Did he or didn't he?

[Athetotheist]

And when Saul enquired of the Lord, the Lord answered him not, neither by dreams, nor by Urim, nor by prophets. Then said Saul unto his servants, Seek me a woman that hath a familiar spirit, that I may go to her, and enquire of her.
(1 Samuel 28:6-7)

So Saul died for his transgression which he committed against the Lord, even against the word of the Lord, which he kept not, and also for asking counsel of one that had a familiar spirit, to enquire of it; and enquired not of the Lord
(1Chronicles 10:13-14)

How exactly are these to be reconciled?

[Athetotheist]

[Replying to OneJack in post #55]

You asked how the ghost could be Samuel. I provided textual evidence that the ghost was supposed to be Samuel.

This looks to me now as if you were begging the bible to be the Almighty God, don’t you? The Almighty God alone can truly identify ghosts of any kind, not anyone and anything else.

You seem oddly dismissive of the Bible----

Except for the direct utterances of God and Jesus.

"I will worship toward Thy holy temple, and praise Thy name for Thy lovingkindness and for Thy truth, for Thou hast magnified Thy word above all Thy name.
(Psalms 138:2)

What does KD tells Athotetheist in this verse, btw?????

"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:"
(2 Timothy 316)[

Jesus says otherwise, to wit:

You study[a] the Scriptures diligently because you think that in them you have eternal life. These are the very Scriptures that testify about me, yet you refuse to come to me to have life.

Are those just texts you dismiss?

I can replace them with these texts from Jesus, and He said:

“Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. 2Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.”

Then you do place stock in biblical text, and not just in what you believe you've been told directly.

[OneJack]

[Replying to OneJack in post #55]

You asked how the ghost could be Samuel. I provided textual evidence that the ghost was supposed to be Samuel.

This looks to me now as if you were begging the bible to be the Almighty God, don’t you? The Almighty God alone can truly identify ghosts of any kind, not anyone and anything else.

You seem oddly dismissive of the Bible----

Except for the direct utterances of God and Jesus.

"I will worship toward Thy holy temple, and praise Thy name for Thy lovingkindness and for Thy truth, for Thou hast magnified Thy word above all Thy name.
(Psalms 138:2)

What does KD tells Athotetheist in this verse, btw?????

"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:"
(2 Timothy 316)[

Jesus says otherwise, to wit:

You study[a] the Scriptures diligently because you think that in them you have eternal life. These are the very Scriptures that testify about me, yet you refuse to come to me to have life.

Are those just texts you dismiss?

I can replace them with these texts from Jesus, and He said:

“Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. 2Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.”

Then you do place stock in biblical text, and not just in what you believe you've been told directly.

I put into practice the latter, while the one I added in conversing with people in every forum is the former.

[OneJack]

[Replying to OneJack in post #57]

Does biblical text have no rules against accusing someone of not inquiring [Chronicles] after establishing that he did inquire [1 Samuel]?

The rule comes only from God if we want the truth, and that’s ALWAYS!

If nothing comes from the Bible, what's the point of having it?

The one and only point is for you to know there is God so that you may come to God for the truth, which the bible cannot, in any manner, give to you.

[Athetotheist]

[Replying to OneJack in post #63]

If nothing comes from the Bible, what's the point of having it?

The one and only point is for you to know there is God so that you may come to God for the truth, which the bible cannot, in any manner, give to you.

So the Bible doesn't tell you which god there is?

[OneJack]

[Replying to OneJack in post #63]

If nothing comes from the Bible, what's the point of having it?

The one and only point is for you to know there is God so that you may come to God for the truth, which the bible cannot, in any manner, give to you.

So the Bible doesn't tell you which god there is?

Does it? I don’t think so. Look at the religious world around the globe, does the bible tell them the truth about God?

[Athetotheist]

[Replying to OneJack in post #65]

So the Bible doesn't tell you which god there is?

Does it? I don’t think so. Look at the religious world around the globe, does the bible tell them the truth about God?

If the Bible doesn't tell us which god there is, why should the religious world around the globe be concerned with Jesus?

[OneJack]

[Replying to OneJack in post #65]

So the Bible doesn't tell you which god there is?

Does it? I don’t think so. Look at the religious world around the globe, does the bible tell them the truth about God?

If the Bible doesn't tell us which god there is, why should the religious world around the globe be concerned with Jesus?

What kind of concern do they have with Jesus, lip service? How could they be concerned with Jesus when He is not the Pastor and Teacher in their respective so-called local churches? Do they know Jesus truly in that regard? They fear the bible more than they fear the real and forever living Christ Jesus.

[Athetotheist]

[Replying to OneJack in post #67]

What kind of concern do they have with Jesus, lip service? How could they be concerned with Jesus when He is not the Pastor and Teacher in their respective so-called local churches? Do they know Jesus truly in that regard? They fear the bible more than they fear the real and forever living Christ Jesus.

If you believe that Jesus has spoken directly to you, how can you know with certainty that Jesus hasn't spoken directly to them?

[OneJack]

[Replying to OneJack in post #67]

What kind of concern do they have with Jesus, lip service? How could they be concerned with Jesus when He is not the Pastor and Teacher in their respective so-called local churches? Do they know Jesus truly in that regard? They fear the bible more than they fear the real and forever living Christ Jesus.

If you believe that Jesus has spoken directly to you, how can you know with certainty that Jesus hasn't spoken directly to them?

As long as they remain in denominational churches, where the leaders are men/women pastors, they are not in the flock of the Lord; how can the Lord shepherd them that way?

[Athetotheist]

[Replying to OneJack in post #69]

If you believe that Jesus has spoken directly to you, how can you know with certainty that Jesus hasn't spoken directly to them?

As long as they remain in denominational churches, where the leaders are men/women pastors, they are not in the flock of the Lord; how can the Lord shepherd them that way?

What, in your opinion, do they have to do?