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[Zzyzx]

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"Are you suggesting that "god" is NOT willing to forgive if a person repeats the same 'sin' too often?"

Yes I think so since repeating the sin too often suggests no real repentance in the first place. Like times I have told God I'm sorry for looking at naked women on the Internet then turn around and do it again, over and over. I'm not really sorry, I'm just saying sorry to use like a lucky charm against punishment.

The implication by Grand Pbuh is that looking at nude photographs is "sinful" and requires "repentance" and "forgiveness".

Questions for debate:

1. Do you agree or disagree or offer a different answer? Explain your reasoning.

2. Under what conditions is looking at nude photos "sinful" (or evil, or undesirable)?

3. What biblical instruction prohibits looking at photos?

4. Is it also "sinful" for a religious person to look at unclothed people in person?

5. Is it "wrong" (or "sinful") for a non-religious person to look at nude people or photos? Who makes that determination?

6. Is it more "sinful" to look at photos than to look at actual unclothed people or vice versa?

7. Must one stop looking at nude photos or people completely in order to be "forgiven"?

8. Is this issue an example of human behavior or nature being condemned by religion?

[Beto]

If you are a guy pleasuring yourself, are you pleasuring a guy? Simple question.

No, you're a guy/girl pleasuring him/herself. Human language is more sophisticated than you seem to give credit for. It evolved enough to eliminate ambiguities.

[FinalEnigma]

I have a question. Does the bible condemn 'pleasuring' someone of the same gender? or just sex between two people of the same gender?

[Grand Pbuh]

If you are a guy pleasuring yourself, are you pleasuring a guy? Simple question.

No, you're a guy/girl pleasuring him/herself. Human language is more sophisticated than you seem to give credit for. It evolved enough to eliminate ambiguities.

If you are pleasuring yourself you are either pleasuring a man or a woman, if it is the same sex it is homosexual. Are you somehow pleasuring a different sex than yourself when you are pleasuring yourself?

The only confusion is your denial of this simple fact. Like a fat man denies that eating too much is what makes him fat, because he loves eating so much and doesn't want to give it up.

[Grand Pbuh]

I have a question. Does the bible condemn 'pleasuring' someone of the same gender? or just sex between two people of the same gender?

Jesus says that lust in the heart is same as adultery, so everything in between. If you even fantasize about sex with the same sex to get pleasure you are being gay, nevermind actually pleasuring yourself who is of the same sex.

[Fallibleone]

And you're really sunk if you're a masturbating hermaphrodite. Or are you? All I know is I'm awfully glad I don't have to follow this stuff in my life.

[FinalEnigma]

I have a question. Does the bible condemn 'pleasuring' someone of the same gender? or just sex between two people of the same gender?

Jesus says that lust in the heart is same as adultery, so everything in between. If you even fantasize about sex with the same sex to get pleasure you are being gay, nevermind actually pleasuring yourself who is of the same sex.

Even if you are deriving excitement from it by imaging it as, and mentally linking it to, actual sex with the opposite gender?

and what if you are pleasuring someone of the same gender, but not deriving pleasure from it? are you still gay? in this instance you wouldn't be lusting. Jesus did not say that everything in between lust and adultery is adultery and there isnt anything between them to begin with. lust is mental adultery(in that case) adultery is physical adultery. pleasuring someone of the same gender isn't physically homosexual sex, and it isn't mentally homosexual sex either.

[Dragon]

If you are pleasuring yourself you are either pleasuring a man or a woman, if it is the same sex it is homosexual.

Utter nonsense - and such bizarre views make it next to impossible to take seriously anything else you have to say about religion.

[Grand Pbuh]

If you are pleasuring yourself you are either pleasuring a man or a woman, if it is the same sex it is homosexual.

Utter nonsense - and such bizarre views make it next to impossible to take seriously anything else you have to say about religion.

Denial. Enough said about people who want to justify homosexuality just because it feels good.

[Grand Pbuh]

Jesus did not say that everything in between lust and adultery is adultery..

Jesus pretty much said experts in the Law who try to find loopholes to wiggle through the Law are scum.

[JoeyKnothead]

Jesus did not say that everything in between lust and adultery is adultery..

Jesus pretty much said experts in the Law who try to find loopholes to wiggle through the Law are scum.

Yet another attack under the guise of religion to divert attention away from the original assertion. This poster seems quite adept at dodging debate by trying to sneak insults and slander through under cover of his religion.