Atheistic Foundation of Objective Morality
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Atheistic Foundation of Objective Morality
Post #1So, this would be a question to those who believe that objective morality can be founded upon an atheistic worldview. What is the objective foundation?
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Re: Atheistic Foundation of Objective Morality
Post #321It depends on how upset one gets to learn it.Purple Knight wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 12:38 amI would call that a moral statement that's non-subjective. Am I wrong?
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Re: Atheistic Foundation of Objective Morality
Post #322AgnosticBoy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:57 pmAn amoral Universe is an alternative to an objective moral system that views morality like a law of nature. I presume that is how objective morals would exist.
I think another alternative is that morality is a feature of certain beings and not others, where humans could have moral duties, but, say, a lion wouldn’t.
AgnosticBoy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:57 pmThere are a lot of content and steps that need to be logically accounted for there, and I've yet to see anything that doesn't boil down to sociocultural conditioning.
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Re: Atheistic Foundation of Objective Morality
Post #323I might be getting you wrong here but what I get from that is that someone who gets very upset to learn morality is relative is still a zealot, and once he comes around he'll be using "morality is subjective" to beat people over the head who think it's not subjective. And that's what you don't want out of morality being subjective: People using morality to browbeat.JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 4:02 amIt depends on how upset one gets to learn it.Purple Knight wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 12:38 amI would call that a moral statement that's non-subjective. Am I wrong?
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Re: Atheistic Foundation of Objective Morality
Post #324IMOThe Tanager wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:35 pm So, this would be a question to those who believe that objective morality can be founded upon an atheistic worldview. What is the objective foundation?
Morals are like Math. Both were discovered rather than invented.
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Re: Atheistic Foundation of Objective Morality
Post #325The browbeaters, like life, will find a way. Morality's only one excuse.Purple Knight wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 1:10 pmI might be getting you wrong here but what I get from that is that someone who gets very upset to learn morality is relative is still a zealot, and once he comes around he'll be using "morality is subjective" to beat people over the head who think it's not subjective. And that's what you don't want out of morality being subjective: People using morality to browbeat.JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 4:02 amIt depends on how upset one gets to learn it.Purple Knight wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 12:38 amI would call that a moral statement that's non-subjective. Am I wrong?
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Re: Atheistic Foundation of Objective Morality
Post #326I've always found morality to be the only excuse. Otherwise they have to justify it with logic.JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 3:21 pm The browbeaters, like life, will find a way. Morality's only one excuse.
I find politeness to be a form of morality. Saying everything is rude and using that against people isn't much different than saying everything is immoral.