Wootah wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 9:02 pm
boatsnguitars wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 10:39 am
Wootah wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 11:17 pm
I don't think love exists outside of Christian God. How do you know love exists within your ideology.
The atheist evolutionary part of me understands homosexuality even less. Imagine billions of years of your ancestors surviving and reproducing and then dishonouring them by being homosexual.
Classic. Wow, your pastors have really messed with your head!
Luckily, the world doesn't have to conform to what you think. Think all you want, you're just wrong. Sadly wrong, and I really mean that. It's a shame people like you exist.
But, I certainly note the homophobia you felt you had to express as a parting shot.
Try to use the forum to debate. I am expressing my earnest opinion so as to have a debate.
Your time. Your choice.
Firstly, it is important to recognize that love is a universal human experience that is not limited to any particular religion or belief system. Love can be found in many forms, including romantic, familial, and platonic, and is expressed and experienced by people of all faiths and cultures.
Moreover, it is not accurate to say that love exists only within the Christian God. Many religious traditions, such as Hinduism, Buddhism, and Islam, have their own concepts of love and compassion. Additionally, people who do not adhere to any particular religion can experience and express love in meaningful ways.
Regarding the statement about homosexuality, it is not accurate to view it as a dishonoring of one's ancestors. Homosexuality has been observed in many animal species, and it is likely that it has existed in human societies throughout history. Moreover, science has shown that sexual orientation is not a choice and is influenced by a complex interplay of genetic, hormonal, and environmental factors.
It is important to approach discussions about love and sexuality with an open mind and to recognize the diversity of human experiences and perspectives.
Considering homosexuality a sin or a mental illness is bigotry because it involves discriminating against and stigmatizing an entire group of people based on their sexual orientation. It implies that there is something inherently wrong or abnormal about being attracted to the same gender, which is not supported by scientific evidence.
Furthermore, labeling homosexuality as a sin or mental illness can lead to harmful consequences for LGBTQ+ individuals, such as social exclusion, discrimination, and even violence. It can also prevent them from seeking help or support for their mental health needs or engaging in healthy and consensual relationships.
It is important to recognize and challenge such beliefs and attitudes in order to create a more inclusive and accepting society for all individuals, regardless of their sexual orientation.
Christianity has played a significant role in the historical and contemporary discrimination and stigmatization of homosexuality. Many Christians interpret the Bible as condemning homosexuality, which has led to a widespread belief that homosexuality is a sin. This belief has been used to justify discrimination, harassment, and violence against the LGBTQ+ community.
Throughout history, Christian institutions and leaders have actively opposed LGBTQ+ rights and promoted harmful conversion therapies, which seek to change a person's sexual orientation or gender identity. Even today, some Christian leaders continue to spread harmful rhetoric and misinformation about homosexuality, which contributes to a hostile and unwelcoming environment for LGBTQ+ individuals in many Christian communities.
It's important to note that not all Christians believe that homosexuality is a sin or that LGBTQ+ individuals should be discriminated against. Many progressive Christian denominations and individual believers advocate for LGBTQ+ rights and inclusion. However, the influence of conservative Christian beliefs and institutions has had a significant impact on the treatment of the LGBTQ+ community in many societies.
People who practice bigotry are bigots. Not my opinion, it's the definition.
You seem to be arguing:
1. Christianity teaches homosexuality is a sin and an abomination.
2. I harbor bigoted feelings toward the LGBTQ+ community because I am a Christian.
Therefore, Christianity is homophobic, but I will say the opposite.
I want to point out the part in bold. That is the group Homophobes have joined. Homophobes are "in bed" with Ugandan's who have passed a law that will make it legal to kill gay people. Homophobes are "in bed" with the thousands of people each year who attack and kill gay people. Homophobes are "in bed" with the millions of people who discriminate against the millions of gay people around the world, causing them irreparable harm in a myriad of ways.
Since you offered your personal opinion on gay people, I will offer mine on Homophobes: I think homophobic bigots are horrible human beings, mentally ill, sinful, should be ashamed of themselves, and I would not shed a millisecond of remorse if they were burned at the stake.