Jehovah ), both share the same name stands in direct contradiction to scripture .

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Peace to you,
Wootah wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 9:30 pm [Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #30]

Deuteronomy 6:4 is telling you God is one because when you look in the scripture you don't want to accidentally separate God into all his parts like a butcher and a cow.
You mean like how the trinity separates God into three parts?

Sometimes I don't know how people can say something without seeing how obviously it applies to what they, themselves, have accepted.

God is One. One God. Not one in three. Not three in one. One.


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As for the name that is above all names:

When Paul is speaking of Christ (though "Jesus" is not the name of Christ anymore than "Jehovah" is the name of God), Paul cannot be saying that Christ has a name above His own Father. To be consistent, all who are pushing this idea then must claim that the name "Jesus" is above the name "Jehovah". But you don't seem to be claiming that. You seem to be claiming that these two names are equal. But the name "Jesus" is not the same name as "Jehovah" (even though neither of those names is true). You cannot correctly use them interchangeably.

My Lord's name is Jaheshua (meaning JAH saves/savior of JAH). He has the name of His Father (JAH) in His name. And no, just because my Lord had the name of His Father in His name does not mean that He is God. Ezekiel means "strength of God", but that does not mean that Ezekiel is God. Prophets also came in the name of God and had either the name of God (often written in English with an 'iah') or the title of God (el) in their names.

The name given to my Lord is higher than every name (other than the name of God). The same as saying that every person will kneel before Christ, understanding that this means every person other than God, the Father.


God = the Father, and He has a name (JAH) that everyone can see in the phrase Hallelu- JAH (praise JAH).
Christ = the Son, and He has a name (Jah'eshua), meaning "JAH saves/savior of JAH".


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If Almighty God who was known in the Masoretic Text as YHWH (and not 'Jehovah') sent part of himself to earth to be born as a man to redeem mankind in the greatest act of undeserved kindness imaginable, and also revealed his identity more thoroughly in ways previously not understood; this would explain completely the absolute absence of the Holy Name in the Christian Greek Scriptures. Because the invisible God in Heaven was not the complete YHWH when The Son, The Word of God was on earth. Thus the revelation of The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit.

The great God of The Bible in saving condemned mankind with an act of incomprehensible love made the name of Jesus even greater than the name YHWH.
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Ross wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 12:57 pm If Almighty God who was known in the Masoretic Text as YHWH (and not 'Jehovah') sent part of himself to earth to be born as a man to redeem mankind in the greatest act of undeserved kindness imaginable, and also revealed his identity more thoroughly in ways previously not understood; this would explain completely the absolute absence of the Holy Name in the Christian Greek Scriptures. Because the invisible God in Heaven was not the complete YHWH when The Son, The Word of God was on earth. Thus the revelation of The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit.

The great God of The Bible in saving condemned mankind with an act of incomprehensible love made the name of Jesus even greater than the name YHWH.
The invisible God's name was in the N.T. until around the second century when men removed it altogether and substituted "Lord" for YHWH. Men couldn't very well expunge entirely God's name from the O.T. because the Jews keep "YHWH" in their Bibles in all 7,000 places it appears as the Tetragrammaton (Yohd Heh Waw Heh). Some men tried to get God's name out of the Bible entirely, but thankfully many versions of the Bible keep it in, including the KJV which allows it to appear in 4 places, one of which is Psalm 83:18. Other versions are Young's Literal Translation; The Living Bible; American Standard; The Interlinear Bible/ Hendrickson; New Jerusalem Bible; The Divine Name King James Bible; J.N. Darby translation....and more.

The name of Jesus could never be higher than the Father's name. It is the Father who GAVE Jesus the highest name (from among mankind and of course the angels). The Father, who Jesus identified as "the only true God" (John 17:3) always deserves a name above all others. (Tam had some good comments on that.)

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onewithhim wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 1:54 pm
The invisible God's name was in the N.T. until around the second century when men removed it altogether and substituted "Lord" for YHWH.
It would appear that you are getting a little confused in your history lesson
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The great God of The Bible in saving condemned mankind with an act of incomprehensible love made the name of Jesus even greater than the name YHWH.
Out of the eater came something to eat,
And out of the strong came something sweet.

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